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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigMin28
(1,174 posts)As far as I am concerned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,351 posts)is perhaps the stupidest thing any of us could do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)The STUPIDEST thing we could ever do is elect another old, white, elitist, racist, out-of-touch, billionaire CEO to the WH.
Take your vanity and over-blown ego back to NY and leave the rest of us alone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,743 posts)Money won't get him past these two blunders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)He has a history of being VERY generous with good causes, Global Warming, guns, etc.
So Mike, give the DNC like a billion dollars, OK!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,769 posts)We don't want a nominee who bought himself a place on the stage. I think I'd include Steyer here too, although I do like his positions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Vote BLUE no MATTER who!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,409 posts)Or he has his parties mixed up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mysteryowl
(7,363 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)as does Deval Patrick and Bain Capital.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mysteryowl
(7,363 posts)and cannot stand by and watch our democratic candidates that want to tax him appropriately.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But I think that legalization is one issue where a lot of true conservatives agree with most progressives, legalize it.
I believe that it should be reduced to a fine for use in public, not nothing for use behind closed doors. There should be a fine for driving while toking. In my world, the penalties would mirror those for alcohol (legal, but not legal to use everywhere, sell to or give to minors).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)The fine would be for drinking or possessing the alcohol rather than the weed. We have it exactly wrong in our culture.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)irresponsible use.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Regulations have completely broken down. The black market dwarfs the legal industry. Tax revenues are below projections as criminal enterprises have largely taken over the trade.
And the worst thing is that teen use is skyrocketing. Criminals rarely have any compunctions about selling to kids.
Illegal delivery services will bring it right to a teen's door.
The schools are seeing academic failure and mental and emotional health issues due to heavy pot consumption at rates they have never seen before.
We are doing to pay very deadly as a society for promoting a drug as if it doesn't cause serious harm to the brains, well-being, and life prospects of young people.
We are making a huge mistake. We need to find a way to de-criminalize pot w/o sacrificing a generation to the drug abuse of marijuana, a drug that causes young minds very serious harm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)The schools are seeing academic failure and mental and emotional health issues due to heavy pot consumption at rates they have never seen before.
Link?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yardwork
(61,539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iggo
(47,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)And either don't have a clue, or care, about the costs to people of having legal actions on their record.
Anyone against legalization for adults is a jackboot licking, prison loving right-winger who is no democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Legalization in CA has opened the floodgates to teen use. That is having real harm.
You are way behind the curve.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)just as are racists, sexists, and homophobes. Not that merely being anti cannabis consumption is quite as bad as any of those other backward, slack jawed and cognitively impaired opinions, but it's of a somewhat fash kind.
Keep your damned laws, piss poor psychoanalysis, and paranoid drug warrior fascism off out of my laws, body and community. Spare me the red herring 'what about the children (e.g. incompetent parenting) bullshit.
We've felt the hobnails of your type on our neck for decades, never again.
There is not the slightest bit of evidence that marijuana use is detrimental to adults. As for kids, like cigarettes and booze, only a knuckle dragging jackboot wearing a-hole would regulate what ADULTS can consume on the basis that some children might get also get hold of such substances. If they do, blame the parents, just as with cigs and booze and prescription drugs.
Anyone against legalization is in the wrong political party and is even in the fascist fringe of the Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)"fascist fringe of the Republicans?"
Because I'm not seeing it. At. All.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)Seeing anything must be hard when licking jackboots.
Maybe look at the title of this thread?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)Hilarious!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)because it is still illegal for anyone under 21 to purchase. If teens want it they will get it. Same with alcohol and cigarettes. Always have, always will. But to say that legalization has caused this is the chicken little scenario.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Illegal delivery services often supply minors.
Most places have very small numbers of criminal enterprises selling alcohol to minors. But with cannabis, illegal sales far exceed legal sales.
There were never criminal-commercial sales on this scale previously. Now a few clicks and a teenager can have product on the doorset.
Some folks are denying reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)they would find a way to get it one way or another.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)If we pretend we don't have a problem, we are making a huge mistake.
We need to find a balance that de-criminalizes or legalizes cannabis w/o making it so easily available to minors.
The CA legalization is a disaster. The schools are seeing the damage first hand.
There is some serious reality-denialism going on.
Shame.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)any links to verifiable sources for this information. Otherwise you're just making stuff up to serve your agenda.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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progressoid
(49,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm not a big fan of of the abject denial-of-use of the scientific method.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iggo
(47,536 posts)Like where they were talking about marijuana then switched to "drug" overdoses, like more than zero of those drug overdoses were marijuana overdoses.
"I say there's a problem, and here's a statistic about a different problem that proves my point, ya dummies."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)The 80s are calling and they want the rhetoric back.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)It is a lawless wild-west show out here where ant teen with a cell phone can get THC vape products delivered to his or her door with a few clicks.
It is causing havoc in the school and damaging lives.
That's neither Nancy Reagan or Reefer Madness.
We have screwed up here by not in any way protecting the kids.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)
1. Support your assertions on cannabis laying waste to California and ruining schools etc.
2. Even if you could support that argument, which you cant, I have some news for you that you may not be quite aware of: California is not the center of the universe. Colorado and other states have been doing just fine with legalization. Try looking beyond CA once in a while.
3. drink your wine and spirits and leave the rest of us alone. Its clear you have a very dated, very fearful view on this subject thats probably best left unsaid at this point. The Prohibitionists have lost this war. Good.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)1. I have a student in high school here in CA and the school is in crisis. Teachers and Admins (all progressive and caring people) are throwing up red-flags. Never have they seen such rampant drug used during school hours--thanks to vape pens--and it us taking a terrible toll on academic performance and on mental/emotional health.
2. If Colorado is doing better, we'd all be well advised to find out what they did right, because CA has screwed the pooch. The "industry" here is dominated by criminal enterprises, which operate outside the law. Any teen can get THC products, and they do.
3. LOL. The insults are completely misplaced. You are the one who has a dated and misinformed view. You are NOT dealing with reality. I'm NOT a "prohibitionist," I just know any de-criminalization/legalization scheme needs to limit access to teens--as marijuana has profoundly bad effects on adolescent minds.
We will have a lot to answer for if we screw this up. Marijuana is hardly a benign drug when used in adolescence and those who lies to our children are complicit in causing grave harm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)I'd suggest you get off the internet some time and see what's really happening. You are way behind the curve.
And if you think I'm a "drinker," you're only compounding your wrong-headedness.
I could care less if you consume THC. We need de-criminalization/legalization schemes that work to limit access to teens. We have a total failure here. Night and day differences since "legalization."
Even the legal dispensaries are up in arms about the lack of enforcement as the criminal enterprises are eating their lunch.
You're wrong, and aggressively so. Not a good combo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Living in the real world...
Is that what spewing anecdotal bullshit is called now?
Oh lordy, no wonder you guys lost the war.
Recreational marijuana legalization tied to decline in teens using pot, study says
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/08/health/recreational-marijuana-laws-teens-study/index.html
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2019-02-14/teen-pot-use-fell-in-states-that-legalized-medical-marijuana-study
Fewer California Teens are Using Marijuana, Study Shows
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicalmarijuanainc.com/news/california-teens-marijuana/amp/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)in the schools, I listen.
The study you are citing was taken BEFORE legalization, when drug use was on the wane. LOL.
It has skyrocket since.
Do you read the articles you link to?
The only losers here are the ypung people who lives and minds are being undermined.
Shame.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)You are behind the curve.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california/Teens-Marijuana-Use-on-the-Rise-SANDAG-says-488158431.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)
Or your child, for that matter.
Youve been presented with evidence and data contradicting your fear based, completely irrational (and lame) Reefer Madness POV on this subject. Yet, Your entire point is 100 percent emotion and anecdotal evidence.
Cuz the children!1!1
But Heres a thought, if youre so worried about your kid getting on the devil lettuce why not just parent a little harder...preferably out of my way, sight and earshot at movie theaters, restaurants and on airplanes.
Tah Tah
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Maybe you should read the links you provide?
Instead of acknowledging that YOU BLEW IT, you double down with insults.
Why do you think they call it dope?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)You are way behind the times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Okay, dad.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iggo
(47,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iggo
(47,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(12,965 posts)as you have made it repeatedly.
I'll wait.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)I do not live in California, but most of these unsubstantiated claims do not seem to correspond with anything I have read. The bit about "academic failure and mental and emotional health issues" is straight up fear mongering given the very short window in which marijuana has been legal there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Probably still calls it dope
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)I have 5 plants in the basement and still call it "dope"!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)being caused are unwilling to change with the times.
You are out of touch and engaging in "denialism."
That's a shame. Since you are dead wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Illegal pot sales dwarf the "legal" industry here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stevil
(1,537 posts)Was going on before legalization. Would you support putting farmers, shippers and distributers in jail like the good old days? Fines to smoke the kind? I disagree with your estimation. I live in CA too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)It isn't so. When we had medical marijuana legal adults who wanted it had no problems. A doctor's script was a formality from any pot doctor.
Since "legalization" the regulated market has been dwarfed by criminal enterprises. That's the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iggo
(47,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BigMin28
(1,174 posts)what about its effect on society?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)as much as possible.
I don't know of any apps that allow a 30 min home delivery of alcohol to a minor by a criminal enterprise. That's not the case with cannabis here in CA.
That's the point. We should do better. We've got a serious problem. Burying heads in the sand--or attacking the messengers--will not fix the crisis (and it is a crisis) of THC products by teens here in CA since "legalization."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigMin28
(1,174 posts)It's not from regulated dispensaries. And I have news for you, kids can get weed or any other drug at school or anywhere in less than 5 minutes. To think legalization caused that is absurd. I went to high school in the 70's. If you wanted drugs of any kind, they were available at school if you had the cash. In minutes. Prohibiting adults from using marijuana won't keep it from the kids.
Perhaps the parents should keep a closer eye on their children, and be cognizant of the cash they throw their way. If the kids don't have the cash, believe me, the won't be buying weed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Here are the facts: illegal dispensaries and illegal delivery operations have come to dwarf legal enterprises since "legalization."
We have three things that has caused a "perfect storm" that is very different from the past.
1) Illegal vendors can be accessed through apps like Weedmaps that link to criminal enterprises. Teens can get home delivery.
2) Vape has changed the game. Now many high schoolers are vaping between classes. This is having catastrophic consequences. Vape is very stealthy vs smoking.
3) Legalization proponents have been feeding the "big lie" that marijuana consumption is either benign or even a positive. It's not. But teens are getting the wrong message, especially given the destructive properties of marijuana on adolescent brains. We are seeing academic failure and dimming life prospects as a direct result.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigMin28
(1,174 posts)Have always been able to get it. They don't need delivery services. No one networks like teenagers. Criminalizing it again won't stop them I doubt very much they are having it delivered to their house under their parents nose. But yet I do not believe children, teenagers should use it. Adults should be able to.
If they are ordering weed on a tech platform, they either have a credit card, or debit card to do so. I have a 17 year old. I know what money he has and where it goes. If he came home high, I would know immediately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Alcohol and prescription meds can be found in almost every American home these days. They may not shave off IQ points whatever thats supposed to mean, but they can and will kill you if used incorrectly. Id take the loss of IQ points in the scenario if Im a parent (even though the pot kills brain cells thing has been debunked).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)And there all sort of way to buy things these day--from Apple Pay, to Pay Pal, to good-old-fashioned cash.
The reality is that here in CA the Weedmaps app lists illegal dispensaries and delivery services. Teens know which ones provide to minors.
There has long been marijuana use by teens. The condition today--with teens vaping between classes on the scale happening now--is unprecedented.
Dedicated educators are throwing up red-flags. They have never seen any like it. And it is damaging lives.
We need to be real here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Beyond the local PTA gossip. Still waiting for something, anything, beyond that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Same with herb.
To ignore the devastation that can be caused by alcohol abuse is as nonsensical as ignoring the harm of adolescents vaping THC.
That's nuts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)How many suffer brain damage from THC overdoses relative to alcohol?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)That doesn't mean that THC use can't shave 6 points off an adolescent's IQ, cause an interference with learning, amplify mental and emotional health issues, or set up a teen for greatly diminished life prospects.
The nature of these two drugs are different. But both can cause serious harm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Annnnnd thats why the fear mongering Prohibitionists ultimately lost the war.
Womp Womp
Its up to you to make sure your child does not fall into the evil elicit trap of the devils lettuce, not mine, or your neighbors. YOURS. Id also mention that there is no drug easier for a teen to obtain than alcohol and prescription medication. Both are in virtually every home in America.
I dont support teenagers under the age of 18 using marijuana products but at the same time Im not about to just say Welp the systems broken throw it all out because some may in fact use marijuana before they are of legal age.
Finally, 67 percent of Americans favor legalization according to the latest polling data which is from THIS MONTH. So youre views are at odds with most Americans including I would guess a healthy number of GOP voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)You won't even acknowledge that marijuana use by adolescents is a problem That's denialism of the worst kind.
Impaired short-term memory. Altered brain development. Poor academic outcomes. Lowered judgement. Lowered IQ. Increased mental illness. Emotional health problems. Lowered life prospects.
Just a few of the real problems. None of which will you acknowledge.
Shame.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)It was a problem in the 70s. It was a problem in the 80s. It was a problem in the 90s. It was a problem in the oughts.
The difference is Im not acting like I just figured out that teens in America gasp have been using marijuana for a very long time, like you are.
Also Im pretty sure in my previous post I mentioned that I was opposed to teenagers using marijuana products before they were of legal age. What about that is confusing to you?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Most Americans agree with me.
You know whats great? Seeing how you guys lost the war. With arguments like that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Youre probably opposed to that Im sure but alcohol beyond an in a pinch antiseptic has no real medicinal value. Ever hear of Charlottes Web? I doubt it.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)That doesn't change the downsides of THC use on adolescent brains.
You seem unwilling to acknowledge that. Why?
E.W. White's Charlotte's Web?
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BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)and restricted licensing for legal dispensaries. I did some googling and the liberal bay area is much more successful with this than the more conservative areas.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-s-cannabis-black-market-has-eclipsed-its-legal-one-n1053856
So legalization is not the cause of the problems you described.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iggo
(47,536 posts)EDIT: And wait, didn't he just apologize for this bullshit policy like day before yesterday?
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bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)and how he is the only person who can unite the country...
I really don't want a Democratic candidate who basically has Nixon's views on cannabis.
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tblue37
(65,227 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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dchill
(38,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kimbutgar
(21,060 posts)As if we need another out of touch billionaire in the White House!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)... In the REPUBLICAN party!!
How is this guy even allowed to have a "D" next to his name??
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The Mouth
(3,145 posts)Some of us have fought long and hard for legalization, damned if I'm going to support, or do anything other than curse and ridicule, any slack jawed, inbred, fascist son of a bitch who even murmurs about re-criminalizing cannabis.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)Who are these dinosaurs? Cannabis is medicine and they still want to cling to the BS? Sure, lots of folks in their 80s will agree, but that's not enough to win the election.
Going on record as saying the young vote is critical. Pretending cannabis is the evil weed is not going to win many young voters and why climb on that side of the fence anyway? I seriously don't get it. -- oh, wait, I forgot. He's all for rounding up brown folk and pot gets that job done nicely. Yup, always a reason.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Especially when they find out it's no big deal in terms of effects...
I have a good friend who grew up in India. We were motorcycling buddies. He is Sikh.
I noticed that while he seemed to enjoy alcohol, he shunned pot. I asked why. He said in India, alcohol is illegal. But pot is legal. He said that pot smokers in India tended to be the lowest classes. So he turned his nose up at it.
I'm not saying the reverse is true here, as well have skid-row drunks and pot-head homeless people. But I think most would agree that while alcohol can kill, it seems impossible to get stoned enough to perish. Granted they are two very difference substances, and abuse of either should be discouraged. But laws making pot illegal are ineffective and counter-productive.
Me? I'm a cheap drunk. Often at night at home I can't even finish one beer. A half-glass of wine with dinner generally does it for me. There's a fine line between the soothing and calming effects of a small amount of alcohol (it is classed as a depressant), and the deleterious effects (slower reaction times, loss of inhibitions, impaired judgement, falling down drunk). I avoid crossing that line. Perhaps having an alcoholic parent served as a life-long warning. I've seen up close how it can destroy a person.
I haven't smoked pot for decades. I had my fling with it in my youth and finally decided the negative side effects outweighed the novelty of its high. But I suspect that if it had been legal all along, my use of it would have been much less, for less time, if at all.
Your mileage may vary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,099 posts)Silly position
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Prosper
(761 posts)he is god. Billionaires have no concept of reality. All they experience is people tripping over each other lavishing adoration and devotion on even the slightest chance the billionaire might look their way. They have totally abused the concept of money as the lifeblood of the economic system. They are incident oriented rather than institutional. They care not the slightest that hoarding and controlling billions of dollars removes that lifeblood from the economy creating poverty. Creating fabulous namesake foundations instead of fabulous namesake industrial parks. Gates and Buffet alone could create industrial centers pursuing improvements in technologies. No Bloomberg, you are not god deserving the worship of impoverished suffering masses.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)including pot has leaped by gigantic amounts over the last 20-30 years, and hasn't seem to have abated, regardless of the illegality of pot. Perhaps making pot legal is one way to (1) make tax revenues to more effectively fight the other scourges (heroin, meth, illegally used prescribed medicines, alcohol, etc.). There are other things that need more attention perhaps. Everybody is trying to get their hands around this issue and it impacts all of us.
Meth is a big problem, especially in rural Missouri where my retired Mom lives. I worry about her constantly, thinking that one day, someone is going to knock her in the head and steal from her to support their drug habit. And they have passed laws regarding the purchase of the OTC drugs that are used to manufacture meth, but that hasn't seemed to really dent the trade...it's simply moved over the border into Mexico and other places south.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
magicarpet
(14,124 posts)Stop,... strip search,... then shoot,..... good.
What is this guy
A fascist
With a real fat bank account ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rurallib
(62,387 posts)be consistent and outlaw those also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,462 posts)We are fighting for our democracy, clean air and water, equal rights for all, putting kids in cages.
Seriously? Pot? A dumbass fight when there is so MUCH to fight for.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Half the population are now in states that allow at least medical use of marijuana.
70K people a year die from overdoses of opioids (many which are LEGAL).
Just about no one dies from overdoses of marijuana.
I didn't realize he is a stupid man, but there's the evidence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden