Joe Biden announces 8 day No Malarkey bus tour through Iowa

[Gothmog]

Link to tweet

[Cha]

1. Grand way to Go Through Iowa!

Thank you, Goth!

[progressoid]

2. "No Malarkey"

That's the kind of catch phrase that really appeals to the youth vote.

[emmaverybo]

5. Ask those who are hipper than thou what's going on in the world geo-politically today and I

bet they aren’t with it. But I think Joe is. How petty and sad. Language is a beautiful, ever changing, and individual phenomenon. The best at it express their own style in choosing words. I often borrow from my parents’ and grandparents’ sayings. I borrow with love and joy. Like all fashion, old words get recycled.

Nothing new fashioned, by the way, with “down with the establishment.”

[Thekaspervote]

6. Great points!! Thx

[greyl]

7. From a marketing perspective, he needs to grow beyond his default age demographic.

The name of this tour is branding, not prose and poetry.

[emmaverybo]

9. Well, he isn't marketing to the bs market. He's being Joe, which is his most marketable feature.

And he’s got young advisors who obviously, given the quality of his ads, know something about
branding.

[greyl]

10. Iowa is a good fit for the name, so we'll see how it all rolls out.

I wish him a fair best.

[progressoid]

14. As an Iowan...

I can report that all of the Biden supporters around here are "of a certain age." All the younger Democrats that I know are not currently supporting him. If the Biden campaign wants to appeal to the other demographics in Iowa, I don't think this catch phrase is going to work.

[treestar]

27. What's the thing about the younger voters

a voter is a voter. I don't care how old they are.

[Hortensis]

34. THIS. Those attempting to project their own reactions and

wishes across whole demographics are just fooling themselves. There are almost as many variations in reactions as there are people, actually maybe more if you add in personal variations before and after breakfast.

I laughed at "malarkey" when Biden first announced, thinking maybe he should dump it. But he hasn't and there's a clue there. Its use will have been tested.

NEVER forgetting, Progressoid, that the goal is to win elections, and that's done by attracting max numbers of those who will vote.

[Cha]

46. Good grief! Malarky!

[SharonClark]

72. As an Iowan

I think the name of his tour will have about 0% impact on its success.

[LakeArenal]

26. Seems to be working just fine

[Demsrule86]

24. +1000

[Cha]

45. Touche', emmaverybo!

I love all kinds of words from all generations.

Remember when President Obama used ".. don't let them bamboozle ya".... in his speeches?

[emmaverybo]

48. Oh, I had forgotten. Love that. Refreshing. He always used the word "folks" too for the rather

impersonal word “people.”

[Kahuna7]

80. You said a mouth full....

Nothing new fashioned, by the way, with “down with the establishment.”

[JonLP24]

102. Even my mom said Marlarkey is a really old word from her parents generation

[LongtimeAZDem]

16. He had to go with "Malarky"; "BS" was taken

[NYMinute]

69. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha n/t

[LanternWaste]

17. He should toss out competitive Tide Pods to the hipster crowd.

That'll reach 'em.

[TidalWave46]

35. .

I truly laughed. Thank you.

[emmaverybo]

51. Oh Lordy!

[Kahuna7]

81. Now, you know that was a low blow...

Yet...very effective for this discussion...

[Demsrule86]

21. That is a sour grape kind of comment...he is known for saying this...Joe Biden is still the

front runner.

[Cha]

43. glad you think so, rollie eyes.

I think it's a great word.. but then I like lots of different words.. like when President Obama said .. ".. "Don't let them bamboozle ya..."

[NYMinute]

68. They'll learn a new word and make it as part of their culture nt

[Gothmog]

98. Vilsack-"I want my president to have empathy and compassion and heart."

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

101. So we're on a No Malarkey tour, meaning we're telling the truth."

Link to tweet

[progressoid]

105. We're gonna tell Donald Trump to 23 Skidoo!

[emmaverybo]

3. Great!

[greyl]

4. I hope there's still room for a skosh of tomfoolery and a tad of shenanigans.

Wonder if "No BS" tour was considered for a few seconds...

[emmaverybo]

8. OMG as we used to say and still do. My Irish partner uses the shenanigans word and so do I.

Gave me a laugh your post.

[greyl]

12. Nice, me too. nt

[Demsrule86]

22. I am always up for shenanigans...tomfoolery not so much.

[crazytown]

11. Good.

[IronLionZion]

13. Unless it's a silent tour

there may be some malarkey. There always is with political campaign speeches.

[Demsrule86]

23. It is not an issue for me...as I thought (hate to be right about this) There is not going to be a

conviction of Trump in the Senate. I am not sure the 40 moderates who won in 18 can vote for impeachment articles without losing their seats...not worth it without conviction. Thus, the 20 election is the only way to rid our country of the new form of cancer called Trump...and Biden can win. He can win with the same demographic that gave us the house in 18 and governorships in this year. He can win in the mid west particularly WI,MI and PA. Hell, he has a chance in Ohio. So, I have no worries about this. The nominee will have a vice president who will be able to assume the presidency if needed...and consider the youngest president elected did not finish out his term due to assassination so you just never know how these things turn out.

[treestar]

28. How is use of this word an age issue?

Most people know this word. I don't see how it is dated in any way. He's not saying the 23 Skidoo tour.

[LakeArenal]

29. "I really hate to say age is an issue"....but

We get it. For you age is an issue. But I don’t really believe you hate saying it all that much.

[emmaverybo]

52. Nailed it.

[LakeArenal]

67. Sure sure. Keep reminding people.

[Cha]

40. It's not an issue for me, either..

What the hell are you talking about "1926"?

[Gothmog]

99. Nate Silver thinks that this is a great idea

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[JonLP24]

103. Nate Silver is a moron

[Gothmog]

106. I disagree strongly

Nate understands demographics.

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[JonLP24]

107. He called Bernie's minority supporters "residue"

A lot of people took offense to that. I'm white myself so not sure how to feel about it but minority supporters of Sanders were very upset.

He should stick to crunching numbers & be less of a pundit. He was saying Trump couldn't win the primary last year and that he would lose the general election. Before they would say Republicans couldn't win an election because of Demographics then he said Hillary Clinton really lost Wisconsin because of whites without a college degree.

[Gothmog]

108. sanders has lost 50% to 75% of his support from 2016

Nate used this term with respect to all of sanders remaining supporters.

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I have no problem with Nate using this term to describe the much smaller universe os sanders supporters

[JonLP24]

109. Of course you wouldn't

Plenty of minority Bernie Sanders supporters and he ended up looking worse for it with that snarky De Blasio tweet. That is Silver's problem he can't say one good thing about Sanders even though he overrated Kamala Harris & Beto O'Rouke.

Bernie Sanders’ Supporters Speak Out Against Nate Silver ‘Residue’ Tweet

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2019/09/bernie-sanders-nate-silver-residue/amp/

You have to realize people live in a Manhattan or DC bubble and Nate Silver is one of those people.

[Gothmog]

110. Nate used the correct mathematical term

I have a background in math/statistics and Nate used the correct term. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/residue

residue[ rez-i-doo, -dyoo ]SHOW IPA
SEE SYNONYMS FOR residue ON THESAURUS.COM

noun
something that remains after a part is removed, disposed of, or used; remainder; rest; remnant.

sanders' base is far smaller than such base used to be. What is left of sanders' base after the defection of more than half of such base is correctly referred to as the residue. Nate Silver was using this term with respect to the entire remaining base of sanders supporters which is now much smaller than what such base used to be.

What mathematical term should have been used to describe what is remaining of the sanders' base after such base has been drastically reduced by mainly white liberal voters deciding to support other candidates?

I have no trouble with Nate Silver using the correct mathematical term and would love to see what alternative term should have been used. I do not live in Manhattan or DC (Texas is not part of any Manhattan/DC bubble).

[lapucelle]

115. Nate Silver was born and raised in Michigan and lives in Chicago. N/T

[Hortensis]

121. Nate's right about those who fool themselves that factional

feelings are shared by the large majority of Democrats. We see that displayed here all the time.

What he didn't mention, and I believe is huge, is that, due to an uber-righteous commitment to their chosen leader, most of those people have no respect for what others think, even hold everyone who disagrees with them in contempt.

While they speak of constantly of "the people," that combination of conceits actually creates an excuse, constantly and determinedly grabbed, for trying to set aside the will of the people to get what they want. They're almost always far too few to succeed.

What was so shocking about Sanders repeatedly promising and then trying to illicitly overset the popular vote wasn't that he would do it, given his decades of dissing rhetoric, but that so many of his followers supported his plan instead of dropping him cold the first time he promised it.

But again, those are no more representative of who the large majority of Democrats are than Sanders' attitude toward the democratic process is representative of our other candidates'.

[lapucelle]

112. Nate Silver appears to have called all of BS's supporters left over from last time "residue".

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Etymology of "residue":

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[Gothmog]

114. Nate did NOT insult sanders minority supporters

Nate used the correct terminology

[lapucelle]

116. So statistician Silver neither lives in, works in, nor is from Manhattan or Washington,

used the term "residue" correctly, and applied the term to all of BS's leftover supporters from 2016, not to one subset of them.

And all of this makes Nate Silver "a moron".

[Cha]

113. hmm I wonder why you have such

a low opinion of Nate Silver?

[Gothmog]

119. Washington Post-Analysis: The unexpected nostalgia of Biden's "malarkey"

This amuses me. The Washington Post has a great discussion on this history and use of the term marlarkey

Link to tweet

Former vice president Joe Biden is aggressively and self-consciously the following things, in no particular order: Irish American, older, a regular guy. Were those traits structured into a Venn diagram, there would be few better words to sit at the center where all three meet than a single word: Malarkey.

Biden loves the word malarkey, so much so that it didn’t take much for me to dig into The Washington Post’s video archive to find this compilation of times that Biden has referred to things using the term. Asked what, exactly, the word meant during the 2012 vice presidential debate, he said that it meant “stuff,” which was his older, regular guy way of saying that it meant BS (which is itself a Post way of saying a particular expletive).....

Cultural phenomenons recur in a cyclical fashion, though the duration of those cycles isn’t constant. It seems feasible that the 1980s brought nostalgia for a term that had emerged 30-plus years earlier — and that Biden is single-handedly powering a renaissance another 30-plus years on. “Malarkey” may be doing for Biden what “Make America Great Again” did for Trump on a smaller scale in evoking the era of President Ronald Reagan.

Most of his embrace of the term is about branding, reinforcing his political identity, and the traits we identified at the beginning of the article. He’s the guy who called Republican ideas “malarkey” and he’s the guy who uses terms like “malarkey” because he’s old and centered and willing to use normal-guy terms like “malarkey” even if that is abnormal.

There’s a corniness to it that is on-brand for Biden. It’s the sort of thing that seems like it could appeal to older voters (and older white voters) more than anyone else. That’s a group that makes up a large chunk of the population, if only a smaller part of the Democratic primary electorate. (Biden’s distinctive strength in the primary is among black Democratic voters.)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

126. Why would a politician find it necessary to emphasize "no malarkey"?! Shouldn't that be a given?!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Act_of_Reparation]

18. So how much malarkey can we expect from this tour?

[TidalWave46]

36. It's in the headline. NT

[Act_of_Reparation]

39. Does this mean we're not going to get stories about Cornpop and record players?

[Cha]

41. Cornpop is real.. try and keep up, please.

[emmaverybo]

53. Some like to march in parades, some like to watch, catching a bit of the crowd's enthusiasm,

and then there’s those who only come because they like to rain on ‘em. Sad.

[MustLoveBeagles]

56. Yeah that's exactly what it means

[Gothmog]

125. This was a great tour

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

19. This should be fun

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[Tipperary]

50. Wow, he is getting dragged in that thread.

Goodness gracious me!

[Cha]

60. Yes, it is too bad..

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I edited 'cause it was totally wrong!

[Tipperary]

62. I was referring to the comments on Biden's thread

where he announced the tour on Twitter. Not sure I get your reference to BS. Guess I am missing something, but I really should be getting back to sleep.

As far as Biden getting bad comments in response to his announcement, I think it a shame.

[Cha]

63. I'm sorry, Tipperary!

I totally mistook you for someone else.. I guess I should go to bed.

You weren't missing anything I was!

[Demsrule86]

20. What a great idea. K&R

[BannonsLiver]

25. The people mocking the name are ageist bigots.

[LakeArenal]

30. I guess he should have said what???

Is it a “no dope” tour.
a “ so phat” tour
a “stay cool honey bunny tour”

I have no idea myself. Being old and all.

Oops. I meant to respond to the thread.

[BannonsLiver]

31. These are the same type of people that complained about pizazz during the hearings

Btw, I’m not old and I like the god damn name.

[LakeArenal]

32. 😉

[Cha]

61. Some complained about the word "pizazz"?!

I like that word, too.. and thanks for reminding me of it.

We're not suppose to use certain word because it offends their sense of. what?!

[TidalWave46]

37. I think they are being a bit more offensive to those just over 18 than to Biden himself.

So many people desperately trying to take shots at Biden for his age actually end up talking about young people as if they are all flat out stupid.

[emmaverybo]

54. Oh gosh, you are right. A really insightful,comment.

[Cha]

42. I know.. and terrible so called

advocates for their candidates.

[Gothmog]

127. Snarky mockery of Joe Biden is sheer malarkey

Link to tweet

Older adults and seniors consistently have the highest turnout rates. One of the earliest Democratic primary states is Nevada, where the youth turnout rate in 2016 was 5 percent. In South Carolina, another early Democratic state, it was 18 percent – which was actually lower than in 2012.

Biden doesn’t care right now about younger voters, because if they show up at all in the early primaries, they’ll likely choose Bernie or Warren. But older people vote in the greatest numbers, they don’t pay attention to Twitter or the late-night wiseacres, and they like Biden.

They’re his base, and they’ve kept him at the top of the Democratic race. The “No Malarkey” slogan is designed specifically for them. Young people think the slogan is synonymous with old guy, but, as one Biden precinct captain in Iowa told Politico, “Older people know what it means, and older people vote.”

And regardless of whether you support or oppose Biden, you have to admit that the “No Malarkey” slogan attests to his authenticity. If he seems uncool, using a word that traces back to the Jazz Age and beyond, then so be it. He is who he is, take it or leave it. Voters tend to appreciate it when a politician eschews pretense and behaves like a human.

[stonecutter357]

33. good let's go Joe !

[TidalWave46]

38. I remember when Biden slapped Paul Ryan across the face by calling his arguments...

a bunch of malarkey in a debate.

[Gothmog]

44. This will help this tour

Link to tweet

[Cha]

47. And, it's No Malarky!

[emmaverybo]

55. "Down with the establishment" can be Bernie's tour. Pretty much sums up his party-down theme

and it’s so fresh and now—NOT.

[Cha]

59. lol smh.. got the talking points

down "stale" "status quo" "centrist".. I asked if he were sure he didn't want to add "establishment" to his stale status quo list.

[ritapria]

79. Joe should have named his Tour

Rapp'in with Robinette

[emmaverybo]

90. Lol. That's got pizzazz!

[ritapria]

91. Bernie was dancing with the Young Ladies tonight in NH

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There's going to be Hell to pay when Jane finds out ... 5 days ago He was hitting mid rage jumpers in Vegas ……. Joe needs to keep up with the new , cool . Hip Berne …..

[emmaverybo]

95. Rod Stewart or Frank Sinatra, not sure myself, but we shall see. Loving dueling eldsters. Yes,

this is what medical advances brings us. And big boomer pop. And big white advantage. Who could not have predicted that an elderly radical would be faced off with an elderly liberal?

[Cha]

58. "stale" "centrist" "status quo".. are you sure you don't want

to add the ol stale status quo "establishment" to your list of ridiculous insults?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Blue_true]

83. You responded to a person who is no longer among us Cha.

Someone got deep sixed last night after responding to a pretty mild post that I made. I felt bad when I saw that, but the person could have responded to my post in a civil fashion, or not call the democratic politician that I referenced names.

[Cha]

85. Yes I know..

[Blue_true]

87. One point.

We have been relatively free of account removals after suffering a wave of what looked like Freeper infiltration. The current wave seem to be from people that claim to be progressives. I wonder whether JPR types are not filtering back into DU as actual primary voting draws near?

[Cha]

88. That one sounded it..

had all the disingenuous talking points down.. and was particularly nasty to Joe Biden thoughout.

[Demsrule86]

92. JPR types are back in force...so don't feel bad.

[still_one]

66. Out of curiosity, what are you going to do if Biden is the nominee?

[NYMinute]

70. Do you have to ask?

Anyone who uses the word "establishment" .... .... ... ...

[Cha]

76. Yeah, I agree..

about that.. and then you had the "centrist" "status quo" "stale" thrown in for good measure.. lol

[NYMinute]

89. ++++++

[still_one]

77. I guess not

[Cha]

74. Brawawaaaaa!

[MustLoveBeagles]

57. And that's no bullshit

Thanks for the tread Gothmog.

[YOHABLO]

64. Malarkey definition: Irish American for BS

[Blue_true]

84. Even I know that.

I think that it is a good catchphrase for his tour.

[Gothmog]

97. Joe's bus has the definition on it

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[Gothmog]

120. Analysis: The unexpected nostalgia of Biden's "malarkey"

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The heyday of “malarkey” on the pages of The Post came in the 1980s. There were a few little bursts before, including in the late 1800s, when Washington Senators pitcher John Malarkey was racking up a grim 2-10 record over three seasons. In the 1940s, Western High School slugger Jack Malarkey got fairly regular write-ups in the paper. By the 1980s, though, the word’s appearances were mostly of the sort that Biden would appreciate. By the 2000s, the popularity of the word had died again.

Google’s extensive index of books allows us to see how the popularity of words evolves over time. Its Ngram tool shows the frequency of words as a percentage of all words from books published in a particular year.

That data shows that use of “malarkey” spiked in books in the 1980s, just as it did in The Post. Interestingly, “malarkey” seems to have edged out “malarky,” with the latter spelling dying out from the 1960s on, as use of the former continued to gain steam. There’s a slight drop-off beginning about 2004; the Google Books data only goes through 2008.

[SharonClark]

71. Geez Louise

Leave the guy alone and let him express himself as he wishes. If young people don’t know what malarkey means then they can google it and learn something.

Using malarkey and other common Irish words are as valuable as the latest trendy verbiage that the “cool” people perpetuate that can stop a conversation cold. For an example, see Ari Melber’s rap talk that befuddled his guests and made no sense when discussing the impeachment hearings.

Biden isn’t my first choice and I wish he weren’t running but attacking his use of malarkey is just malarkey.

[Cha]

75. Mahalo, Sharon!

[Blue_true]

86. It's marlarkey for people to attack Joe Biden for using marlarkey.

Maybe first they should have looked it up in a dictionary.

[Gothmog]

73. Here is a great endorsement

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?

[Kurt V.]

78. Malarkey needs to be defeated!

[Gothmog]

82. Former Governor, Secretary of agriculture and Iowa Senator Tom Vilsack endorses Joe Biden for Presid

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[Gothmog]

94. Gov. Tom Vilsack signs his "commit to caucus" card for @JoeBiden

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[Gothmog]

96. The @JoeBiden "No Malarkey" bus tour is underway in Iowa!

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[Peacetrain]

100. Isnt he going to be in Cedar Rapids on Dec. 7th?

Got my calendar circled.. .. He is touring some heartland country there.. And areas where we have strong Hispanic populations.. good choice.. He is going to knock doors in smaller communities.. good for him!! But I am counting on CR!!..

[brooklynite]

104. It's all in the branding...

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[Gothmog]

111. No Malarkey Tour Day 2 - the Bidens and the Vilsacks at the Moose Lodge in Carroll, Iowa

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[Shrek]

117. I'm switching my preference to Biden for the duration of the tour

So if somehow my state has a primary in the next few days he'll get my vote.



I'll probably switch back once it's over but I love this idea.

[Gothmog]

118. If you are debating what "malarkey" means, or whether the word is still relevant, Biden is winning

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[R B Garr]

122. No Malarky is hilarious!

I love it.

If that’s so difficult for young voters, maybe we should quit serving them green beer on St. Patrick’s Day and other familiar Irish traditions that have permeated our culture. J/K!

[Gothmog]

123. Joe is using this tour to great effect

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[Gothmog]

124. This tour has been a major success

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[Gothmog]

128. And just like that, we're back in Iowa for round three of the "No Malarkey" bus stops

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