
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:10 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
Interesting results
Two days ago I posted a simple question on this board to supporters of Biden, Warren, Sanders and Buttigieg (the top 4) as well as Undecideds: "Will you enthusiastically support the Democratic party nominee regardless of who it is?"
Counting only direct responses to my OPs by the supporters of those candidates who answered Yes, the results are as follows: Biden: 21 Undecided: 9 Warren: 7 Sanders: 4 Buttigieg: 3 Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions from these results.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Author | Time | Post |
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Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | OP |
Sherman A1 | Dec 2019 | #1 | |
MineralMan | Dec 2019 | #2 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #6 | |
MineralMan | Dec 2019 | #13 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #15 | |
MineralMan | Dec 2019 | #16 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #19 | |
Blue_true | Dec 2019 | #43 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #44 | |
SCantiGOP | Dec 2019 | #12 | |
MineralMan | Dec 2019 | #14 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #35 | |
Post removed | Dec 2019 | #3 | |
demmiblue | Dec 2019 | #5 | |
vsrazdem | Dec 2019 | #9 | |
demmiblue | Dec 2019 | #4 | |
tblue37 | Dec 2019 | #29 | |
Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2019 | #37 | |
pfeiffer | Dec 2019 | #7 | |
abqtommy | Dec 2019 | #8 | |
progree | Dec 2019 | #10 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #11 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Dec 2019 | #17 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #18 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Dec 2019 | #20 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #21 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Dec 2019 | #24 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #25 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Dec 2019 | #26 | |
mahina | Dec 2019 | #28 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #31 | |
tblue37 | Dec 2019 | #30 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #32 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2019 | #33 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #34 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #36 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #38 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #39 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #40 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2019 | #41 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #42 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #45 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #46 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #49 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #50 | |
blm | Dec 2019 | #51 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #52 | |
Merlot | Dec 2019 | #53 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #54 | |
left-of-center2012 | Dec 2019 | #22 | |
Autumn | Dec 2019 | #23 | |
mahina | Dec 2019 | #27 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2019 | #47 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #48 | |
MerryBlooms | Dec 2019 | #55 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #56 | |
MerryBlooms | Dec 2019 | #57 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #58 |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:14 PM
Sherman A1 (38,958 posts)
1. Kinda tells me
nothing,
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:19 PM
MineralMan (144,945 posts)
2. My conclusion is that your question in those posts is pretty ridiculous.
Nobody on DU is going to answer no to that question. That would violate DU's TOS. So, your survey is meaningless, really.
Several people told you that when you asked the questions, but you paid no attention. So, your totals above are as meaningless as your question was. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
6. Not meaningless
It is interesting to see who's supporters were willing to respond as well as how many were threatened by it.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #6)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:33 PM
MineralMan (144,945 posts)
13. Not really. Most people, like myself, didn't respond, because the question is
silly. The only acceptable answer here is yes, I'll vote for the nominee. That's how the vast majority of DUers will vote. That's how the vast majority of DUers voted in 2016. Those who decided otherwise are mostly no longer here.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:39 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
15. Only silly
to those threatened by the question.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #15)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:41 PM
MineralMan (144,945 posts)
16. Yah, OK, then. Real good, then.
I'm done.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:46 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
19. Buh-bye
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #6)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:11 PM
Blue_true (31,261 posts)
43. Seems that your analysis is open ended.
I answered as I always do, I plan to support the democratic nominee 100%. Some people may not prefer to answer such a question before a single vote is cast.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Blue_true (Reply #43)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:12 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
44. Very true
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:32 PM
SCantiGOP (13,052 posts)
12. yes, meaningless
it probably relates somewhat to the number of supporters each candidate has, but in any event the sample is way, way too small to indicate any trend.
I could walk down the street in my neighborhood, talk to the same number of people as this 'poll,' and deduce that Trump is going to get 70-80% of the vote in 2020. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #12)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:36 PM
MineralMan (144,945 posts)
14. Besides, DUers are not at all representative of Democratic voters
in general. We have self-selected to join this forum. We are not typical.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:54 PM
blm (110,723 posts)
35. Thank you MineralMan. It was not relevant to DU and many
of us let him know.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:21 PM
demmiblue (35,238 posts)
5. ...
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Post removed (Reply #3)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:25 PM
vsrazdem (2,144 posts)
9. Bullshit, that is not a survey and tells you nothing about Sanders and Warren supporters, and
if you are drawing your conclusions from that garbage, that says a lot.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:21 PM
demmiblue (35,238 posts)
4. I don't draw any conclusion from this.
99% of us here will vote for the Dem candidate.
I didn't respond because I thought it was a stupid question. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to demmiblue (Reply #4)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:22 PM
tblue37 (57,242 posts)
29. Same here. Of course I will vote for our nominee--but I didn't bother to respond
to the thread he posted.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to demmiblue (Reply #4)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:13 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (25,413 posts)
37. Same here.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
pfeiffer (280 posts)
7. I think it's a
GREAT question.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:23 PM
abqtommy (14,118 posts)
8. "Interesting results" for interesting times. I took part in your original op/poll. Since I had no
expectations or pre-conceptions I haven't been surprised. I haven't changed my position and perhaps
the best outcome of all this is that it occupies us who participated for a little while and keeps us out of other trouble. That's not a bad thing. Oh, and it shows support for the saying "In diversity there is strength", 'cause we're gonna pound those reTHUGS into the ground! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:28 PM
progree (9,997 posts)
10. Some of this is because some candidates have more supporters than others on DU
so you would also expect candidates with more supporters to have made more responses, simply because there's more people to respond.
That explanation seems to fit some of what you are showing, but definitely not all! e.g. Warren has 21/15 = 1.4 times the number of supporters than Biden does on DU ... but 1/3 the number of positive responses to your question ... OTOH I don't tend to think of Warren or her supporters as the types who would not enthusiastically support the eventual Democratic Party nominee, especially relative to the supporters of other candidates. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to progree (Reply #10)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:30 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
11. Very true
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:43 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,664 posts)
17. I don't think it means much at all.
For one thing, indicating that you will not support the nominee violates DU's TOS, so who's going to admit that? It might be that some people (me included) chose not to answer because of course I'll support the nominee or I wouldn't be here.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #17)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:45 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
18. Never expected anyone to say no
But it is interesting to see how many were willing to answer yes.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #18)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:47 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,664 posts)
20. Why respond to a poll that has only one valid answer?
That's why I didn't bother. Others might have felt the same way.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #20)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
21. Yet some had no problem answering yes
And others were threatened by the question. Interesting.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #21)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:49 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,664 posts)
24. I don't think it means anything at all
except that some people thought it was a pointless poll and others didn't.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #24)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:54 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
25. That's up to you
Everyone is free to form their own conclusions.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #25)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:54 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,664 posts)
26. Exactly my point.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #21)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:17 PM
mahina (15,999 posts)
28. I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that anyone was threatened
That’s a big assumption. You know they say
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mahina (Reply #28)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:41 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
31. Yes it is
When some aggressively push back on a simple question.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #21)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:25 PM
tblue37 (57,242 posts)
30. Not bothering to take time to respond doesn't mean I felt "threatened" by the question. It
just means I had other things to spend my time on.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to tblue37 (Reply #30)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:43 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
32. Not referring to those that didn't respond
But to some who pushed back on a simple question.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #32)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:52 PM
ChubbyStar (3,191 posts)
33. Maybe they weren't pushing back on the question
But something else.....
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #33)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:53 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
34. No
They were pushing back on the question and were very defensive about it. Make you wonder why.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #34)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:07 PM
blm (110,723 posts)
36. Because I'm a GOP mole who's been working undercover here
for almost 20 years before you outed me as a troll with your brilliant maneuvering.
You caught me...and some of my other hidden co-moles. Damn. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to blm (Reply #36)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:39 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
38. Why so defensive?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #38)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:46 PM
blm (110,723 posts)
39. As you said we have something to hide. Or, we HAD till
you cleverly exposed us.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to blm (Reply #39)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:58 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
40. Still so defensive
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #40)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:21 PM
ChubbyStar (3,191 posts)
41. Has it ever occured to you Jim, that some posters might not like your stye?
Might explain the push back. Just saying.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #41)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:03 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
42. Just asked a simple question
Many had no problem with it, some did. Says more about them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #40)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:07 PM
blm (110,723 posts)
45. Nah - just finding humor in this
at this point.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to blm (Reply #45)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:58 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
46. Sounds defensive
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #46)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:58 AM
blm (110,723 posts)
49. Nah. Laughing at this point.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to blm (Reply #49)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:08 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
50. Sure
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #50)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:09 AM
blm (110,723 posts)
51. Yup. REAL sure.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to blm (Reply #51)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:15 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
52. Right
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #18)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:39 AM
Merlot (9,360 posts)
53. It isn't "interesting" it's divisive. The question was meant to be divisive as
is the "results."
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Merlot (Reply #53)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:41 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
54. No it wasn't
And it is not divisive to those that want to see any Dem beat Trump.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
left-of-center2012 (34,195 posts)
22. "Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions from these results"
I suspect many didn't care.
Similar posts have appeared here a number of times, and I'm guessing many didn't "vote" because it was ignored. Rhetorical questions often get passed over ---> In my humble opinion. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
Autumn (42,304 posts)
23. The conclusion I came to is a lot of Sanders supporters ignored your poll. Along with
most of the supporters of all the candidates. About half the board is Undecided and you got 9 votes.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:12 PM
mahina (15,999 posts)
27. I went down a wormhole after reading your post
Meant to post in your thread in the affirmative though there have been many of these as mentioned above only one answer doesn’t break the TOS.
I was looking for the Indivisible pledge which I remember I signed. Elizabeth did, Beto did too. No I can’t find the signatories among the primary contenders. Does anyone else know? Did Joe and Bernie and Amy sign? I’m guessing that they all did and hoping very much so too. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:08 AM
brooklynite (84,449 posts)
47. My conclusion is that there's no conclusion to draw...
You didn't even get 50 responses.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #47)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:29 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
48. Fair enough
As I said everyone is free to draw their own conclusions
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:57 AM
MerryBlooms (11,257 posts)
55. That question has been asked countless times in one form or another...
I answered it several months ago, I feel no need to answer the same question repeatedly. My guess is many others feel the same way and didn't bother, so I don't think your results have any significant meaning.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #55)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
56. Fine
You are free to interpret as you wish.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #56)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:29 PM
MerryBlooms (11,257 posts)
57. Gee golly, thanks much!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #57)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:43 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
58. You're welcome
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |