Jay Inslee becomes third presidential candidate to release tax returns

[DonViejo]

MARCH 29, 2019 / 12:21 PM / AP

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee on Friday became the latest Democratic presidential candidate to release his tax returns, while bashing President Donald Trump for refusing such a disclosure.

"It's time for him to come clean with the American people," Inslee said on Fox News' "Fox & Friends," adding that he was issuing his challenge on the Republican president's "favorite show," a nod to Mr. Trump's habit of watching the network's morning show and often tweeting in response.

Mr. Trump first refused such disclosure as a candidate ahead of his 2016 election, saying he was under audit. Mr. Trump's business dealings and his now-shuttered foundation have been the subject of various investigations and Democratic attacks.

Still, Inslee, who announced his campaign at the beginning of this month, is just the third announced Democratic White House contender to release his personal returns, joining Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jay-inslee-becomes-third-presidential-candidate-to-release-tax-returns/

[WeekiWater]

1. Harris and Sanders have released one years worth.

With Harris you have to go to her office in California by appointment. Just a minor correction. This is a really big release by Inslee.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. Yes, Bernie released his 2014 tax return... four more coming out soon.

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[WeekiWater]

4. Well played.

"soon"

Why only four? I hadn't heard he was hedging on the number.

[George II]

7. In the interview where he said he was having "mechanical issues" he said he'd release 10 years....

....has he now back off the ten years promise? "Mechanical issues"???

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-26/sanders-says-he-will-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-soon

[WeekiWater]

8. This is the first I have heard of just releasing four years.

That would make what is already clear even more clear. Something fishy is going on.

[George II]

11. Me too. I wonder which years they'll be?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. Tell that to Kamala... under the standard she set for running for office, one year is sufficient.

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[WeekiWater]

25. Harris sets the standards for BS.

I love that. She is a much more influential leader. I agree with you on that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Okay then, one year of tax returns does it... good to know!!

Bernie has complied with the standard set by Kamala. At least now, thankfully, we don't have to hear about Bernie's tax returns anymore.


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[WeekiWater]

57. Glad you agree he has no intentions of sticking to his word. NT

[ehrnst]

58. What happened to "TEN YEARS" of tax returns will be released sooner than later?"

A mere month ago:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

But by all means, let's try to deflect to KAMALA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As if Kamala would get away with promising 10 years of taxes a month ago... then changing it. She would be FLAYED for that, yes?

It sounds as if the 'standard' for other candidates "evolves" year to year, and now month to month.

[sheshe2]

73. By admitting that Kamala has set the standard...

Then you admit she is head and shoulders above the rest.

Excellent. Thank you InAbLuEsRaTEe.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

74. Yeah, Kamala's setting the standard on releasing one year of tax returns makes her

"head and shoulders above the rest." That's some logic you're using... nice try though!!


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[sheshe2]

78. You said she set the standard in several other posts here.

So...if I read you wrong, please correct me. This is Bernies second run, years ago he said then he would release his taxes. He released an abbreviated 2014 return. Everyone else is a new face in the race and some have released up to 10 ...oh Inslee just released 12.

The other day at his town hall he stated he would release 10 years worth soon.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. Why would you say Bernie has released an abbreviated 2014 return when you know full well

that he has released a full 2014 return? Bernie has met the "Kamala tax return standard" and, I have no doubt, he will soon far exceed it... what more do you want?! Whatever it is, feel free to demand it of your own favorite candidate.


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[sheshe2]

84. Ah, he knew what her 2019 standard was back in 2015 and followed it.

Dayum, I am so confused here. Seriously confused. A month ago he said he would release 10 years soon.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

86. So, you DO know that Bernie has released his full 2014 tax return...

Why not just come out and admit it?!


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[sheshe2]

87. So when a newbie, Kamala in 2019

Releases her full tax returns will BS finally honor his promise to release 10 years. BS promised. I take them at their word. If not then they have no place on my dance card.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

90. Not surprising you would want to change the subject to avoid answering my question...good try though

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[samnsara]

102. same here...

[lapucelle]

79. Hopefully the press is going to hold BS to his promise.

Sanders Says He Will Release 10 Years of Tax Returns ‘Soon’
By Arit John
February 25, 2019, 9:24 PM EST

It wouldn't be surprising if the first debate question posed to him is

"Define 'soon'."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. It would be Iess surprising if the 1st debate question for Bernie was: Do you feel vindicated by the

overwhelming support you've received from the American people for you and your progressive agenda, as reflected by the poll numbers that establish you as the clear front runner for the Democratic nomination for president by such a large margin?! Answer: Not at all Wolf and here's why...


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[lapucelle]

82. The press is there to ask questions, not to give the BS stump speech.

[ehrnst]

100. +1000.

[ehrnst]

99. ....

[NurseJackie]

101. Head and shoulders? Oh, gurrrl... now you've dunnit... don't even get me started!

... I'll just leave it at this.

[ehrnst]

60. "the Kamala standard," only seems to exist when defending

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another candidate who first said that he released his full taxes in the past, then when fact checked, finally released one year. Then promised more by a particular date, then didn't...

Then years later promised 10 years, then revised that one month later.

The "Kamala standard" is about as real as "the Biden rule" that the GOP invented.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

66. Claims of whataboutism is whatabout you expect from those advocating

double standards. You can't touch Bernie based on the standards set for the rest of the field, so it's understandable that "whataboutism" is your go to argument. It IS amusing tho, I hafta admit!!


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[ehrnst]

95. ....

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[George II]

63. That "one year standard" was when she ran for SENATE, and is probably one year more....

….than 99% of Senate candidates.

There is a different standard for Presidential candidates, has been for quite some time. Since she was willing to do so as a Senate candidate I'm sure she'll release more, and not three years after she runs.

For the record, here is an indication of the "standard" for Presidential candidates from both parties:

https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

trump - 1
Gillibrand - 12
Inslee - 12
Sanders - 1 (from two years prior)
Warren - 10
Pence (even!) - 10
Jeb Bush - 32
Hillary Clinton - 16
Cruz - 4
Fiorina - 2
Kasich - 7
Rubio - 5
Stein - 1
Kaine - 9
Obama - 9
Gingrich - 1
Romney - 2
Ryan - 2
Santorum - 4
Biden - 18
McCain - 2
Palin - 2
gw bush - 8
Cheney - 8
Kerry - 5
Bill Clinton - 8
GHW Bush - 3
Reagan - 6
Carter - 3
Ford - 1
Nixon - 4
Truman - 36
FDR - 25

All but two of those candidates released their CURRENT tax returns when they ran.
I'm sure this year's Democratic candidates will catch up shortly, not three years from now.

[sheshe2]

67. One is the loneliest number.

They stand out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

75. Two can be bad as one.

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[sheshe2]

76. Three Dog Night

'Cause one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do

One Is The Loneliest Number - Three Dog Night (Lyrics) - YouTube

One Is The Loneliest Number - Three Dog Night (Lyrics) -


Lyrics
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one
No is the saddest experience you'll ever know
Yes, it's the saddest experience you'll ever know
'Cause one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
One is the loneliest number, whoa-oh, worse than two
It's just no good anymore since you went away
Now I spend my time just making rhymes of yesterday
One is the loneliest number
One is the loneliest number
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
One is the loneliest
One is the loneliest
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
It's just no good anymore since you went away
One is the loneliest (number)
One is the loneliest (number)
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
One is the loneliest (number)
One is the loneliest (number)
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
One (one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do)
(number)
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
(Number)
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Songwriters: Harry Nilsson / Harry Edward Nilsson
One lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc, Peermusic Publishing

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

68. Why is it even important that candidates reveal their tax returns?

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[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Using Kamala as the standard, 1 year already should be enough... 5 years then would be plenty.

I'm sure Bernie will release the more recent ones soon enough. Feel free though to continue to hypothesize what he and the OTHER candidates who have yet to release multiple years of their taxes must be hiding.


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[WeekiWater]

24. You you believe Harris is the standard?

I think you should change your top choice. Awesome that you feel she set the standards for all others.

You are breaking news here with Sanders backing down off of his original claim. I'm not surprised by it.

[ehrnst]

55. Indeed. (nt)

[ehrnst]

54. Kamala, Kamala, Kamala...

There is only one person here promoting a false equivalence by stating that there is a "Kamala standard."

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

Can you show where KAMALA did that, since you seem to frantically want to change the topic to KAMALA?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Show me where Kamala has revealed more tax returns than Bernie. Oh, you can't...ZIIING, case closed!

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[ehrnst]

94. Still can't answer?

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Really embarassing, isn't it?

[George II]

6. 2014 in 2016, never 2015 which he promised.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. Wait! So you admit Bernit released his 2014 tax returns? Is that right?

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[George II]

14. No, I "admit" (pretty strong word) that he released his 2014 tax RETURN, singular. But....

....if you look at two or three videos of him and Jane you'd see that wasn't what he promised.

So yes, I partially "admit" that he did so.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Cool, now tell that to those who keep making up that Bernie has only released a summary page

of his 2014 tax return. And feel free to help me keep correcting the record when you see that incorrect information being spread about Bernie.


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[George II]

20. Nah, you can tell them. But while you're doing so why don't you "admit" that he originally....

....released only that two-page "summary" (Form 1040) and only reluctantly, weeks later, released the accompanying schedules. He thought he could get away with only the 2 pages, but he couldn't.

[Andy823]

26. I didn't know he released any schedules

Are they on line someplace? All I have ever seen were the two pages.

[George II]

28. Yes, at first he released two pages. He received YUGE pushback, so eventually released...

...the other seven pages. Originally it was on his campaign website, but now when you click the link you don't get the tax return, you get his "Donate" page!!!!! I don't know if it's available anywhere else anymore.

Both The Hill ( https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276545-sanders-camp-releases-2014-federal-tax-return ) and Time Magazine ( http://time.com/4296683/bernie-sanders-tax-returns-2014/ ) have the link in their article about it, but Sanders has changed the content at that link!

https://go.berniesanders.com/page/-/Bernie%20Taxes%20Full.pdf

[ehrnst]

30. He had, until WAPO fact checked him, and revealed that he had actually only released a summary.

April 5:

Plainly put, Sanders has not released his full federal tax return. The little he has released was the Form 1040 in 2014, which is a summary of his tax filing that gives a snapshot of his finances — not what is considered a full tax return. The Sanders campaign confirmed to The Washington Post that it has not released other tax returns prior to 2014, which is a sharp contrast to Clinton’s voluminous release of her complete tax returns.
.............................................................
While Sanders rejected Tapper’s assertion that the public has no access to all of Sanders’s tax returns, we have no evidence he has released any other federal income tax return than the Form 1040 from 2014. The campaign confirmed to The Washington Post that it did not release other tax returns prior to 2014.

[Update: On April 15, 2016, Sanders released his 2014 full federal tax return, showing the couple earned just over $200,000 and paid $8,350 in charitable contributions. However, Sanders has not released to which charities he contributed.]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. So why are some promoting the false claim that ALL Bernie released were the summary pages?

See, for example, post #22 below... and the hundreds of other verifiably false posts in countless other threads. But, go ahead, feel free to correct the poster. I doubt anyone will.


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[ehrnst]

33. You're the one accusing people of that. Take it up with them, not me.

Just because I shared something that made you uncomfortable doesn't mean I'm interchangeable with anyone else who has.



Moving the goalpost doesn't make ME wrong here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. Not accusing anyone... just stating a plain and simple fact, one which you know to be true.

Don't you want all of our Democratic nominees to be vetted fairly, openly and honestly?!


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[ehrnst]

48. Frantic whataboutism doesn't show much confidence in one's position...

or one's candidate.

Some seem to think that certain candidates need not be held to their word. Why not just come out and say that?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

83. Frantic "doublestandardism" is what shows a true lack of confidence on your part.

That desperation is quite understandable, however, given Bernie's extremely successful, indeed historic, campaign rollout and the continued immense popularity he enjoys, as well as for his truly progressive agenda. Try to relax... as the primary season rolls on, acceptance of Bernie as the best Democrat to defeat tRumpy will come soon enough, as will the release of Bernie's more recent tax returns....not to worry.


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[ehrnst]

92. That's a new one.

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[Andy823]

22. No he released two pages

2 pages and we need the whole thing.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. See what I mean?! Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Please check your facts.

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Cue the crickets... chirp, chirp


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[ehrnst]

29. What happened to TEN YEARS of tax returns will be released sooner than later?"

A mere month ago:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Apparently, the new Kamala Harris standard is now controlling...

one year of tax returns is sufficient for those running for federal office. Bernie has already complied, but, I'm sure he'll provide his 2018 return when it has been completed and filed with the IRS. So, everyone can now just relax and take a deep breath.


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[ehrnst]

37. But, but, but.... KAMALA!!! So you're not going to answer my question. Too uncomfortable?

Red Herring. ... While it is similar to the avoiding the issue fallacy, the red herring is a deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red-Herring

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. I like Kamala... she sets a good example, one that Bernie has and will continue to follow.

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[ehrnst]

39. Still a red herring fallacy. Here's the question you're avoiding

What do you think happened to TEN YEARS of returns sooner than later?

A mere month ago:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. I already answered your question... read above.

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[ehrnst]

43. Not seeing it.

Can you link to the post?

Seriously, I think that Bernie will be OK if people here point out what he's said. You don't seem to think so.

Why is that?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. Bernie should be held to the same standard, and meet it, as all the other presidential candidates

in the 2020 race. What's good for Kamala is also good for Bernie... case closed. (Though, I expect Bernie will soon EXCEED the standard Kamala has set and also release his 2015 - 2018 tax returns.)


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[ehrnst]

49. What happened to "TEN YEARS of tax returns" will be released "sooner than later?"

A mere month ago:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

[ehrnst]

50. Still not seeing that answer you said you gave.

Can you provide a link?

[TwilightZone]

56. No, he should be held to the statements he makes.

As should all of the candidates.

If he said he was going to release ten years, he should release ten years, not play the whataboutism game after the fact.

[ehrnst]

42. Read this post, and tell me that again...

Apparently, the new Kamala Harris standard is now controlling...

one year of tax returns is sufficient for those running for federal office. Bernie has already complied, but, I'm sure he'll provide his 2018 return when it has been completed and filed with the IRS. So, everyone can now just relax and take a deep breath.

Strawman, red herring and whataboutism.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. I like Kamala... she sets a good example, one that Bernie has and will continue to follow.

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[ehrnst]

46. Still avoiding the issue via copy and paste.

I'm sensing a lot of anxiety and defensiveness.

This doesn't show a lot of confidence when Bernie is held to his own promises, either years ago, or last month. Or respect for Kamala.

Apparently, the new Kamala Harris standard is now controlling...

one year of tax returns is sufficient for those running for federal office. Bernie has already complied, but, I'm sure he'll provide his 2018 return when it has been completed and filed with the IRS. So, everyone can now just relax and take a deep breath.

I think that someone needs to take their own advice, andbrelax and take a deep breath.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

77. I see anxiety and defensiveness alright... it's okay, that's the response I expected given Bernie's

continued rise in the polls. Eventually, you'll come to realize Bernie is the right candidate at the right time in our nation's history.

Not to worry, you'll get to see Bernie's tax returns soon enough, so RELAX. Don't let this issue of tax returns distract you from what truly matters... Bernie's progressive agenda for America that will lead us out of the morass we fell into after tRump's disastrous presidency.


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[ehrnst]

93. From whataboutism to

"I know you are but what am I?"

[Blue_true]

64. Bernie has not released a full return. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

85. SO not true...this mistatement has been debunked so many times, as even those deadset against Bernie

have finally admited. Anyone of them want to set the record straight?!


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[WeekiWater]

88. Correct.

He has released a years worth. That’s nine years short of his promise. Wonder why? He is clearly not being on the up and up. I’m seeing some of his most ardent supporters are now starting to realize that.

[Blue_true]

89. After I wrote that, I read that he released some data for 2014 and 2016.

Do you know why 2015 was skipped? That does not bother you, along with none of his returns being complete releases like others have done?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

91. You are wrong again in saying "none of his returns being complete releases." Please check your facts

and then just admit it. We all make mistakes... it's really okay.


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[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Only 12 more candidates to go...but, only Bernie is being accused of having something to hide.

So ridiculous... but, good for Inslee.


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[George II]

5. Those 12 are NEW candidates just recently beginning their campaigns. Sanders....

...has been running for years and still hasn't lived up to his promise back in 2016. THAT is the difference.

BTW, two other candidates have also released their tax returns in a timely fashion the last time they ran for office, without cajoling. Cory Booker released more than 10 years when he ran for the Senate and Kamala Harris released her 2015 return when she ran for Senate in 2016. Neither skipped a year and released a 2-year old return.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

15. Okay then, using your example as the standard George, Kamala's 1 year of tax returns is sufficient.

You already have Bernie's 2014 tax return... but, as soon as his 2018 return is filed - it's not even due yet - you'll soon have that one too I'm sure. Relax, it's coming.


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[George II]

19. Harris released her 2015 (last full year) in 2016, the year she ran for SENATE. Generally....

....Senate candidates or lower aren't expected to release their tax returns. But since she was so forthcoming for her SENATE campaign, I'm sure there will be more coming, not just 2018. The same thing for Cory Booker - he released a number of returns (I've seen different articles on him, one said 15 years) for a SENATE campaign.

Both have done more than Sanders has done, and neither were Presidential candidates at the time.

You always keep harking back to that 2014 return like that was a groundbreaking event. It wasn't. Once again, it wasn't his most recent at that time, even though he promised the 2015 return several times. Now three years later (next month will be the 3-year anniversary of those promises, in fact) he still hasn't done what he already said he'd do. That was the first time he and Jane said "soon".

So his now one-month old promise of "soon" doesn't hold much water, using past performance that "soon" could very well turn out to be 2022, if ever.

[ehrnst]

51. What happened to "TEN YEARS" of tax returns will be released sooner than later?"

A mere month ago:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged to “sooner than later” make public 10 years of his tax returns and vowed to support the eventual Democratic presidential nominee, saying he held no grudges against the Democratic National Committee over his unsuccessful 2016 campaign.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-set-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-2019-02-26

Can you show where KAMALA did that, since you seem to want to change the topic to KAMALA?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. You already know the answer... I can't help that you won't accept it.

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[ehrnst]

53. No, you haven't answered it. You've desperately tried to make this about Kamala.

Please link to where you answered my question.

You may want to take a deep breath and relax as you like to advise others.

[SFnomad]

9. BS is the only candidate that has been telling us for 3+ years that he'd be releasing his taxes n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. I too commend Inslee for doing that.

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[Amimnoch]

21. And it didn't take 3 years of broken promises!

Need the rest, including the one I’m supporting, to follow suit.

[BlueFlorida]

23. I think all of them would release their tax returns

except one who has a track record of not releasing.

[Andy823]

27. Anyone who doesn't release them

Must have something to hide.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. Yes, ask Kamala what she's hiding, under YOUR standard for Bernie, by releasing only one year

of her tax returns - like Bernie has done - instead of ten years. Let me know what she says.


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[ehrnst]

45. Kamala didn't promise something years ago, then not deliver. Then again a month ago

and not deliver.

You seem to be getting more anxious by the minute when Bernie is held to his own standard, as stated by Bernie, years ago, and then last month.

Maybe it's time to relax and take a deep breath....

Frantic whataboutism doesn't show much confidence in one's position.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. Im VERY confident in my position...esply that Bernie WILL BE the next President of the United States

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[George II]

70. Harris only announced a few weeks ago, not 3-4 years ago.

I don't know why you insist on comparing Sanders to Harris. Why not compare him to Gillibrand (12) or Warren (10)?

But back to Harris, once again she was running for SENATE, not President, in 2016 when she released that one (same election year when Sanders released his one), but hers was for 2015, not 2014.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

71. Bernie just announced a few weeks ago for 2020... just sayin'!!

And, obviously, the voting public couldn't care less when Bernie ultimately will release his tax returns... Bernie is leading in the polls... and for good reason!! Bernie dominates all his fellow Democrats when it comes to consistently leading on progressive issues ... and for his ENTIRE political career.

We can't afford to be stuck with tRumpy another 4 years... our country wont survive it. We desperately need Bernie, who's popularity is second to none, and who can, no doubt, send that fuckwad packin'!!


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[George II]

72. So how about those promises he and Jane made a few years ago? You never seem to address them. Why?

[ehrnst]

96. ....

You should take your own advice, and "calm down and relax." Scolding and blaming others for one's upset doesn't reflect well on one's reasons for supporting a particular candidate. Not a good persuasive method... because reacting as if one is being personally attacked when one's candidate is scrutinized derails political discussion instead of continuing it. Someone trying to take away the ball and stop the game if they are up on points isn't convincing people they are a skilled player.

[ehrnst]

98. "The voting public couldn't care less when Bernie ultimately will release his tax returns"

I keep hearing that, but not seeing much in the way of polling.

[NurseJackie]

61. Not releasing taxes is like "Pleading-the-Fifth...

... and I do understand that "Pleading-the-Fifth" isn't proof of wrongdoing, but it certainly is suspicious when someone DOES plead-the-fifth. That's how I see this. It's very suspicious.

People have the right to know if the person they're considering voting for is a tax cheat or not... and where their money comes from... and where it's invested... and where it's being saved/banked (ie: domestic or off-shore havens).

Knowing which charities a wealthy candidate supports is also a good indication of their character and priorities. But, if a candidate doesn't contribute to charities, then I suppose that could be a powerful reason to want to withhold the intimate details of their tax returns. It could be embarrassing.

Best to let people have their own unconfirmed suspicions than to prove them right... that's what I think someone on his campaign has advised him to do. His cynical Stein-supporting staffers would definitely advise him that the negative publicity of NOT releasing the taxes is "better" than the negative publicity of actually releasing them.

Isn't that sad? What a sad commentary it is. In my opinion.

[NurseJackie]

59. Where are Bernie's tax returns? What's he hiding?

Personally, I see this as a great big "fuck you" to the voters and to all the other candidates. It show GREAT DISRESPECT to the American people and it's making a mockery of any previous pledge to be transparent. And for all the other times that someone urged transparency in others, it's the height of hypocrisy to not release the full and complete tax returns for ten years!

[ehrnst]

62. .....

[Hortensis]

97. Old-wealth FDR released 25 YEARS of returns!

I didn't know that but like learning it. A bright note in this thread.

Still, surely 10 years would be enough, allowing people time to leave behind old behaviors that may or may not have once been considered acceptable under the laws and practices of those times but have not been repeated for at least a decade?

As for Sanders, just as before, he doesn't want to disclose and knows he won't win the primary, so again he will continue to promise but not come through (Barr didn't exactly invent the "lull" tactic) until the issue is supposedly moot. Except that he never really stopped campaigning, so for him this is just delay ongoing since 2015.

How about this: ONE standard for all? Surely we can come together on that? Nondisclosure bad in all candidates, disclosure good, move on to other issues.

[George II]

103. Yes, and that was way back in the 1930s. Here's the complete list of those who have done so...

...including Truman, who released 36 years!

trump - 1
Gillibrand - 12
Inslee - 12
Sanders - 1 (from two years prior)
Warren - 10
Pence - 10
Jeb Bush - 32
Hillary Clinton - 16
Cruz - 4
Fiorina - 2
Kasich - 7
Rubio - 5
Stein - 1
Kaine - 9
Obama - 9
Gingrich - 1
Romney - 2
Ryan - 2
Santorum - 4
Biden - 18
McCain - 2
Palin - 2
gw bush - 8
Cheney - 8
Kerry - 5
Bill Clinton - 8
GHW Bush - 3
Reagan - 6
Carter - 3
Ford - 1
Nixon - 4
Truman - 36
FDR - 25

[Hortensis]

104. I missed Truman! His kind of integrity wasn't rare

then and isn't extinct now, but all the smoke and mirrors make it hard to see, or notice missing.

Reminds me that most of our very famous national journalists of those days appallingly dismissed Truman, "the haberdasher," as an incompetent little accident of history, horrifying for what it says about pack journalism, but Democratic voters were less closed-minded in his case and appreciated him more than they believed the toxic groupthink of people like Edward R. Murrow and his circle.