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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:34 PM Mar 2019

Joan Walsh to Joe Biden: "Don't run"

CNN political analyst Joan Walsh suggested that if former Vice-President Joe Biden really wanted to change the so-called “white man’s culture” then he would not run for President in 2020.

Walsh’s remarks were in response to comments Biden made on Tuesday lamenting how Anita Hill was treated during the Clarence Thomas hearings — hearings over which Biden presided.

Panning the “white man’s culture,” Biden said this during the Biden Courage Awards ceremony in New York: “She paid a terrible price. She was abused through the hearing…To this day, I regret I couldn’t get her the kind of hearing she deserved.”

[...]

“You’ve got Joe Biden as the white grandfather in all of this, the white man saying it’s a white man’s culture. Okay. It’s got to change,” (host Erin) Burnett said.

[...]

“I have an idea for how he can change it. Don’t run,” Walsh said. “Come out and support a woman. There’s six women in the race, four female senators. If you want to change it, that’s a way to change it. You know, I admire Joe Biden. I am a fond Democrat. He was a great vice president. But you want to change it? Don’t run.”

She then added his treatment of Hill was not going away.

It “will remain a huge issue if he does run,” she stressed.


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-joan-walsh-to-biden-if-you-want-to-change-white-mans-culture-in-2020-dont-run/
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Joan Walsh to Joe Biden: "Don't run" (Original Post) PDittie Mar 2019 OP
Bugger off, Joan. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #1
I saw trolls attacking Mayor Pete for being a white male RandySF Mar 2019 #3
But it's not trolling. RLG Mar 2019 #31
Ok RandySF Mar 2019 #32
One of the most significant issues in 2020 is going to be legitimacy, as in who can RHMerriman Mar 2019 #7
Joe has advantages and flaws. Whether one outweighs the other The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #8
Indeed... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #9
Joe is the white male most likely (based on polling) to win the nomination. brooklynite Mar 2019 #22
This is getting old RandySF Mar 2019 #2
Could not had said it better. Joe had his moment and took a pass. chimpymustgo Mar 2019 #4
Does that go for Bernie, too? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
He "took a pass" because his son died. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #13
Bull-Hockey!!!! Peacetrain Mar 2019 #21
I just don't like journalists and media telling candidates to not run. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #6
Joan Walsh view doesn't represent everyone's view. That's all. Stuart G Mar 2019 #10
Biden had his moment in the spot light randr Mar 2019 #11
Nonsense. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #18
I'm not sure that in running against Trump the Anita Hill mistake would be consequential. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #12
Actually... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #14
Joe, Kamala and Beto have the best chance of beating Trump BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #15
Mind your business Joan. Far worse to reelect Trump, I do not believe Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #16
really???? Celerity Mar 2019 #20
The misogyny out there is terrible. Why risk it? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #25
NOT buying it at all, and it's so so wrong to frame all female candidates as risks! Celerity Mar 2019 #26
It is an opinion. I wish I didn't think it...I love kamala but I do Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #29
Biden isn't my first choice (yet) but who needs someone like her telling him to not run? George II Mar 2019 #17
Biden had his time. BlueStater Mar 2019 #19
If he's the candidate who can Trump, he can stick around a little longer. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #23
Who? Never heard of her. MineralMan Mar 2019 #24
As a woman, I feel the best way to support women is to put someone in the WH that will support women FM123 Mar 2019 #27
Joe Biden 2020 ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #28
Who the fuck gives one God damn what this woman says? lark Mar 2019 #30
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
1. Bugger off, Joan.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:37 PM
Mar 2019

What about the other white men - Beto, Bernie, Buttagieg, etc., are they disqualified, too? Or just Joe?

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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
3. I saw trolls attacking Mayor Pete for being a white male
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:39 PM
Mar 2019
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RLG

(314 posts)
31. But it's not trolling.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
Mar 2019

He is a white male.

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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
32. Ok
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:30 PM
Mar 2019

I saw idiots attacking Mayor Pete for being a white male.

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RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
7. One of the most significant issues in 2020 is going to be legitimacy, as in who can
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:47 PM
Mar 2019

One of the most significant issues in 2020 is going to be legitimacy, as in who can restore it to a federal government that has been tarnished by the excesses of the Trump Administration and campaign, much less the GOP (Sessions, Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Cohen, etc.)...

Biden's history includes a lot of baggage; but it also includes a lot of institutional knowledge of the post-Watergate norms of politics and governance.

Something to be said for that; whether Biden can make the case it is significant enough to warrant support for a campaign for the nomination, and then for the presidency, remains to be seen.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
8. Joe has advantages and flaws. Whether one outweighs the other
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:48 PM
Mar 2019

is for us to decide, not the likes of Joan Walsh.

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RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
9. Indeed...
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:50 PM
Mar 2019

All candidates have flaws; most have strengths as well.

Punditry has no job description; reporters and editors do, but apparently pundits are self-identified.
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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
22. Joe is the white male most likely (based on polling) to win the nomination.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:15 AM
Mar 2019
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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
2. This is getting old
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:38 PM
Mar 2019

I'm all for everyone getting in and letting us sort it all out, and a black woman is among my top two choices.

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chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
4. Could not had said it better. Joe had his moment and took a pass.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:39 PM
Mar 2019

Old white man...go fishing...or something. Don't run for President! Again!!!

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The Velveteen Ocelot

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5. Does that go for Bernie, too?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019
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TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
13. He "took a pass" because his son died.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:54 PM
Mar 2019

I'm sure it wasn't a decision he took as lightly as you're suggesting.

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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
21. Bull-Hockey!!!!
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:20 AM
Mar 2019

As my dear old Dad used to say... Anyone can run and we do not do tests of who they are or are not, .. this is the Democratic Party..not the Republican Party

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
6. I just don't like journalists and media telling candidates to not run.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:42 PM
Mar 2019

Rubs me the wrong way.

Endorse who you like, but let the voters decide whether a candidacy is worthy.

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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
10. Joan Walsh view doesn't represent everyone's view. That's all.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:00 PM
Mar 2019
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randr

(12,409 posts)
11. Biden had his moment in the spot light
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:03 PM
Mar 2019

He failed.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
18. Nonsense.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:14 PM
Mar 2019

He can beat Trump. Joe will take PA without which Trump can't win,

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Karadeniz

(22,506 posts)
12. I'm not sure that in running against Trump the Anita Hill mistake would be consequential.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:16 PM
Mar 2019

Trump and his supporters are hardly in a position to condemn decisions made concerning a woman. Joe is basically a good human being and probably is genuinely regretful.

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. Actually...
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:56 PM
Mar 2019

He should run as he need to atone for this moment in his history. Biden likely cannot unless an African-American women joins as his V.P. but he need to answer for his treatment of Anita Hill, in debate after debate before he can make a dent into righting that WRONG.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
15. Joe, Kamala and Beto have the best chance of beating Trump
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:09 PM
Mar 2019

I don't care about their gender, color or species.

If a green iguana could beat Trump, that would be fine with me.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
16. Mind your business Joan. Far worse to reelect Trump, I do not believe
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Mar 2019

a woman can win the presidency...too much misogyny. We must beat Trump.

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Celerity

(43,319 posts)
20. really????
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:07 AM
Mar 2019
I do not believe a woman can win the presidency


Ridiculous, but that is just my opinion.
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Demsrule86

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25. The misogyny out there is terrible. Why risk it?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019
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Celerity

(43,319 posts)
26. NOT buying it at all, and it's so so wrong to frame all female candidates as risks!
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 AM
Mar 2019

Try pushing that out as a national message during the primaries and watch us COLLAPSE against the orange monster. The alienation of women voters would be immense and devastating.

Just so wrong on so many levels.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
29. It is an opinion. I wish I didn't think it...I love kamala but I do
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:03 PM
Mar 2019

not believe she can win a general.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Biden isn't my first choice (yet) but who needs someone like her telling him to not run?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:12 PM
Mar 2019
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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
19. Biden had his time.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:42 PM
Mar 2019

He represents the past and certainly not the future. He just needs to go away, at least as a presidential candidate.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
23. If he's the candidate who can Trump, he can stick around a little longer.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:19 AM
Mar 2019
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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
24. Who? Never heard of her.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:28 PM
Mar 2019

I have heard of Joe Biden, though. I suspect that, in that, I'm not a lot different from the rest of the voters in this country.

I think I'll ignore Ms. Walsh's opinion, and expect that Joe Biden will, as well.

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FM123

(10,053 posts)
27. As a woman, I feel the best way to support women is to put someone in the WH that will support women
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:58 AM
Mar 2019
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lark

(23,091 posts)
30. Who the fuck gives one God damn what this woman says?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:13 PM
Mar 2019

I for one sure don't. She says she wants a woman, but bet you anything she's one of the ones already hammering on Liz, Amy and Kamala for sins that would never be mentioned or even considered if they were men. MSM doing what it always does, trying to make it even, get someone in who drumpf would poll even with and they have ratings! That's what most of these care about, certainly not the facts. Looks like defeating Drumpf is not her main goal anyway, just taking out the best almost surefire option to win for Dems.

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