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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:25 AM Nov 2019

Whoever wins for us

Complimentary VPs ? Do Warren and Sanders need a more conservative non-New England VP?

Biden fans, does he need a younger, optimistic type like Beto...

What kind of VP does each need?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Whoever wins for us (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 OP
I would vote for a dog or even a snake. trixie2 Nov 2019 #1
So you would crawl on broken glass with a million Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #2
Me too. Even if I was dying I'd hang on until after I cast my ballot against Trump. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #6
Absolutely! trixie2 Nov 2019 #25
Same here, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2019 #3
I would put Warren with Biden. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #4
Biden/Warren pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #18
I think Joe Biden will want someone who will be his "Joe Biden." The Valley Below Nov 2019 #5
I think Biden needs a candidate that can excite Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #14
How about Biden with Stacey Abrams? nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #7
I don't see it. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #10
You make a good point...due to his age, people will Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #19
Works for me Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #21
For Biden? peggysue2 Nov 2019 #8
I like Abrams a lot more than Harris. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #9
I like Abrams, too. peggysue2 Nov 2019 #11
Nobody has mentioned Warren stopdiggin Nov 2019 #12
It's a hard one ? She's so bigger than life. I know Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #16
Buttigieg, Warren, Sanders all need PoC help, and a PoC VP is how they can dent Biden there. NCLefty Nov 2019 #13
Guess it depends on how powerful the desire is of all Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #17
They can't be complementary. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #20
Isn't that the definition of complementary? Yin Yang? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #22
Whoever wins the nomination pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #23
Good points. Why I like mini-warren. Katie Porter. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #24
No. They do not have to. They should pick someone for loyalty and who can back their policies, but emmaverybo Nov 2019 #27
WOC, preferably AA. Needs to represent! and yes younger than he is. But someone emmaverybo Nov 2019 #26
Stacey Abrams mahina Nov 2019 #28
BIden's natural choice would be Harris and if I would was him I wouldapproach the beachbumbob Nov 2019 #29
 

trixie2

(905 posts)
1. I would vote for a dog or even a snake.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:33 AM
Nov 2019

Of the real zoological kind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. So you would crawl on broken glass with a million
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:43 AM
Nov 2019

Mosquito bites, in a snow blizzard, with a yeast infection, fever, a thousand paper cuts, two excruciating ear aches to vote against trump?

Me 2

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
6. Me too. Even if I was dying I'd hang on until after I cast my ballot against Trump.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:01 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FoxNewsSucks

(10,423 posts)
3. Same here,
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:52 AM
Nov 2019

but I'm so damn sick of my anti-republicon vote being taken for granted by corporate-ass-kissing, wall-street-lackey, "moderate" democrats.

We need real change. Someone who champions workers and regular average Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
4. I would put Warren with Biden. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:56 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
18. Biden/Warren
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019

I think to do anything else, with Warren and Sanders having a combined polling total higher than Biden's, will spell decreased voter turnout in the general from progressives and young people.

Biden isn't managing to get over 30% in polls. A LOT of people like the progressive agenda, too. Why not split the ticket, have him do his health care plan, foreign policy, but put Warren in charge of the things she's great at, like her plans to go after billionaires, to get free college and eliminate student debt, free child care, and so much more. As a TEAM, they would be unstoppable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
5. I think Joe Biden will want someone who will be his "Joe Biden."
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:58 AM
Nov 2019

Not to say a clone of himself, but someone who will have his back the way he had Barack Obama's back.

And someone who can help move legislation through Congress they way he did. And someone he trusts on foreign policy matters.

Early in the race I thought that might be Cory Booker. Now? I'm thinking Sen. Klobuchar is mostly likely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. I think Biden needs a candidate that can excite
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:07 AM
Nov 2019

the youth and progressives in our party. If he wins it would complete a whole. Experience, dignity and wisdom matched with youth and optimism.

Someone running now who could never manage to garner more than 1-2% of the vote with no upward trajectory doesn't seem to scream excitement at all in my mind.

In fact, we may be at the point where people who have recognized they weren't catching on or that this wasn't the right time are looking more attractive because they recognized that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
7. How about Biden with Stacey Abrams? nt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:05 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
10. I don't see it.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:18 AM
Nov 2019

I don't see how Abrams would be of particular service in getting legislation through Congress.

I don't see that she has the sort of foreign policy experience that I believe Biden will require from a VP.

And I'm unaware of any strong personal relationship that makes him believe Stacey Abrams will have his back.

As I said before, I think these will be key considerations for Biden when he selects a VP.

Bill

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. You make a good point...due to his age, people will
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:08 AM
Nov 2019

Look at his VP to have the same skills he has

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #7)

 

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
8. For Biden?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:22 AM
Nov 2019

I think a woman is called for and a woman of color would be ideal. My dream ticket has always been Biden/Harris. Biden/Abrams would certainly work. In fact, just today there was an editorial indicating Abrams would be open to a VP slot. A bit of signaling there? Maybe.

Plenty of good selections out there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
9. I like Abrams a lot more than Harris. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:25 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
11. I like Abrams, too.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:51 AM
Nov 2019

I honestly thought she wasn't interested in the VP slot, more interested in an executive position, but the article I read this morning opened the door to the possibility. She's wildly popular and with good reason. She'd be an excellent selection and excite a lot of voters.

So . . . we shall see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
12. Nobody has mentioned Warren
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:47 AM
Nov 2019

She's got skills, she's got moxie, she's got gravitas ...- Who adds something to her ticket? Military? Insider male? Rust Belt or midwestern governor? Has to be establishment, right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. It's a hard one ? She's so bigger than life. I know
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:15 AM
Nov 2019

A lot of fiscal conservative socially liberal types who would never vote for her because they are scared of big discretionary spending. Maybe someone to mitigate that? But then the person wouldn't match. That's a dilemma that a more moderate candidate doesn't have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
13. Buttigieg, Warren, Sanders all need PoC help, and a PoC VP is how they can dent Biden there.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:41 AM
Nov 2019

That's just simple Democratic demographics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Guess it depends on how powerful the desire is of all
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:23 AM
Nov 2019

Dems to put personal preference on hold and vote out the monster.

Last poll I saw was many months ago and we were split 50-50. If trump skates through Impeachment I see that changing more toward who does best in matchups with Dingbat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
20. They can't be complementary.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

If a moderate candidate wins the nomination, they will have to pick a progressive running mate. If a progressive wins the nomination, they will have to pick a moderate running mate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Isn't that the definition of complementary? Yin Yang?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:00 AM
Nov 2019

How could EW pick someone who is against a wealth tax of MFA?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
23. Whoever wins the nomination
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:20 AM
Nov 2019

is going to have to get real and check out the polling numbers. Right now the leading moderate candidate has 30% in the polls and the two people right behind him (both progressives) combined have 35%. It would be very, very foolish for anyone, moderate or progressive to think you could win the most delegates and have a blank check to choose your VP based on someone you got along with, someone you thought would "have your back" or be an awesome golfing buddy.

It would be a mistake for a moderate to win and assume progressives will fall in line behind their candidate. The same is true in reverse. Ideally, we need a balanced ticket, and for both people on it not to move forward thinking "well, I'm going to get EVERYTHING I WANTED when I was campaigning" but rather take from the best and most popular ideas both candidates had to offer.

Warren's M4A plan (much as I love her) is freaking people out. Many progressives I talk to do not feel Biden speaks to any of the issues they care about. If they joined forces (just an example), and took the best from both their proposals, something like Buttigieg's health care plan, Biden's foreign policy, Warren's plans to tax billionaires and use that money to pay for college, eliminate student loan debt, pay for child care, etc, I think you would see them getting out the vote across all demographics of the party.

On the flip side, if Biden chooses another person like Biden, we're going to have turnout issues from young people and progressives. If Warren chooses another person like Warren, we're going to have turnout issues from moderates and black voters.

They would, IMHO be strongest together or with someone who is the opposite ideologically from them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Good points. Why I like mini-warren. Katie Porter.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. No. They do not have to. They should pick someone for loyalty and who can back their policies, but
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:21 AM
Nov 2019

like Biden, bring qualifications and independent thought. It is the GE. Biden will draw the widest coalition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
26. WOC, preferably AA. Needs to represent! and yes younger than he is. But someone
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:19 AM
Nov 2019

as he said, on the same page. He deserves that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,622 posts)
28. Stacey Abrams
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:47 AM
Nov 2019

No matter who.
YMMV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
29. BIden's natural choice would be Harris and if I would was him I wouldapproach the
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 06:18 AM
Nov 2019

other candidates to take key Biden Admin positions on his cabinet. That would have the makings of a super team to tackle the GOP mess

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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