It's been what, 25 days since Sen. Sanders said he would "soon" release his full tax returns?

[lunamagica]

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What happened?

Is this his definition of "soon"?

And this is NOT a bash or an attack on the senator. It is a valid question.

[WeekiWater]

1. I wonder how long it takes to process and accept 1040X forms.

Not a tax person.

[mcar]

9. Past returns?

Minutes. Download the PDF from Turbo Tax and voila!

[csziggy]

16. It would take me about an hour to scan forty YEARS worth of paper IRS returns

To PDFs. Except last month I took them all out of the filing cabinet and they are now in our storage unit, so finding the box full of them would take a day or two.

I have a scanner with an automatic document feeder - slap a pile of papers in it and it will happily scan the whole batch into a single PDF. No sweat, no hassle.

[namahage]

18. 1040X forms are for amending previously filed returns.

Gives new meaning to the term “Amendment King”...

[WeekiWater]

24. That is what a 1040X is used for. To correct past returns. NT

[ehrnst]

102. One doesn't need to have them processed to release what one has submitted.

I assume that Sanders has submitted at least up through 2017's returns.

He has more than enough money to afford an accountant, and if one is planning on running for POTUS, I imagine that one hires a professional to make sure that they are in order.

I realize that Trump probably reported different things on his tax returns than he submitted to banks for loans, so I can see why he would be hesitant to release his returns.

I can't imagine that Senator Sanders has anything that is questionable in his tax returns, and I'm puzzled as to his statements that "mechanical issues" are preventing him from releasing his.

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R

[msongs]

3. name another famous politician who says he will release tax returns any day now nt

[trueblue2007]

26. Bernie & Donnie ...... RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS NOW, PLEASE.

[Mr Tibbs]

33. What about Kamala?

She has also only released 1.

[Mr.Bill]

36. So, one more than Bernie Sanders.

[Mr Tibbs]

39. Your answer says everything

About what's really going on here.

[Mr.Bill]

40. You mean stating facts?

[Mr Tibbs]

44. Here's some facts

The following candidates have RELEASED NO RECENT TAX RETURNS PUBLICLY SINCE 2020 ANNOUNCEMENT:
Cory Booker
Pete Buttigieg
Julian Castro
John Delaney
Tulsi Gabbard
Kamala Harris
John Hickenlooper
Jay Inslee
Amy Klobuchar
Wayne Messam
Beto O’Rourke
Bernie Sanders
Donald Trump
Bill Weld
Marianne Williamson

[Mr.Bill]

48. And how many of them were Presidentual candidates

in 2016 and never released them? I have every reason to believe they will all release them. Except those who refused to release them before 2016 primaries.


I don't think there are any smoking guns anywhere, I just want to see them and get this issue behind us.


If a candidate becomes the nominee without releasing them, then how can we continue to demand to see Trump's?

[Mr Tibbs]

53. 2016 ended

He lost, remember? When you lose an election, the obligation to keep campaigning ends with it, even if partisans of the winning candidate don't like it.

How many of them have pledged to release ten years worth?

Just one.

[Mr.Bill]

65. Doesn't matter how many years you pledge to release

if you release none.


And yes, he did lose. Perhaps, among many reasons, he didn't release them before the primaries. We'll never know. I can only tell you it influenced my primary vote.

[Mr Tibbs]

74. You're saying that he's lying and will not be releasing any?

Good luck with that

[Mr.Bill]

95. I did not say that and don't put words into my mouth.

It's been tried by people before and it doesn't work. And since that's the tactic you have chosen, there is no need to continue this discussion. Conversation is over, good day.

[Mr Tibbs]

97. Your words

"Doesn't matter how many years you pledge to release
if you release none"

[Mr.Bill]

98. He released none in 2016. The rest of my post made that context clear.

So far you've put words in my mouth and quoted me out of context. Good day. Conversation is over. I will not argue with someone who uses these tactics.

[George II]

83. Yes, we'll never know about that, but we do know he pledged to do something that he didn't do.

That tells me and many other Americans a lot.

[George II]

73. "Pledging" is one thing, doing is another thing entirely. From past performances we've seen that...

...."pledging" doesn't always work out.

[Mr Tibbs]

75. You're saying he's not going to release them?

Don't invest too much energy in that one ...

[ehrnst]

76. Attacking a Strawman yet again?

Did you find a sale on them?

[Eliot Rosewater]

78. I am so sick of this fucking game that has to be played about someone.

WE dont have the LUXURY of this shit anymore!

America is under ATTACK!

[George II]

77. I'm just going by what we've seen in the past.

[Mr Tibbs]

81. Sure

Like I said, you'd be well advised not to waste a lot of energy on this nonsense

[George II]

85. I'm happy with my life and how I spend my time, no need to advise me how to expend my energy.

[ehrnst]

89. Nonsense? Like falsely claiming that "no other Dem candidate has pledged to release

10 years of tax returns?"

That kind of nonsense?

[ehrnst]

87. Elizabeth Warren has released 10, and Gillibrand has released 11.

The more one repeats a false whataboutism, the less credibility one has.

[Mr Tibbs]

99. Yes, two candidates have released at least 10

[ehrnst]

101. I know. (nt)

[George II]

110. Yep, didn't require a promise from them nor did they put it off for three years.....

....they were up front about it. Plus, Cory Booker has released 15 years leading up to 2013, and most likely will add the latest few in short order.

[blue cat]

177. Amy released 12 years n/t

[blue cat]

127. Except

He said he would, then changed it to after Clinton released hers to he would release after she released her transcripts. Then lied about how much he did put out.
Again, he said he would. It broke my heart because I was so upset about trump not releasing his, and then for the candidate that I already voted for in the primary didn’t follow through. I remember all of it. Shady IMO.

[catbyte]

52. And I see only one democrat who ran for president in 2016 who has failed to do so. That is a problem

[Mr Tibbs]

54. He is the only one who pledged ten years worth

Apparently this rule only applies to him.

What you are saying is you're still fighting the last primary.

[catbyte]

63. Seriously? So when is he going to do it?

[Mr Tibbs]

100. He will do it when he's ready to do it

Just like the rest of the candidates

[ehrnst]

128. See, now that wasn't hard, was it?

Civil, confident, non-defensive, non-accusatory.

You're learning!

[George II]

67. What? Gillibrand released ELEVEN and Warren has released TEN. Where do you get that he....

...is the only one? Of course, you may turn this around and say he's the only one who "pledged" ten years. The other two didn't have to "pledge", the DID it!

[ehrnst]

84. You should learn to google - Warren has pledged 10 years and Gillibrand has actually released 11..

Corey Booker released 15 years when he was asked.

Where are you getting all this faulty information?

[George II]

90. Warren has actually released her last ten years already, months before becoming a candidate...

....that's months before, not three years after.

Booker actually released 15 years a few years ago, no doubt he'll be filling in the gap between then and now fairly quickly. Obviously he has no problems doing so.

[Catch2.2]

61. But Bernie

is the big evil guy that doesn't have a "D" next to his name. Unfortunately a lot of people on this board will not hesitate to attack BS. He is not well liked on DU. This Bernie bashing does not help us at all, but sadly it will continue.

[Cha]

111. BS bashes the Democratic Party..

did you forget that part?

He was out there on TV after the "rigging in" of trump calling my Democratic Party "Elite" and how "humiliated" he was. Making it all about himself.' Calling our Democratic African American Base "Elite" and "Weak" Yeah, BS always has the insults.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/bernie-sanders-humiliated-democrats-loss-working-class-voters/index.html

And, insulting his "opponents" Like This?..

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

[Catch2.2]

113. The video from your link...

Says nothing about the african american base being elite or weak. Please provide a link to that quote.

[Cha]

114. So? I said that.. BS calls the Dem Party "Elite"..

and our Base is African American.. that's who he's insulting as well as people like me.

That's why BS is not liked by so many Dems.. for his own words.

[Catch2.2]

116. Really?

That's your argument? You quoted him saying he called African American's Weak and Elite. Now you're saying that he didn't say that, but since there are African Americans in the Democratic Base, that he is saying they are weak & Elite. Good lord.
And I didn't see anywhere in the video where he called the Dems weak & elite.

[Cha]

117. I'm saying he insulted our Dem Party which is

made up of African Americans who are our base.

That's what he said.. you can deny it all you want. But the facts speak for themselves. We have a huge tent and BS broad brushes us all with his insulting Buzz words.. "elite" "weak" "establishment".

All to build himself up.. it's backfiring on his constant haranguing.

[Catch2.2]

118. Facts?

Please post the link where he calls African Americans "Weak & Elite" as you claim.

[Cha]

119. 'My Opponents' Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates 'Regardless of What They Stand Fo

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

[Catch2.2]

121. I don't see anywhere

in your quote where BS called African Americans "Weak & Elite".

Please provide a link to where he said this, as you claim.

[ehrnst]

140. Yep. It's like telling a new Latina co-worker: "To say, I'm a Latina, give me a raise

and a promotion" is not enough. You will actually have earn it."

That statement assumes that it will be a problem, and your co-worker would have a valid complaint to HR.

[ehrnst]

133. "D" like the one in Democratic Underground?

You seem to have a lot of problems with that "D."

Are you sure you're in the right place?

[Catch2.2]

134. Yes

I am a huge supporter of the Democratic party, but I am not a blind follower.

[ehrnst]

135. So if people don't agree with all your many, many criticisms and complaints of the Democratic Party

and Democratic leaders, they are "blind followers."

A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option. A false dilemma can arise intentionally, when a fallacy is used in an attempt to force a choice or outcome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[Catch2.2]

136. No

I never said that. Please show where I said that people need to agree with ALL my criticisms, or any for that matter?
As a matter of fact, I had someone question whether I should be on this Forum because I have criticized the Democratic party. Let me make one thing clear, my criticism is meant to be constructive. If the Party platform wasn't in support of gay marriage, I would be against it and would argue my point. If I believe that there should be a Single Payer option, I will express my views and encourage the Dem party to go that route. If the Dems were against Single Payer, I won't just say "OK" just because that is the Dem platform. If there is a candidate running for president, I will listen to what their stance is on the issues. I have seen horrible candidates that had a "D" next to their name. With that being said, the worse Democrat is still better than a republican!

[ehrnst]

138. Yes, you stated that duality - your critiques vs "blind follower."

That was the false dillema.

Is that clearer?

But you may have a point - it could also have been attacking a strawman, attempting to portray someone who points out that one is very critical of the Democratic party as a "blind follower."

[Catch2.2]

143. I'm sorry

I'm still waiting for you to point out where I said that people need to agree with ALL my criticisms? Secondly, I was criticized for questioning the Democratic Party. I am merely stating that I do not blindly follow a party. Just because someone has a "D" next to their name doesn't necessarily mean they are automatically a good candidate. I hope I clarified things for you.

[ehrnst]

145. You presented the duality that those who disagree with you are "blind followers."

That you are the definition of reason, and to be other is to be a "blind follower." Go back and read the question you were responding to when you said that you weren't a "blind follower."

Just because someone has a "D" next to their name doesn't necessarily mean they are automatically a good candidate.

No one here is stating that, so that's attacking a straw man, in addition to a false dillema.

I will agree that when certain individual Democratic POTUS candidates (who run for POTUS with a "D" next to their name) and certain House reps with a "D" next to their name are critiqued/vetted in even themost basic ways, or even simply fact checked, their fans will go on the offensive in their defense, and accuse those doing any critiquing or fact checking of "hate," or "corporate-funded attacks" rather than clear-eyed observations of human beings in political life. That's happened to me, in fact, so one can't simply dismiss me, even in a backhanded way, as a "blind follower" for pointing out that you do far more than the average amount of criticizing and slamming of the Democratic Party here on DU.

Does that clarifiy things for you?

[Catch2.2]

156. No

I will not blindly follow a party. If I think a party should have a different stance on something, I will try and encourage the party to go in that direction. Hypothetically, let's just say the Democratic party was against Gay Marriage. I would voice my opinion that I believe in Gay Marriage. I may voice my opinion on here, I may contact my local Rep, I may email the head of the party. I enjoy having a debate on issues as there are times where I am persuaded and my mind changed, other times it's not. I just don't feel that the sole reason one should vote for someone is because of what letter they have next to their name. I will look at the candidate and their stance on the issues, not what letter is next to their name. Plain and simple.

Btw, I'm still waiting for someone to show me where I said that people need to agree with ALL my criticisms.

[betsuni]

146. "blind follower"

[George II]

70. So? Each of them that you claim haven't done so just recently announced, unlike the one....

....you're making excuses for, who promised he'd do so three years ago, and still hasn't followed through with that promise. Want to see the video of Jane promising to do so on national television?

Besides, one of them, Kamala Harris, has released a more recent return than Sanders, and I see you blithely pass over both Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren, who each released 10 (or more) many months before they announced.

[ehrnst]

92. That's a whole lotta Whataboutism right there.

Parents of elementary school aged children are familiar with this.

You ask one child why they haven't finished cleaning their room by the time they said they would, and the child immediately whines that their sibling hasn't finished their chores EITHER!!!

And you sigh, and you say, "That's not what I asked, is it?"

Usually that child is sheepish and says, "No, it isn't" and doesn't keep digging themselves deeper into a hole by continuing to try to avoid the actual issue.

[Mr Tibbs]

103. Hypocrisy

Don't do as I do...

[ehrnst]

129. Copy and Paste one word subject.

I can do that, too!

[R B Garr]

132. Hypocrisy is when you call others out for lack of transparency

but you are not transparent yourself. It’s been years now. We know who is being hypocritical.

[Cha]

115. Haha.. great example of "Whataboutism",

ehrnst!

[trueblue2007]

49. what about her. She didn't tell us years ago, she would produce them. Bernie did.

And stop deflecting !!!!!

[George II]

69. What is your obsession with Kamala Harris? You've been going from thread to thread...

...saying pretty much the same thing.

Look at it this way, when SHE ran for Senate she released the prior year. She didn't wait three years before doing so, and she didn't "skip" a year to release an older year. She ran in 2016, she released 2015.

So let me ask your question, "what about Bernie?"

[dalton99a]

4. Could be Technical Difficulties

Please Stand By

[George II]

91. "Mechanical issues".

[ehrnst]

94. I know... is there a mimeograph involved? (nt)

[Power 2 the People]

5. Sanders supporters want this as much as you do.

This issue needs to be put to rest once and for all.

[lunamagica]

7. Thank you for this reply. Good to see a supporter posting this. It's been long enough

[Devil Child]

10. +1 Power 2 the People!

I have tremendous respect for Sen. Sanders and am annoyed his team is letting this fester. I believe the returns will show nothing "concerning" or damaging but the longer this drags out the more his campaign opponents benefit.

[Devil Child]

6. For those invested in seeing Sen. Sander's tax returns

What are you hoping to find? Is there a belief that some evidence of corruption will be unearthed that removes him from the race?

This is beginning to strike me as similar to the rhetoric being used when crying out BIRTH CERTIFICATE or EMAILS!

My prediction is that if and when Sen. Sanders finally releases them it will be quite underwhelming.

[lunamagica]

11. It is just a question of trasparency. he has been dragging his feel and giving excuses for years now

If it's underwhelming, why not just get it over with?

[Devil Child]

14. I can't disagree with that stance at all lunamagica

It is best to get this addressed early in the game especially with the assurances they would be released(last month?).

Thanks for the reply

[lunamagica]

15. ...

[mcar]

12. They very well may be underwhelming

Which makes his continuing reluctance to release them even worse. He's harming his campaign.

[Mr Tibbs]

34. When he releases them

IT will be instantly forgotten. Especially by the folks so heavily invested in same.

[George II]

72. Perhaps not. They may reveal things that contradict the policy positions...

...that he's been talking about for years.

We already know, from his Senate personal financial disclosures, that he has as much as $1M or even more invested in big, bad "Wall Street". How can a person rail against the financial industry and "Wall Street" for years and still support them with his investment dollars.

There may be more, which is precisely why Americans want to see the tax returns of their potential candidates.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

152. One can want to reform the financial industry and still invest money.

He would be an idiot if he didn't have money invested for retirement. You can't seriously think that "He thinks Wall Street and banking needs to be regulated more but HE HAS MONEY IN BANKS AND STOCKS" is a good argument, can you? That's like crappy high school debate right there.

[George II]

154. Yes I seriously do think that, and I won many high school debates. Don't see the connection.

His statements over the years go further than merely "reforming the financial industry". Why would one support an industry of which one is highly critical?

It's similar to be continually railing against Amazon and Walmart all while selling products through those two organizations.

[ehrnst]

130. But Bernie claimed very recently that he hasn't been criticized...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=7221

Who's wrong? You or Bernie?

[LongtimeAZDem]

20. It's now an issue of integrity, more than the returns themselves.

He and his surrogates have, repeatedly, promised that he would release them "soon".

This has been going on for years; so, at this point, it has turned into evidence that his word is worthless.

[dsc]

30. No it isn't and it is beyond offensive to pretend it is

Every President in my lifetime (51 years) with the exception of LBJ and Trump released his tax returns. Zero, count it zero Presidents were asked for birth certificates until the first black one. On top of that Sanders promised not once, not twice, not thrice, but on countless occasions to release these only to not follow through. I don't recall Obama promising even once without following through (nor should he have promised a birth certificate). To compare a request that is so reasonable that it has been fullfilled by Nixon, Ford. Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama with a request that was on its face racist is pure filth.

[Devil Child]

32. Your understandably strong feelings on this may have clouded your interpretation of my post

There is often a trend here to respond with "tax returns" to anything regarding Sen. Sanders. This pattern strikes me as similar to the tendency to patterns seen towards President Obama with throwing out a response of "birth certificate" or towards Clinton with "emails" by their respective opponents. The behavior and rhetoric is the same to me though the situations are drastically different.

[Mr Tibbs]

35. Bill Clinton didn't release any until his second year in office

And then only because he was pressured to do so.

[dsc]

46. flat out gold carat false

Running for president 12 years later, Bill Clinton released a dozen years’ worth of tax returns. He stopped just short of the year in which he and his wife had reported her spectacular gains. The couple and the campaign refused to explain why the release of tax returns didn’t go back further. Nosing around, Jeff Gerth followed the trail to Red Bone, Jim Blair, and the windfall they had bestowed on Hillary. To explain the $98,000 profit, Clinton spokesmen said Hillary had handled the trades according to information she gleaned from her daily reading of the Wall Street Journal. Hillary herself spoke of how much she had learned as a little girl reading the financial pages of the Chicago Tribune with her father. And the spokesmen pointed out that no reporter or investigator had found a—here’s the familiar phrase—quid pro quo among Tyson Foods, Jim Blair, the first lady, and the governor.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/andrew-ferguson/the-hillary-paradox

Now clearly this is an anti Clinton source but even they say he released a dozen (that is more than 10 in case you are unsure of that) while running for President (that is before 1994 in case you are unsure of that). Shame on you for telling such a blatant falsehood about Clinton to justify the unjustifyable.

[George II]

71. That's almost 30 years ago. Are you going go further back and point to FDR, DDE, Herbert Hoover....

....even George Washington, too?

[dsc]

106. and they out and out lied to boot

Clinton released not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven, not eight, not nine, not ten, not eleven, but twelve count it twelve years of tax returns not in 1994, not in 1993, but while he was campaigning. That poster out and out lied about Clinton in order to try to justify the undefensible.

[Cha]

124. Thank You for explaining the Big Difference

to him so eloquently, dsc.

[Mr.Bill]

38. What are we hoping to find?

Facts.

[Devil Child]

42. Facts to support which conclusion? n/t

[Mr.Bill]

45. A factual conclusion.

I for one, don't want any unnecessary surprises after I vote in the primaries. If everything looks good, I want to know before the primary vote in my state.

[Devil Child]

57. Sensible request to me Mr. Bill

Thanks for the response.

[TexasTowelie]

62. Is there any connection between Jane Sanders and Old Towne Media?

Nepotism is unethical and the Sanders/Driscolls family have other known instances of nepotism.

[mac56]

68. "Are there instances of nepotism? I dunno. But that's what some people are saying."

Sounds familiar.

[TexasTowelie]

88. Here are a couple that were mentioned::

Burlington College contracting with Jane's daughtet, Carina Driscoll, to run a wood-workinlg shop while Jane was president. While the board of trustees approved the decision and it was legal to do so, it doesn't pass the smell test.

Hiring Jane's son, David Driscoll, to run the Sanders Institute at $100K when he had no prior experience running a non-profit.

Both were sweetheart deals.

The issue with Old Towne Media is whether campaign donations were converted into personal income. The tax returns will shed some light on the subject.

[George II]

80. The same things people have expected to find and have found in others' returns.....

....not that there's anything illegal in them, but perhaps we'll see things that contradict what he, or any candidate for that matter, has been espousing for years.

Otherwise, why have virtually all candidates been asked to, and have released their income taxes? Prurient interest?

[Cha]

123. It's Obviously about Transparency.. if

BS has nothing to hide then show his Full Tax Returns.

It isn't rocket science.

[mcar]

8. It is a valid question

He made the promise. It's past time for him to deliver.

[sheshe2]

13. Good question. nt

[NurseJackie]

17. It's shows great disrespect to the American voters who deserve to know whether...

It's shows great disrespect to the American voters who deserve to know whether the person they're voting for is honest and ethical or not. Voters need to know how a candidate is making their money and where it's coming from. Are the taxes being paid on time? Are there questionable write-offs or deductions? Where is it being invested? Where is it being saved (domestic banks or "off shore" banks)?

When any candidate withholds the information, it's perfectly natural and quite logical to assume that he (or she) is hiding something and that he (or she) has made a calculated, and cynical, decision that the fallout from NOT releasing their full tax returns is probably better than the fallout that may happen if they DO release the tax returns.

[getagrip_already]

19. by soon, he means never.....

First it will be delays, then he will say he doesn't want to release his until trump does so first, then after the election, then he will never do it.

Been there, seen it already. He is our trump. Why should we believe he will behave any differently.

[Mr Tibbs]

37. Of course!

It's intentional political suicide! How didn't I see it before!!

[mac56]

56. I'm with you.

Golly, how could I have been so blind?!

[getagrip_already]

96. his goal has never been to just get the nomination..

His goal has been to get the nomination and destroy the party.

He doesn't even care as much about winning the election as he does destroying the party.

So the fact that he will never disclose his taxes doesn't matter to him. He can stonewall and still have a chance at the nomination, but being attacked for not releasing them is even better for him, because he can claim the "party" is anti-democratic and needs to be shut down.

If you can't be accepted by it, destroy it. EVERYTHING he did in 2015 until now supports that.

And we still don't have them. He needs to disclose 2005 on, no matter when he releases them, because the dirt is probably before 2010.

[MyOwnPeace]

21. I'll bet......

it's the next folder under IQ45's - you know, "I'll release it as soon as I can - I'm being audited."

[Politicub]

22. He's not going to release his tax returns

Otherwise he already would have done it. Why drag it out?

[awesomerwb1]

23. WhY ArE YoU GuYs being so impatient!!!!!!!

He said SOON not ZOOM!!!!

[lunamagica]

25. Love it!

[cwydro]

59. Lol.

[Funtatlaguy]

27. He should release them the same day

that Biden announces or Muellers report goes to the DOJ. Won’t get as much coverage then.

[redstateblues]

28. Like Trump, he's hoping we'll forget

[we can do it]

29. He's too busy hiring people to trash actual Democrats.

[KitSileya]

31. I want to know if he's going to be this feckless with his FEC filings too.

I mean, he seems dead set on not being transparent about the money he gets, why should we be surprised if he dodges his donation info too? Will he file for endless extensions again? Is this the way he would handle budget matters in the White House? Is he incapable of handling money matters and paperwork concerning the money coming his way?

[R B Garr]

131. Exactly! And this is why the donations in general don't mean

as much. When there is no transparency and no accountability, it could be a bunch of foreigners trying to cause havoc. I still have so many questions about Tad Devine, for instance...

[Rural_Progressive]

41. I'll see your "release you tax returns" before you can be an official candidate for POTUS

and raise you the need to be able to receive a security clearance as well.

[Skidmore]

43. Geez, your title

prompted "Nothing Compares to You" to loop in my brain. That alone could get me to righteously rant about the meaning of "soon".

[MyNameGoesHere]

47. 25 Days, 25 Years.

The Independent - VT Senator is very busy. He'll get around to it, eventually. Maybe. Perhaps. One day soon. It's coming I tells ya. Next weekmonthyeardecadecentury or so.

[Hekate]

50. It is indeed a valid question

[keithbvadu2]

51. Maybe every year of them is still 'under audit'?

Maybe every year of them is still 'under audit'?

[still_one]

55. He has had two years to get it together

[NurseJackie]

66. His defenders seem to believe it was a "last minute" and "spur of the moment" decision to run...

His defenders seem to believe it was a "last minute" and "spur of the moment" decision to run... when clearly, nothing could be further from the truth.

He's known since Trump won that he was going to run again. He's had YEARS to prepare and get things in order.

He and his current wife, Jane, have absolutely NO intention of releasing the full tax returns.

It's an insult to the American voters.

[still_one]

86. Agreed

[mac56]

58. Ah yes, the Daily Dogpile on Bernie.

[NurseJackie]

64. Nobody is doing that.

[ehrnst]

105. You mean someone making an observation that isn't praise?

That happens when you run for POTUS and get vetted. No execptions this year.

You may want to get used to it, or you will be very stressed in the coming months.

[mac56]

108. Yes yes yes. That's precisely what I mean.

How intuitive of you.

Good God. It's like bleeding in front of sharks.

[Cha]

126. I can't understand why? with all the 3rd party

"attack dog" hires BS has added to his already divisive campaign.

Sanders Promised Civility but Hired Twitter Attack Dog - The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

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Oh here she is as troll harassing John Lewis.

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[Cha]

125. Ah NO. The Daily Vetting on BS. He's

running for POTUS, doncha know.

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[BannonsLiver]

149. What do you care, you're a Harris supporter.

[mac56]

150. Oh damn. I thought I was entitled to independent opinions.

Silly me.

[BannonsLiver]

151. Yes, it is silly

Silly to claim support of one candidate while passionately defending her chief rival in his refusal to release his taxes. Silly indeed.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

153. If you support one candidate, you must be for the death of every other candidate.

How is that unknown to people, right?

for the impaired.

[mac56]

155. Get over yourself.

[Tarc]

60. "releace"

There's things to criticize Bernie for, but the tax thing seems rather silly. Trumpkins is a different ballpark entirely, as he has a demonstrable wall of falsehoods built around his ill-gotten wealth.

[lunamagica]

107. Ooops, sorry for the typo. Fixed it

[doc03]

82. I could release my tax returns in 25 seconds. nt

[Clash City Rocker]

104. All I will say is this

I won’t vote for anyone who doesn’t release all his taxes for the last five years, at least, by the time of my state’s primary. That includes a candidate for whom I would otherwise vote; it isn’t a matter of politics. Obama was asked for two birth certificates, and although that had never been asked of any other president, he provided them, because he had nothing to hide. I want a candidate who has nothing to hide to go against Trump, because we can’t risk a second Trump term just because one candidate shares our politics more than others.

[Cha]

109. This is from February 26 2019, 11:33am EST

Sanders says he will release 10 years of tax returns 'soon'

https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-will-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-soon

It's a valid question in the BS vetting process..

Mahalo, Luna!

[Starry Messenger]

112. I'm old enough to remember when people wanted politicians to keep their promises

Doesn't bode well that this one is dragging his feet on a simple task he promised to perform

[helpisontheway]

120. He is hiding something...nt

[betsuni]

122. I wonder if Sanders is worried that if people know he's wealthy they'll get mad.

Nobody will care, though (except Socialists, but they're always complaining about something).

His message is based on a revolution of people demanding the government represent them and not campaign contributors and big money interests; America will be transformed when money is taken out of politics because politicians (who are all corrupt) will finally be free to pass progressive legislation.

If your whole ideology is based on money corrupting everyone, I can see where money details would make you nervous.

[BlueFlorida]

137. Everyone is waiting

and as each day goes by, whatever he ultimately releases will not be credible.

[Gothmog]

139. From Jennifer Rubin

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[MH1]

141. Has he ever made a statement about Trump releasing his returns?

Is it hypocrisy or does Sanders openly assert that presidential candidates should not be required to do this?

[lunamagica]

142. Sanders has a different standard for other candidates. he demands transparency from everyone but him

[ehrnst]

148. Jeff Weaver has, while speaking for Sanders. (nt)

[MH1]

162. So, hypocrisy then. Got it. nt.

[ehrnst]

164. By objective standards, yes. (nt)

[Aaron Pereira]

144. He should release them now.

If there's something he needs to explain revealing it early in the campaign is the best time. Rip off the band-aid if that's the case.

[ehrnst]

147. Nearly a month now. (nt)

[Gothmog]

157. Is it soon yet?

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[Gothmog]

158. Kirsten Gillibrand released her 2018 tax returns on Wednesday

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[R B Garr]

159. Kick for Sanders tax returns.

[Cha]

160. Yeah, when BS releases

the Full 10 years of Tax Returns for Full Transparency. we'll stop kicking.

[R B Garr]

166. Exactly, Cha!

Transparency. Show us the tax returns.

[Gothmog]

161. Inslee, a 2020 presidential hopeful, released his tax returns this morning.

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[WeekiWater]

165. They are now downplaying it to four handpicked years of returns.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=41768

[Cha]

167. "coming soon".. yeah right.

[Gothmog]

168. I am confused. Is sanders redacting his returns?

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[highplainsdem]

169. Well, he said this morning that they just have to dot the I's and cross the T's,

so I guess we'll probably see the returns some time this millennium.

Tweet from Face The Nation, with video:

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[MarcA]

170. So he has no investments at all? n/t

[Gothmog]

171. Another candidate releases their tax returns

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[Gothmog]

172. Washington Post-Enough with the excuses. It's time for Sanders to release his tax returns.

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It has been more than a month since Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) told a national audience during a CNN town hall that he would release 10 years of his personal taxes “soon,” adding, “We have to do just a few little more things.” Five weeks later, it seems those “little” things still aren’t done; he told CBS on Sunday that “we have it all done and it’s just a question of dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s.”

Enough with the excuses, Senator. These sorts of shenanigans — and make no mistake, that’s exactly what they are at this point — both reduce the pressure on cowardly congressional Democrats to pursue President Trump’s personal and corporate tax returns, and endanger Democrats’ hopes of taking back the presidency in 2020. The progressive positions that Sanders champions, including Medicare-for-all, expanded Social Security and increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, are much too important to both the future of our country and our own personal finances to risk them over tax returns.

Trump broke with decades of precedent in refusing to make his tax returns public when he was running for president. The result? Not only don’t we know our president’s net worth, we also have little idea how he earned his fortune or how he makes his money now. Minus his paperwork, it’s hard to determine whether Trump is using the White House as a just-in-time moneymaking opportunity, violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution, and/or even paying his fair share of taxes at all.

[lunamagica]

173. Thanks, Gothmog. But I think this deserves its own thread

[Gothmog]

174. From the Hoarse Whisperer

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[Gothmog]

175. Bernie Sanders is "providing political cover" for Donald Trump not releasing his tax returns

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[lunamagica]

176. Indeed he is. Release them or drop out, Sanders