Consider Senate seats when choosing Pres ticket.

[Funtatlaguy]

I think it’s very important that our new President will have a Democratic Senate to work with.
Our ticket needs to be strong enuf to have coattails in the most competitive Repub held Senate seat states like Colorado, Arizona, and N.C.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-election/

[Andy823]

1. So are you saying

We shouldn't nominate anyone who is a senator?

[Funtatlaguy]

2. What?

I’m saying we need to be concerned about winning back the Senate.
To do that, we have to win 3-4 purple states that have current Republican Senators.
So, it might be wise to look at the polling of our Pres and VPs popularity in states like Colorado, Arizona, Maine, NC, Ga, where GOP Senators are vulnerable.

Nominating a current Dem Senator in a state with a Dem Governor is not a problem because that Gov would appoint a Dem replacement until a new election is held.

[Andy823]

3. Sorry about that

My brain did not register when I read your post. Once again I am sorry.

[Funtatlaguy]

4. No worries.

[Demsrule86]

5. Not if a GOP governor picks the replacement so I don't think

Warren or Sanders should run.

[Blue_true]

6. Why shouldn't they run?

I think Massachusetts changed their law after Ted Kennedy passed such that an appointee only serves until a special election is held and that election has to be within a few months of the seat being vacated. I have not read much about how Vermont chooses, but my guess is a republican will likely be a Jim Jeffords type that tend to vote with democrats on a good frequency.

[SFnomad]

7. Voting with Democrats "on a good frequency" won't get us the majority back

Losing the Vermont to a Republican is not an option.

[Blue_true]

8. I checked Vermont's law at a government information site for all states.

In Vermont the governor can make an interim appointment with no restrictions on party, BUT, must call a Special Election within 3 months of the seat being vacated, UNLESS the seat is vacated outside of 60 days of a general election, in that case the general election date serves as the special election date.

So let's say that Bernie wins out nomination and beats Trump in the General. Since a general election date would have passed by the time the seat is vacated, the Vermont governor can appoint someone, but must call a special election within 90 days of Bernie leaving the seat for the White House. The person that wins the special election serves out the rest of Bernie's term, which is until 2024. So, there is worry only if you think Vermont democrats can't field a strong candidate in a state that leans heavily democratic for the US House and Senate.

[SFnomad]

10. I think you're reading this wrong ...

"UNLESS the seat is vacated outside of 60 days of a general election, in that case the general election date serves as the special election date."

Since the seat will be vacated outside of 60 days from the (next) general election, the appointment will last until then ... which is almost 2 years. Vermont does their General Elections every 2 years.

In simple language ... use the General Election, unless it's too close, then do it within 90 days.

So if BS were to win the Presidency, he'd vacate his Senate seat sometime between Nov 2020 and Jan 2021. The next General Election in Vermont wouldn't be until Nov 2022, which is how long the appointment would last ... nearly 2 years ... no bueno.

[Blue_true]

11. It is you who is reading it wrong.

The election criteria is which comes first. If the general comes first after a seat is vacated and is within the 90 day window, the general serves as the special election. If not, then a special election date that meets the 90 day window is called. This is not complicated, if Bernie becomes President, the most likely event is that a democrat will fill his seat for virtually ALL of the remaining 3 years of his term.

Anyone who wants to form their own opinion can go to ncsl.org and read the vacant US Senate seat requirements for each state.

[SFnomad]

12. And at your suggestion, I went out to ncsl.org ... Vermont doesn't fill vacancies the way you

described ... you might want to go look it up yourself.

[Blue_true]

13. It truly is not worth me wasting more time on this with you.

You are set on an idea and facts aren't going to change that. I did make a midtake on the general election point, the window is if a vacancy occurs within 6 months of a general election, then the general election serves as the special election, otherwise the Vermont governor has to call a special election and give a date for that election within 90 days of the seat becoming vacant. This is not hard, it is clear reading.

Anyone else can go to ncsl.org, do a search string for "vacancies in the United States Senate" and then look under "Vacancies filled by special election".

The republican governor of Vermont CAN NOT lock up the seat for a republican through 2024 unless that republican wins a special election that would occur a few months after Bernie vacates the seat.

To the poster, I am not debating this with you any longer, that is rather futile.

[BlueFlorida]

9. Consideration of the senate cost Hillary

If she had chosen Sherrod Brown, she would be president today.

She chose Tim Kaine instead because VA had a Democratic governor.

Sherrod Brown would have guaranteed her win. One less senator wouldn't have mattered anyway for SCOTUS or the various judges.