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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:54 PM Nov 2019

Sorry, Joe - there were many reasons Obama picked you as his running mate

But your "long-standing relationship" with the black community probably wasn't among the top 10 of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Sorry, Joe - there were many reasons Obama picked you as his running mate (Original Post) StarfishSaver Nov 2019 OP
Biden was chosen for the same reason some DUers think he can beat Trump IronLionZion Nov 2019 #1
Exactly. StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #2
The primaries in South Carolina will lift Biden. Then you'll see oasis Nov 2019 #3
The South Carolina primary results have nothing to do with my OP StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #4
Fair enough. I'll wait till then and kick this OP after the results are in. oasis Nov 2019 #5
"probably" quickesst Nov 2019 #6
What proof do you have that Obama picked Biden because of his relationship with the black community? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #7
haha.... quickesst Nov 2019 #8
You don't have to prove anything. Neither do I. He made the claim, without any proof. StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #9
"He made the claim, without any proof." quickesst Nov 2019 #10
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
1. Biden was chosen for the same reason some DUers think he can beat Trump
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:03 AM
Nov 2019

to get white voters in the midwest

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
2. Exactly.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:04 AM
Nov 2019

His strong relationships in the black community were a result of his being Obama's VP, not the reason for it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
3. The primaries in South Carolina will lift Biden. Then you'll see
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:06 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. The South Carolina primary results have nothing to do with my OP
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:07 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
5. Fair enough. I'll wait till then and kick this OP after the results are in.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:10 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
6. "probably"
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:01 AM
Nov 2019

Which means you don't know whether it was one of the reasons or not. If you want to remove the word probably from your statement, then of course you must be able to prove it as fact. The word probably means you are guessing, and the removal of the word probably means it is incumbent upon you to prove it as fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. What proof do you have that Obama picked Biden because of his relationship with the black community?
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:06 AM
Nov 2019

And no - Biden saying so isn't proof.

If you don't have any proof, you're in no position to complain that anyone else is guessing that he's wrong since you yourself are simply guessing, without proof, that he's right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
8. haha....
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:17 AM
Nov 2019

I haven't claimed that he did or didn't. I don't have to prove anything. I simply pointed out that's your claim is nothing more than a personal opinion, and has no basis in fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. You don't have to prove anything. Neither do I. He made the claim, without any proof.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:31 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
10. "He made the claim, without any proof."
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 03:46 AM
Nov 2019

So did you. What proof do you have that Obama did not take Joe Biden's standing with the black community into consideration? A statement to that effect from Barack Obama? ESP? I would assume that there were more important reasons why Obama chose Joe Biden than his standing with the black community. I would venture a guess there were at least two or three reasons that took precedence, so how do you know that Joe Biden's standing in the black community was not one of the remaining seven reasons in your top 10? Do you know, or are you guessing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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