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femmedem

(8,201 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:53 AM Nov 2019

Pete Buttigieg has a big new plan to shake up the retirement system

Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

"...Perhaps the most ambitious part of the plan would create a “a historic and free long-term care program to protect people over age 65” called Long-Term Care America that amounts to an addition to the social safety net.

Here’s how it works: every retiree who needs help “with two or more activities of daily living” would get $90 a day to defray the costs of long term care after some waiting periods based on income. The benefit could be used for things like hiring a home health aide or paying for a nursing home.

The current average Social Security benefit is $1,471 per month. This program, at $90 a day, would be a benefit worth almost double that for the much smaller number of eligible seniors."

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"...The plan has a range of inducements to encourage seniors to stay at home for their care. That is a feature that Nancy Altman, president of a group called Social Security Works, thinks will help defray some of the cost. "There really are incentives for people to stay at home, as opposed to, the immediate default is spend down, go on Medicaid, and go into an institution," she says adding that currently there is an "unintended bias in the current law towards institutional care.”

More at link: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-retirement-plan-110045918.html

And a link to his plan: https://peteforamerica.com/policies/dignity/

Edited to add: Time has an article on the plan now which I think explains it more clearly. https://time.com/5738121/pete-buttigieg-long-term-care-retirement/

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Pete Buttigieg has a big new plan to shake up the retirement system (Original Post) femmedem Nov 2019 OP
I will stick with the Freedom Dividend as proposed by Andrew Yang Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #1
I went to the link for the plan customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #2
"... for the much smaller number of eligible seniors." redqueen Nov 2019 #3
did you miss the part about needing help with life's activities dsc Nov 2019 #4
No, I saw it. redqueen Nov 2019 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2019 #6
Too much like vouchers: here's some cash, take care of your own problem bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #7
Long term care is *WAY* beyond what either Yang or Pete think it is The Mouth Nov 2019 #8
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I will stick with the Freedom Dividend as proposed by Andrew Yang
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:10 AM
Nov 2019

The $1k per month for everyone over 18 will lift all boats and create a trickle up economy.

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customerserviceguy

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2. I went to the link for the plan
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:19 AM
Nov 2019

and I must have missed the mechanism that would be used to pay for this.

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redqueen

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3. "... for the much smaller number of eligible seniors."
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:35 AM
Nov 2019

Anyone done the math on that?

From the Google
"Now men in the United States aged 65 can expect to live 18 more years on average. Women aged 65 years can expect to live around 20.6 more years on average. Life expectancy in the U.S. As of 2016, the average life expectancy at birth in the United States was 78.69 years."

The cost would of course be increased by the means testing requires as well.

Seems like giving everyone 65 and up an extra $2700 per month would sure get some votes. Wonder if anyone will start attacking Pete for buying votes.

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dsc

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4. did you miss the part about needing help with life's activities
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:50 AM
Nov 2019
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. No, I saw it.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:02 AM
Nov 2019

I also know how easy it is to claim that.

And for $2700/mo - who wouldn't at least try?

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bucolic_frolic

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7. Too much like vouchers: here's some cash, take care of your own problem
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 12:09 PM
Nov 2019
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The Mouth

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8. Long term care is *WAY* beyond what either Yang or Pete think it is
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:31 PM
Nov 2019

$7K a month for anyplace that isn't a foul hellhole, $3-4K a month for mostly around the clock care.

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