
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:05 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
Could everyone please stop attacking other candidates
Everyone has their preferred candidate. I get that. But everyone needs to stop attacking their opponents. That only helps Trump and the Republicans.
Right now their are several posts on this board attacking Sanders. A few attacking Biden. And some more attacking the other candidates. This really needs to stop. One of these candidates will be our nominee. Attacks like these will only create bitterness among supporters of other candidates and we need to be fully united to beat Trump. So please, please stop with all the attacks and negative posts.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | OP |
SCVDem | Dec 2019 | #1 | |
LongtimeAZDem | Dec 2019 | #2 | |
Aquaria | Dec 2019 | #18 | |
crazytown | Dec 2019 | #55 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Dec 2019 | #3 | |
mikeysnot | Dec 2019 | #29 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Dec 2019 | #42 | |
mikeysnot | Dec 2019 | #43 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Dec 2019 | #47 | |
mikeysnot | Jan 2020 | #59 | |
BluNoMatterHu | Dec 2019 | #33 | |
Qutzupalotl | Dec 2019 | #4 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #6 | |
CousinIT | Dec 2019 | #5 | |
djg21 | Dec 2019 | #7 | |
gab13by13 | Dec 2019 | #10 | |
LongtimeAZDem | Dec 2019 | #11 | |
Aquaria | Dec 2019 | #14 | |
Mars and Minerva | Dec 2019 | #20 | |
LiberalLovinLug | Dec 2019 | #30 | |
TruckFump | Dec 2019 | #8 | |
Sloumeau | Dec 2019 | #9 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Dec 2019 | #12 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2019 | #13 | |
Aquaria | Dec 2019 | #15 | |
Perseus | Dec 2019 | #17 | |
Perseus | Dec 2019 | #16 | |
Moral Compass | Dec 2019 | #19 | |
dansolo | Jan 2020 | #58 | |
Mars and Minerva | Dec 2019 | #21 | |
AtheistCrusader | Dec 2019 | #22 | |
McKim | Dec 2019 | #23 | |
radical noodle | Dec 2019 | #24 | |
Dream Girl | Dec 2019 | #25 | |
amuse bouche | Dec 2019 | #26 | |
Skittles | Dec 2019 | #45 | |
amuse bouche | Dec 2019 | #52 | |
Skittles | Dec 2019 | #54 | |
David__77 | Dec 2019 | #27 | |
Grasswire2 | Dec 2019 | #28 | |
yaesu | Dec 2019 | #31 | |
defacto7 | Dec 2019 | #35 | |
calimary | Dec 2019 | #32 | |
DENVERPOPS | Dec 2019 | #34 | |
JudyM | Dec 2019 | #41 | |
Joe941 | Dec 2019 | #36 | |
dansolo | Jan 2020 | #72 | |
Joe941 | Jan 2020 | #74 | |
Aaron Pereira | Dec 2019 | #37 | |
LanternWaste | Dec 2019 | #38 | |
defacto7 | Dec 2019 | #39 | |
JudyM | Dec 2019 | #49 | |
thisaintright | Dec 2019 | #40 | |
Skittles | Dec 2019 | #44 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Dec 2019 | #46 | |
Tipperary | Jan 2020 | #56 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #57 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jan 2020 | #61 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #62 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jan 2020 | #63 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #66 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jan 2020 | #67 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #68 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jan 2020 | #69 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #70 | |
Post removed | Jan 2020 | #71 | |
marble falls | Dec 2019 | #48 | |
betsuni | Dec 2019 | #50 | |
True Blue American | Dec 2019 | #51 | |
SidDithers | Dec 2019 | #53 | |
brooklynite | Jan 2020 | #60 | |
LongtimeAZDem | Jan 2020 | #64 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #65 | |
myohmy2 | Jan 2020 | #73 | |
Dem4Life1102 | Jan 2020 | #75 | |
Prosper | Jan 2020 | #76 | |
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
SCVDem (5,103 posts)
1. The attacks are coming from
Inside the campaigns!
Our personal opinions should be posted as such but most are attributed to staffers or candidates. We didn't learn much from 2016 I guess. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:12 AM
LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)
2. I agree with you for most of our candiates, however one of them has a senior staff dedicated
to making venomous attacks on the rest, and the party in general.
As long as that candidate maintains that strategy, they are fair game, IMO. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #2)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:20 PM
Aquaria (1,076 posts)
18. It's more than one, truth be known.
N M
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:57 PM
crazytown (7,277 posts)
55. "She's making it up" - Biden on Warren's 12 page health care plan
Biden’s campaign questioned Warren’s calculations, calling them “double talk” and “mathematical gymnastics” and asserting that middle-class taxes would rise despite her vow.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-warren-medicare/democrat-warren-medicare-for-all-would-not-raise-u-s-middle-class-taxes-idUSKBN1XB466?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews Nice way of calling Senator Warren a liar. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
Eliot Rosewater (30,047 posts)
3. Nah, Sanders and his campaign are doing what they do...AGAIN
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:30 PM
mikeysnot (4,717 posts)
29. GLWT - Yeah right Sanders is the only one....
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mikeysnot (Reply #29)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 04:07 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,047 posts)
42. Well, we have TONS of examples here on Sanders, care to share on the others?
Which others relentlessly attack the Democratic party?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #42)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:35 PM
mikeysnot (4,717 posts)
43. So you have
over 4000 pounds of evidence to send us? Hyperbole, much? I found these just in the running threads.
Biden suppporters https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=399173 https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=399031 https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=314341 Mayor Pete suporters. https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287399002 New DU'er, posting a deleted quote via twitter https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=398652 Undecided! https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=397593 https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=395223 https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=396303 Warren https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287392588 ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mikeysnot (Reply #43)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:48 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,047 posts)
47. Pointing out that Sanders BASHES our party all the time is just a FACT.
Keep this shit up and rump will be reelected.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #47)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:13 PM
mikeysnot (4,717 posts)
59. you forgot to end your statement
with the word PERIOD!!! after your BS.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:16 AM
Qutzupalotl (13,180 posts)
4. An old saying on DU is appropriate in these situations:
“My own candidate sucks so bad I have to attack yours!”
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #4)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
6. +1
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:19 AM
CousinIT (7,816 posts)
5. The one attacking Sanders...
...new DU member, just since yesterday. Hmm...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 AM
djg21 (1,803 posts)
7. There would be no reason to have a forum re: Primaries.
You have Democratic candidates (and one non-Democrat) competing against one another for the Democratic nomination. If we cannot be critical of candidates, how could there be any meaningful discussion that would help us decide on a candidate to support. I for one am really tired of all the stupid jury notices I get regarding posts that supposedly attack democratic candidates, when the discussions are fairly innocuous. It’s stupid. Grow a thicker skin. It’s politics.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to djg21 (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:35 AM
gab13by13 (14,731 posts)
10. Be careful what you wish for,
none of our candidates are perfect but Joe has a lot of skeletons in his closet too. I don't feel the urge to attack him though.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:37 AM
LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)
11. You're new; Biden has been attacked here since well before he declared
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:15 PM
Aquaria (1,076 posts)
14. And your candidate has plenty in her
Resume that isn’t so great.
No candidate is perfect, so getting snide with other people’s candidates like that is asking to have your nose rubbed in your candidate’s flaws. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:46 PM
Mars and Minerva (369 posts)
20. Don't passive/aggressive attacks count? ... nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to djg21 (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:31 PM
LiberalLovinLug (13,587 posts)
30. I hear ya
And I'm a Sanders supporter.
Although I am getting very tired of the droning on about Sanders not being an official Democrat. When he is one of our candidates. When one can look at more than a few "official Democrats" that side with Republicans on many key bills. One even recently jumped ship to the other side. In comparison, it's a freakin letter in front of a name FFS. But yeah, having ones post hidden and a very involved discussion cut off instantly, even if a little heated, is frustrating as hell, and shuts down important dialogue in a place that is supposed to be a discussion board. I think it's used by some as a way to silence others who may be getting the better of them in a debate. Thin skin indeed. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:25 AM
TruckFump (5,007 posts)
8. Amen!!
We need to GO BLUE.
We have wonderful candidates and I have no problem supporting the 2020 Dem slate TOTALLY. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
Sloumeau (2,657 posts)
9. One person's "attack" is another person's "pointing out information so that voters are informed".
I think it is important that people are able to express their opinions, even if that means criticizing various Democratic Presidential Candidates. There are many forums on Democratic Underground. If a person does not want to read about "attacks" or criticism about the various Democratic Candidates, that person might want to avoid the Democraic Primaries Forum.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,181 posts)
12. Vetting is not attacking.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
brooklynite (84,552 posts)
13. Now let's all come to agreement on what is considered "attacking"...
You can start
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:17 PM
Aquaria (1,076 posts)
15. Legitimate criticism is not an attack.
If your candidate can’t handle that, then politics is not the blood sport for you.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Aquaria (Reply #15)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:20 PM
Perseus (4,341 posts)
17. 100% correct. We must be objective at all times
"Legitimate criticism is not an attack." That should be a quote we all live by...well put.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:18 PM
Perseus (4,341 posts)
16. The truth must be told at all times, even if it hurts, but bashing should not be condoned.
We must not fall into the MAGAT attitude that our candidate can shoot someone in daylight in the middle of fifth avenue and we are going to turn the other way, which is what I have seen a lot at DU. A gaffe is a gaffe is a gaffe no matter who made it, and we have to be critical of that action.
We must stop being fanatics of our candidates and allow ourselves critical thinking. Bashing is sometimes an interpretation of factual news, things that we see in video which can be corroborated easily, and I believe we know what real bashing is and I agree that bashing cannot be condoned and must be rejected, but lets make sure we don't fall into trying to defend what cannot be defended, I am convinced that anyone of our candidates will beat the con, that of course will happen if the DNC is smart to place walls to prevent the cheating that we all know will come from the republicans aided by the Russians, mostly in the key states within the Electoral College. To this day I cannot understand why Democrats have not fought hard to get rid of the Electoral College, I cannot understand it. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:38 PM
Moral Compass (1,241 posts)
19. Ya got my vote
I’m just a lurker whose occasional opinions when posted are most often ignored, but I think the flaming of other candidates is counterproductive at best.
The excuse I often see when the attacks are on Bernie is that “he’s not a Democrat” which totally ignores the fact that he’s running as a Democrat. Attacks on Biden and Bernie should be alerted and eliminated by the existing rules. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Moral Compass (Reply #19)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:49 AM
dansolo (5,376 posts)
58. He has never actually run as Democrat in a general election
He runs as a Democrat in the primary, but then switches back to Independant after he gets the nomination.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM
Mars and Minerva (369 posts)
21. We are in early times in the "Let's not attack each other's candidate" posts. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 PM
AtheistCrusader (33,982 posts)
22. People are scared. People are on edge.
There's a lot to be worried about. People need a way to express that fear or concern without being lit on fire as 'concern trolls' instantly.
Some fears have merit. Some we can talk out, if, and only if, we talk. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:07 PM
McKim (2,287 posts)
23. We Must Stop It!
We must stop it! I am really tired of the attacks on Sanders. The 2016 election is over folks. I want DU to retain its integrity as a good place for us to meet and that we strive for factual posts and don’t attack each other or our candidates.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:10 PM
radical noodle (7,726 posts)
24. I agree but...
a couple of the candidates need to stop attacking the Democratic Party. To me, that's even worse.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:20 PM
Dream Girl (5,111 posts)
25. Pretty sure some of it is coming from Russian personas...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:20 PM
amuse bouche (3,644 posts)
26. You say 'attack'..I say criticize
We will come together but I disagree critiquing our candidates helps traitor trump
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to amuse bouche (Reply #26)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:53 PM
Skittles (147,804 posts)
45. absolutely correct
really tired of hearing we have to take the position that a candidate can do no wrong - it is ridiculous
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Skittles (Reply #45)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:36 AM
amuse bouche (3,644 posts)
52. Yep..and I am sick of Dems telling me to stfu and go along with candidate A or B BS
Never in a million tears would I give Gabbard, aka Jill Stein wannabe, a pass on her nonsense
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to amuse bouche (Reply #52)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:20 PM
Skittles (147,804 posts)
54. THANK YOU!!!
and there are others besides those two - one of whom I absolutely DETEST
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:27 PM
David__77 (21,448 posts)
27. The logic some employ is the same as that of mutually assured destruction.
That is, so-and-so has done something, and so it's right or needed that I do something else. I'm fairly confident that there are a lot of narratives that can be created that would be pretty toxic to any of the candidates.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:28 PM
Grasswire2 (12,828 posts)
28. And STOP RE-LITIGATING 2016
It's against DU rules.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:40 PM
yaesu (7,623 posts)
31. yep, I've seen patterns here not unlike russia bot behavior, it needs to stop. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to yaesu (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:13 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
35. True this...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:46 PM
calimary (73,997 posts)
32. YES! Besides, there's MORE than enough subject matter to work with
from trump.
We should ALL be focused on THAT. The Democratic candidate one attacks today could be the Democratic nominee tomorrow. And yes, I need that reminder myself, every time Bernie’s name comes up (along with my hackles). I frankly don’t care that much who our nominee is. I have already vowed to support and to vote for that candidate. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:05 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,213 posts)
34. Good of you to remind
Everyone what many of us have been saying for months. It is just doing the Republicans work for them! Every single candidate should be hammering Trump non stop.
Pick things they can’t defend him against. Him being fined for his scam university, him being fined for running a scam foundation, etc. Things that show him to be a con artist and no more than a common criminal mastermind...He keeps saying the same things over and over an soon people believe him. Do the same to him but louder and more often and see how the likes it.. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #34)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 03:13 PM
JudyM (25,721 posts)
41. Trump's team only needs to follow a handful of DUers to have everything they need to attack Sanders.
Last edited Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:21 AM - Edit history (1) “We” are doing their work for them, as well as for the rethug and Russian bots on social media... just grab an attack here and post it anywhere.
And what benefit does it serve on DU? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:29 PM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
36. The attacks on Bernie are outrageous. Despicable.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Joe941 (Reply #36)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:23 AM
dansolo (5,376 posts)
72. And the attacks on Biden...?
*crickets*
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to dansolo (Reply #72)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:06 AM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
74. Bernie is attacked 5 to 1 more.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:33 PM
Aaron Pereira (383 posts)
37. We have four or five candidates that could easily end up as nominee right now.
Dems should know the difference between good faith politicking and bad faith smear attempts. With Iowa coming up in just a month it's not too early to consider the tone we're using against our front runners.
Any one of them could be the candidate we'll all be voting for in November and we need to imagine Trump using divisions we create in the present time against us later. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:34 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
38. Primary Season: "I criticize other candidates, but mine is attacked."
At the end of the day, my guess is that less than 10% of the criticisms are valid, relevant and telling; the rest is simply throwing crap at the wall hoping it sticks.. that pitched crap followed quickly by a "this doesn't look for candidate X" or "Disqualifying!!!"
It's the primaries. It's the form. Our sacred cows need the faithful flock to gnash teeth, rend garments and yell righteously at the rain not to fall on our bumper stickers. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:36 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
39. I want to hear what a candidate promotes as their position
and debate the position. I don't care about someone's op-ed about a candidate's personal life or spreading misinformation or twisted facts, that's manipulation. I don't care if the info comes from a campaign or not; they can be the worst offenders.
On vetting: The vetting should be done before it's posted here. We don't need this to be a sandbox turned litter box. We end up defending against false information more than discussing real issues and opinions. We need to ask, what is going to educate us vs. what is going to divide us. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to defacto7 (Reply #39)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:27 AM
JudyM (25,721 posts)
49. So right about that. The level of diatribe dramatically stymies depth of discussion.
Dizzying constant fistfights and spitting in faces. Degenerative. Yet it continues without regard to its negative impact on the quality of the DU community.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:59 PM
thisaintright (15 posts)
40. agreed...
and this is why...just got back from a week's long journey from the northeast down through W. Virginia, down through NC, 3 days in the Orlando theme parks and then back up through GA and SC, NC and VA visiting some historic/military sites all along the way.
And here's what I didn't see...not a single maga hat, t-shirt or bumper sticker...nor any flags flying...this includes multiple hops off I-95 traffic in the back roads of NC and GA. Nothing! ...what this tells me is that folks are figuring out that their guy ain't really their guy anymore and are afraid to show it and though many may still vote R for POTUS next year in secret because of some BS family tree guilt they have to deal with, I think a lot are having their lights turned on of late and realizing what's at stake. My 2 cents anyway... So, lets have respectful discourse about our slate of candidates but keep cool with anything vicious because the tide is turning, my friends. We just have to keep at it to make sure nothing is left to chance. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:51 PM
Skittles (147,804 posts)
44. nonsense
people need to be called out for any serious errors of judgement
THIS IS AMERICA ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Skittles (Reply #44)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:56 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
46. Do you want Trump re-elected?
Beginning to sound like you do.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #46)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:29 AM
Tipperary (6,930 posts)
56. Wow , really?
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Tipperary (Reply #56)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 05:28 AM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
57. Yes really
Getting rid off Trump is and should be the priority. We can’t afford purity tests this election.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #46)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:59 PM
muriel_volestrangler (99,044 posts)
61. Does this mean you'll stop the attacks on Ocasio Cortez?
That would be the least you can do, if you're asking others to respect all Democrats.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #61)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:31 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
62. What attacks?
Don’t recall ever attacking her. And didn’t realize she was running for President.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #62)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:52 PM
muriel_volestrangler (99,044 posts)
63. Here's you defending a libertarian who criticised her wrongly:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212690144#post1
or there's this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212514053#post6 ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #63)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 05:13 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
66. Again
how is noting that she owes Pelosi an apology for calling her a racist an attack? Or offering her advice to pick her battles more wisely an attack?
And when did she start running for President? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #66)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:02 PM
muriel_volestrangler (99,044 posts)
67. And yet you're now calling for no attacks on Democrats, because that helps Republicans
but you were happy to attack a Democrat (when, just as with candidates' supporters, it's in favour of another Democrat), and what was worse, to help a libertarian against a Democrat.
Are you saying you only respect Democrats who run for president? Do you care nothing for the House? Because you are saying that's your excuse. If you'd turned over a new leaf, that'd be fine. But you're unrepentant about the Ocasio Cortez attacks, after you've put yourself forward as being in favour of party unity. I'm not sure you get this 'party' thing. You accuse party members of having "ideological blinders", and when asked to explain what on earth you're going on about, use the insulting and pointless "If I have to tell you you won't get it" crap. Without ever saying what the point was, apart from causing arguments. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #67)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:12 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
68. You are obviously looking to pick a fight
and I’m not sure why.
And nothing I said was an attack, unless you think that Nancy Pelosi is a racist. Do you? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #68)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:21 PM
muriel_volestrangler (99,044 posts)
69. That, from someone who asked a Democrat "do you want Trump re-elected?"
Give me a break - you have been looking for fights in all your threads. We had that "draw your own conclusions" BS about your "polls" of how many supporters of different candidates bothered replying to your threads.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #69)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:24 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
70. You didn't answer my question
Do you think Nancy Pelosi is a racist?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #70)
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:23 PM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
48. I agree with you 100%. And lets stop the "your candidate did it first" crap, too.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:02 AM
betsuni (21,714 posts)
50. When a candidate attacks others for something they can't prove, like the person is corrupt
for having fundraisers or taking donations from people who have jobs with corporations, and is being hypocritical, hell yes I will attack them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:05 AM
True Blue American (16,579 posts)
51. Thank you.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:42 AM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
53. Only Democrats shouldn't be "attacked"...nt
Sid
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:58 PM
brooklynite (84,552 posts)
60. Could someone provide a definition of "attacked"? I'm sure we'll all agree...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:02 PM
LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)
64. Yes; by all means, let's just bury our heads in the sand and ignore things like this:
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #64)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 05:09 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
65. It is attacks like that is what I'm talking about.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:05 AM
myohmy2 (3,019 posts)
73. "Attacks like these will only create bitterness among supporters..."
...I think philosophical differences create the bitterness...but that's what primaries are supposed to iron out...
...I think you're worrying too much... ...even the most adamant Bernie or Biden supporter knows any one of our candidate's a 1000 times better than a trump... ...in the end, we'll all be working to defeat trump, guaranteed... ...but in the meantime...... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to myohmy2 (Reply #73)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
75. I hope you're right
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:26 PM
Prosper (761 posts)
76. Nobody gets attacked more than Sanders. Here there and
everywhere and he keeps on gaining.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Prosper (Reply #76)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM
Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)
77. True
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #77)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:39 PM
Prosper (761 posts)
79. Even considering how main stream media will omit his
name from all discussions. Glaringly highlighted by his polling and fund raising. Not a doubt in my mind that a huge segment doesn’t want to see lower classes elevated in any way. Contrast this with the embarrassment projected when the MSM is forced to report the 2% tax threatening the benefactors of Trump’s wealth redistribution law of 2017.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:11 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
78. i don't think this is out of the ordinary. really not a big deal (imo) . nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |