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Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:05 AM

 

Could everyone please stop attacking other candidates

Everyone has their preferred candidate. I get that. But everyone needs to stop attacking their opponents. That only helps Trump and the Republicans.

Right now their are several posts on this board attacking Sanders. A few attacking Biden. And some more attacking the other candidates. This really needs to stop. One of these candidates will be our nominee. Attacks like these will only create bitterness among supporters of other candidates and we need to be fully united to beat Trump.

So please, please stop with all the attacks and negative posts.
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Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 OP
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LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #2
Aquaria Dec 2019 #18
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Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #3
mikeysnot Dec 2019 #29
Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #42
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mikeysnot Jan 2020 #59
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Qutzupalotl Dec 2019 #4
Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #6
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 AM

1. The attacks are coming from

 

Inside the campaigns!

Our personal opinions should be posted as such but most are attributed to staffers or candidates.

We didn't learn much from 2016 I guess.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:12 AM

2. I agree with you for most of our candiates, however one of them has a senior staff dedicated

 

to making venomous attacks on the rest, and the party in general.

As long as that candidate maintains that strategy, they are fair game, IMO.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:20 PM

18. It's more than one, truth be known.

 

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:57 PM

55. "She's making it up" - Biden on Warren's 12 page health care plan

 

Biden’s campaign questioned Warren’s calculations, calling them “double talk” and “mathematical gymnastics” and asserting that middle-class taxes would rise despite her vow.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-warren-medicare/democrat-warren-medicare-for-all-would-not-raise-u-s-middle-class-taxes-idUSKBN1XB466?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

Nice way of calling Senator Warren a liar.

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:15 AM

3. Nah, Sanders and his campaign are doing what they do...AGAIN

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:30 PM

29. GLWT - Yeah right Sanders is the only one....

 

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 04:07 PM

42. Well, we have TONS of examples here on Sanders, care to share on the others?

 

Which others relentlessly attack the Democratic party?
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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:48 PM

47. Pointing out that Sanders BASHES our party all the time is just a FACT.

 

Keep this shit up and rump will be reelected.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #47)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

59. you forgot to end your statement

 

with the word PERIOD!!! after your BS.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:16 AM

4. An old saying on DU is appropriate in these situations:

 

“My own candidate sucks so bad I have to attack yours!”
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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 AM

6. +1

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:19 AM

5. The one attacking Sanders...

 

...new DU member, just since yesterday. Hmm...
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 AM

7. There would be no reason to have a forum re: Primaries.

 

You have Democratic candidates (and one non-Democrat) competing against one another for the Democratic nomination. If we cannot be critical of candidates, how could there be any meaningful discussion that would help us decide on a candidate to support. I for one am really tired of all the stupid jury notices I get regarding posts that supposedly attack democratic candidates, when the discussions are fairly innocuous. It’s stupid. Grow a thicker skin. It’s politics.

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Response to djg21 (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:35 AM

10. Be careful what you wish for,

 

none of our candidates are perfect but Joe has a lot of skeletons in his closet too. I don't feel the urge to attack him though.
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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:37 AM

11. You're new; Biden has been attacked here since well before he declared

 

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:15 PM

14. And your candidate has plenty in her

 

Resume that isn’t so great.

No candidate is perfect, so getting snide with other people’s candidates like that is asking to have your nose rubbed in your candidate’s flaws.
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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:46 PM

20. Don't passive/aggressive attacks count? ... nt

 

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Response to djg21 (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:31 PM

30. I hear ya

 

And I'm a Sanders supporter.
Although I am getting very tired of the droning on about Sanders not being an official Democrat. When he is one of our candidates. When one can look at more than a few "official Democrats" that side with Republicans on many key bills. One even recently jumped ship to the other side. In comparison, it's a freakin letter in front of a name FFS.

But yeah, having ones post hidden and a very involved discussion cut off instantly, even if a little heated, is frustrating as hell, and shuts down important dialogue in a place that is supposed to be a discussion board. I think it's used by some as a way to silence others who may be getting the better of them in a debate. Thin skin indeed.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:25 AM

8. Amen!!

 

We need to GO BLUE.

We have wonderful candidates and I have no problem supporting the 2020 Dem slate TOTALLY.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 AM

9. One person's "attack" is another person's "pointing out information so that voters are informed".

 

I think it is important that people are able to express their opinions, even if that means criticizing various Democratic Presidential Candidates. There are many forums on Democratic Underground. If a person does not want to read about "attacks" or criticism about the various Democratic Candidates, that person might want to avoid the Democraic Primaries Forum.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 AM

12. Vetting is not attacking.

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 PM

13. Now let's all come to agreement on what is considered "attacking"...

 

You can start
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:17 PM

15. Legitimate criticism is not an attack.

 

If your candidate can’t handle that, then politics is not the blood sport for you.
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Response to Aquaria (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:20 PM

17. 100% correct. We must be objective at all times

 

"Legitimate criticism is not an attack." That should be a quote we all live by...well put.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:18 PM

16. The truth must be told at all times, even if it hurts, but bashing should not be condoned.

 

We must not fall into the MAGAT attitude that our candidate can shoot someone in daylight in the middle of fifth avenue and we are going to turn the other way, which is what I have seen a lot at DU. A gaffe is a gaffe is a gaffe no matter who made it, and we have to be critical of that action.

We must stop being fanatics of our candidates and allow ourselves critical thinking.

Bashing is sometimes an interpretation of factual news, things that we see in video which can be corroborated easily, and I believe we know what real bashing is and I agree that bashing cannot be condoned and must be rejected, but lets make sure we don't fall into trying to defend what cannot be defended, I am convinced that anyone of our candidates will beat the con, that of course will happen if the DNC is smart to place walls to prevent the cheating that we all know will come from the republicans aided by the Russians, mostly in the key states within the Electoral College. To this day I cannot understand why Democrats have not fought hard to get rid of the Electoral College, I cannot understand it.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:38 PM

19. Ya got my vote

 

I’m just a lurker whose occasional opinions when posted are most often ignored, but I think the flaming of other candidates is counterproductive at best.

The excuse I often see when the attacks are on Bernie is that “he’s not a Democrat” which totally ignores the fact that he’s running as a Democrat.

Attacks on Biden and Bernie should be alerted and eliminated by the existing rules.

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Response to Moral Compass (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:49 AM

58. He has never actually run as Democrat in a general election

 

He runs as a Democrat in the primary, but then switches back to Independant after he gets the nomination.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM

21. We are in early times in the "Let's not attack each other's candidate" posts. nt

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 PM

22. People are scared. People are on edge.

 

There's a lot to be worried about. People need a way to express that fear or concern without being lit on fire as 'concern trolls' instantly.

Some fears have merit. Some we can talk out, if, and only if, we talk.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:07 PM

23. We Must Stop It!

 

We must stop it! I am really tired of the attacks on Sanders. The 2016 election is over folks. I want DU to retain its integrity as a good place for us to meet and that we strive for factual posts and don’t attack each other or our candidates.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:10 PM

24. I agree but...

 

a couple of the candidates need to stop attacking the Democratic Party. To me, that's even worse.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:20 PM

25. Pretty sure some of it is coming from Russian personas...

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:20 PM

26. You say 'attack'..I say criticize

 

We will come together but I disagree critiquing our candidates helps traitor trump
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Response to amuse bouche (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:53 PM

45. absolutely correct

 

really tired of hearing we have to take the position that a candidate can do no wrong - it is ridiculous
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Response to Skittles (Reply #45)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:36 AM

52. Yep..and I am sick of Dems telling me to stfu and go along with candidate A or B BS

 

Never in a million tears would I give Gabbard, aka Jill Stein wannabe, a pass on her nonsense
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Response to amuse bouche (Reply #52)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:20 PM

54. THANK YOU!!!

 

and there are others besides those two - one of whom I absolutely DETEST
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:27 PM

27. The logic some employ is the same as that of mutually assured destruction.

 

That is, so-and-so has done something, and so it's right or needed that I do something else. I'm fairly confident that there are a lot of narratives that can be created that would be pretty toxic to any of the candidates.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:28 PM

28. And STOP RE-LITIGATING 2016

 

It's against DU rules.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:40 PM

31. yep, I've seen patterns here not unlike russia bot behavior, it needs to stop. nt

 

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Response to yaesu (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:13 PM

35. True this...

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:46 PM

32. YES! Besides, there's MORE than enough subject matter to work with

 

from trump.

We should ALL be focused on THAT.

The Democratic candidate one attacks today could be the Democratic nominee tomorrow.

And yes, I need that reminder myself, every time Bernie’s name comes up (along with my hackles).

I frankly don’t care that much who our nominee is. I have already vowed to support and to vote for that candidate.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:05 PM

34. Good of you to remind

 

Everyone what many of us have been saying for months. It is just doing the Republicans work for them! Every single candidate should be hammering Trump non stop.
Pick things they can’t defend him against. Him being fined for his scam university, him being fined for running a scam foundation, etc. Things that show him to be a con artist and no more than a common criminal mastermind...He keeps saying the same things over and over an soon people believe him. Do the same to him but louder and more often and see how the likes it..
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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 03:13 PM

41. Trump's team only needs to follow a handful of DUers to have everything they need to attack Sanders.

 

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“We” are doing their work for them, as well as for the rethug and Russian bots on social media... just grab an attack here and post it anywhere.

And what benefit does it serve on DU?
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:29 PM

36. The attacks on Bernie are outrageous. Despicable.

 

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Response to Joe941 (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:23 AM

72. And the attacks on Biden...?

 

*crickets*
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Response to dansolo (Reply #72)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:06 AM

74. Bernie is attacked 5 to 1 more.

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:33 PM

37. We have four or five candidates that could easily end up as nominee right now.

 

Dems should know the difference between good faith politicking and bad faith smear attempts. With Iowa coming up in just a month it's not too early to consider the tone we're using against our front runners.

Any one of them could be the candidate we'll all be voting for in November and we need to imagine Trump using divisions we create in the present time against us later.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:34 PM

38. Primary Season: "I criticize other candidates, but mine is attacked."

 

At the end of the day, my guess is that less than 10% of the criticisms are valid, relevant and telling; the rest is simply throwing crap at the wall hoping it sticks.. that pitched crap followed quickly by a "this doesn't look for candidate X" or "Disqualifying!!!"

It's the primaries. It's the form. Our sacred cows need the faithful flock to gnash teeth, rend garments and yell righteously at the rain not to fall on our bumper stickers.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:36 PM

39. I want to hear what a candidate promotes as their position

 

and debate the position. I don't care about someone's op-ed about a candidate's personal life or spreading misinformation or twisted facts, that's manipulation. I don't care if the info comes from a campaign or not; they can be the worst offenders.

On vetting: The vetting should be done before it's posted here. We don't need this to be a sandbox turned litter box. We end up defending against false information more than discussing real issues and opinions.

We need to ask, what is going to educate us vs. what is going to divide us.
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Response to defacto7 (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:27 AM

49. So right about that. The level of diatribe dramatically stymies depth of discussion.

 

Dizzying constant fistfights and spitting in faces. Degenerative. Yet it continues without regard to its negative impact on the quality of the DU community.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:59 PM

40. agreed...

 

and this is why...just got back from a week's long journey from the northeast down through W. Virginia, down through NC, 3 days in the Orlando theme parks and then back up through GA and SC, NC and VA visiting some historic/military sites all along the way.

And here's what I didn't see...not a single maga hat, t-shirt or bumper sticker...nor any flags flying...this includes multiple hops off I-95 traffic in the back roads of NC and GA. Nothing!

...what this tells me is that folks are figuring out that their guy ain't really their guy anymore and are afraid to show it and though many may still vote R for POTUS next year in secret because of some BS family tree guilt they have to deal with, I think a lot are having their lights turned on of late and realizing what's at stake. My 2 cents anyway...

So, lets have respectful discourse about our slate of candidates but keep cool with anything vicious because the tide is turning, my friends. We just have to keep at it to make sure nothing is left to chance.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:51 PM

44. nonsense

 

people need to be called out for any serious errors of judgement

THIS IS AMERICA
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Response to Skittles (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:56 PM

46. Do you want Trump re-elected?

 

Beginning to sound like you do.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:29 AM

56. Wow , really?

 

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #56)

Wed Jan 1, 2020, 05:28 AM

57. Yes really

 

Getting rid off Trump is and should be the priority. We can’t afford purity tests this election.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:59 PM

61. Does this mean you'll stop the attacks on Ocasio Cortez?

 

That would be the least you can do, if you're asking others to respect all Democrats.
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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #61)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:31 PM

62. What attacks?

 

Don’t recall ever attacking her. And didn’t realize she was running for President.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #62)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:52 PM

63. Here's you defending a libertarian who criticised her wrongly:

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212690144#post1

or there's this:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212514053#post6
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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #63)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 05:13 PM

66. Again

 

how is noting that she owes Pelosi an apology for calling her a racist an attack? Or offering her advice to pick her battles more wisely an attack?

And when did she start running for President?
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #66)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:02 PM

67. And yet you're now calling for no attacks on Democrats, because that helps Republicans

 

but you were happy to attack a Democrat (when, just as with candidates' supporters, it's in favour of another Democrat), and what was worse, to help a libertarian against a Democrat.

Are you saying you only respect Democrats who run for president? Do you care nothing for the House? Because you are saying that's your excuse.

If you'd turned over a new leaf, that'd be fine. But you're unrepentant about the Ocasio Cortez attacks, after you've put yourself forward as being in favour of party unity.

I'm not sure you get this 'party' thing. You accuse party members of having "ideological blinders", and when asked to explain what on earth you're going on about, use the insulting and pointless "If I have to tell you you won't get it" crap. Without ever saying what the point was, apart from causing arguments.
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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #67)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:12 PM

68. You are obviously looking to pick a fight

 

and I’m not sure why.

And nothing I said was an attack, unless you think that Nancy Pelosi is a racist. Do you?
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:21 PM

69. That, from someone who asked a Democrat "do you want Trump re-elected?"

 

Give me a break - you have been looking for fights in all your threads. We had that "draw your own conclusions" BS about your "polls" of how many supporters of different candidates bothered replying to your threads.
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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #69)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:24 PM

70. You didn't answer my question

 

Do you think Nancy Pelosi is a racist?
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Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:23 PM

48. I agree with you 100%. And lets stop the "your candidate did it first" crap, too.

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:02 AM

50. When a candidate attacks others for something they can't prove, like the person is corrupt

 

for having fundraisers or taking donations from people who have jobs with corporations, and is being hypocritical, hell yes I will attack them.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:05 AM

51. Thank you.

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:42 AM

53. Only Democrats shouldn't be "attacked"...nt

 

Sid
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:58 PM

60. Could someone provide a definition of "attacked"? I'm sure we'll all agree...

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:02 PM

64. Yes; by all means, let's just bury our heads in the sand and ignore things like this:

 

Another day, another despicable tweet from a prominent Sanders supporter
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #64)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 05:09 PM

65. It is attacks like that is what I'm talking about.

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:05 AM

73. "Attacks like these will only create bitterness among supporters..."

 

...I think philosophical differences create the bitterness...but that's what primaries are supposed to iron out...

...I think you're worrying too much...

...even the most adamant Bernie or Biden supporter knows any one of our candidate's a 1000 times better than a trump...

...in the end, we'll all be working to defeat trump, guaranteed...

...but in the meantime......
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Response to myohmy2 (Reply #73)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

75. I hope you're right

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:26 PM

76. Nobody gets attacked more than Sanders. Here there and

 

everywhere and he keeps on gaining.
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Response to Prosper (Reply #76)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

77. True

 

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #77)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:39 PM

79. Even considering how main stream media will omit his

 

name from all discussions. Glaringly highlighted by his polling and fund raising. Not a doubt in my mind that a huge segment doesn’t want to see lower classes elevated in any way. Contrast this with the embarrassment projected when the MSM is forced to report the 2% tax threatening the benefactors of Trump’s wealth redistribution law of 2017.
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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:11 PM

78. i don't think this is out of the ordinary. really not a big deal (imo) . nt

 

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