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dsc

(52,155 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 07:45 AM Nov 2019

So what if Bloomberg gets to 10% in the polls

but still refuses donations and thus can't be on the debate stage? Now to be clear I neither want nor think this will happen but can the DNC hold the line in terms of debates if a candidate with double the cutoff of support is off the stage while some who barely scrape by are. This is what happens when you try to have hard and fast rules for something like this. Again, I don't think this will happen but if it does, it won't be pretty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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So what if Bloomberg gets to 10% in the polls (Original Post) dsc Nov 2019 OP
i have not watched a single debate and im not the only one..i cant even tell you who is on...... samnsara Nov 2019 #1
Debates are now irrelevant evertonfc Nov 2019 #2
At this point the debates are an opportunity bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #6
do you really think bloomberg can get to 10%? what is he now? rampartc Nov 2019 #3
No in point of fact I wrote the words I don't think it will happen dsc Nov 2019 #4
Good point. cwydro Nov 2019 #5
I think that the goal is for him to siphon votes away from Sanders and Warren. CentralMass Nov 2019 #7
You really think that Bloomberg shares the same pool of supporters Hav Nov 2019 #17
the real problem with Bloomberg would be his attempt at running 3rd party AND russian bots beachbumbob Nov 2019 #8
He isn't going to do that dsc Nov 2019 #10
"And won't do anything to help Trump win." BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #12
He probably hates Trump more than he loves his money. Iggo Nov 2019 #19
I think the rules are pretty fair. Not perfect, but fair. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #9
Answer: if Bloomberg gets to 10% he doesn't need the debates... brooklynite Nov 2019 #11
Rules are rules...we don't want billionaires buying the nomination. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #13
If this happens, I will be grateful to see Bloomberg blocked out. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #14
It could wind up being problematic for his competitors dsc Nov 2019 #15
Yes it could. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #16
Tom Perez told reporter Dave Weigel Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #18
Then he qualifies as an 'also ran' instead of a joke Amishman Nov 2019 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2019 #21
What makes you think that? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2019 #22
I think Bloomberg can hold his own Zorro Nov 2019 #23
 

samnsara

(17,619 posts)
1. i have not watched a single debate and im not the only one..i cant even tell you who is on......
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:01 AM
Nov 2019

...the debate stage, except for those always in the news. Look how awful and downright nasty trump was during the debates..and quantifiably stupid.... and he still won the election. I have my mind made up who i am voting for in the primary but i will support whomever happens to win the nom...so why even watch the debates?

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
2. Debates are now irrelevant
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:19 AM
Nov 2019

With rare exception, debates have little impact now. I don't watch because they are a 10 person shit show. I thin we know where tbese folks stand.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
6. At this point the debates are an opportunity
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:41 AM
Nov 2019

for minor candidates to make paranoid accusations about the DNC.

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rampartc

(5,404 posts)
3. do you really think bloomberg can get to 10%? what is he now?
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:27 AM
Nov 2019

that would indicate a complete dissatisfaction with the rest of the field and a popularity that I just don't believe for Bloomberg.

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dsc

(52,155 posts)
4. No in point of fact I wrote the words I don't think it will happen
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:33 AM
Nov 2019

but the fact is, it could, and if it does it will be hard to justify keeping him off the stage.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. Good point.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:40 AM
Nov 2019

I’ve found the debates to be frustrating. Too many people on stage.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. I think that the goal is for him to siphon votes away from Sanders and Warren.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:09 AM
Nov 2019

Particularly in the early primary states. Throw Deval Patrick into it as well.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. You really think that Bloomberg shares the same pool of supporters
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:44 PM
Nov 2019

like Sanders and Warren? The same Sanders/Warren supporters that would rail against billionaires?
That has become a talking point for some reason and it just doesn't make any sense. It's seems more likely that moderates would be affected by the recent additions you mentioned.

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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
8. the real problem with Bloomberg would be his attempt at running 3rd party AND russian bots
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:13 AM
Nov 2019

coming in to syphon off democratic votes like it did with Stein. Playing this "primary" game with democrats gives him needed exposure around america. The guy is a republican, thru and thru

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dsc

(52,155 posts)
10. He isn't going to do that
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:16 AM
Nov 2019

as much as I don't like his views on some issues and his GOP past, he very much hates Trump and won't do anything to help Trump win.

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BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
12. "And won't do anything to help Trump win."
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

Hmmmm seems like he may be doing that now.

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Iggo

(47,549 posts)
19. He probably hates Trump more than he loves his money.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 03:36 PM
Nov 2019

Probably.

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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
9. I think the rules are pretty fair. Not perfect, but fair.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:15 AM
Nov 2019

Under what you state Bloomberg will not have earned a spot on the state. He knew the rules when he got in. We have seen that the level of support set in the rules seems to be pretty fair.

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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
11. Answer: if Bloomberg gets to 10% he doesn't need the debates...
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
13. Rules are rules...we don't want billionaires buying the nomination.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:05 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
14. If this happens, I will be grateful to see Bloomberg blocked out.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:25 PM
Nov 2019

He knew the rules and he made his choices.

But then again, it may be a strategy for Bloomberg. He appears to want to avoid the normal vetting process.


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dsc

(52,155 posts)
15. It could wind up being problematic for his competitors
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:31 PM
Nov 2019

which is a whole other can of worms.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
16. Yes it could.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:32 PM
Nov 2019
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Undecided
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
18. Tom Perez told reporter Dave Weigel
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 03:30 PM
Nov 2019

...that the debate rules may change once voting starts.

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Amishman

(5,555 posts)
20. Then he qualifies as an 'also ran' instead of a joke
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 06:38 PM
Nov 2019

But he won't get that far

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. What makes you think that? (nt)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:54 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
23. I think Bloomberg can hold his own
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 01:02 PM
Nov 2019

He's no dunce.

I also think that as a candidate he would have a strong appeal to disaffected Republicans and independents. He's an actual real successful businessman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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