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LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:46 AM Mar 2019

Tulsi Gabbard interview



Answers a lot of questions that have been leveled at her by Democrat voters, and progressives in general. At least she provides what she sees as answers. I think Cenk does a decent job at keeping it straightforward, and not going off on tangents as he's prone to do.

She is a dark horse in this race. She has one foot in the fight against Islamic extremists, which pleases conservatives clinging their duct tape in the basement, yet is one of the new young progressives not afraid of "democratic socialist" ideas like Medicare-for-all.
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Tulsi Gabbard interview (Original Post) LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 OP
we better move on from trump or there will be a new civil war don't ya know? nt msongs Mar 2019 #1
Democrat voters? RandySF Mar 2019 #2
That was the first thing I noticed n/t SFnomad Mar 2019 #3
Same here. Ugh. eom Control-Z Mar 2019 #7
The tireless, thankless job of the grammer police never ceases LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #11
A nice dose of "both sides" from her. rogue emissary Mar 2019 #4
a dark horse? lol qazplm135 Mar 2019 #5
Thanks LiberalLovinLug! Devil Child Mar 2019 #6
Mueller reported Trump did not collude with Russia to influence our elections. Now we must put aside Cha Mar 2019 #8
Yes, this disappointed me. PeaceFan Mar 2019 #10
That is disappointing. Not that she is wrong. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #14
She's a dead horse in the race with zero chance Pisces Mar 2019 #9
+1 BootinUp Mar 2019 #13
Oh, God. Cenk. That's a name I haven't heard in a while. Politicub Mar 2019 #12
Haven't seen him outside of a GOT aftershow in an age. Iggo Mar 2019 #15
The-wanna-be-Joe Liebermann of 2020. irisblue Mar 2019 #16
 

msongs

(67,367 posts)
1. we better move on from trump or there will be a new civil war don't ya know? nt
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:47 AM
Mar 2019
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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
3. That was the first thing I noticed n/t
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:00 AM
Mar 2019
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Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. Same here. Ugh. eom
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:49 AM
Mar 2019
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LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
11. The tireless, thankless job of the grammer police never ceases
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:52 PM
Mar 2019

sigh. I swear whomever decided on the name of our party never thought out how problematic it would become and turn into grammar mine field to tiptoe through for their future members.



There is the Democratic Party

Someone who votes for that party is called a Democrat

They are a Democrat. They are a voter. They are a Democrat who is a voter. So they are a Democrat voter. Get it?

Sorry if you were insulted by my presumption you would understand that


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rogue emissary

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4. A nice dose of "both sides" from her.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:08 AM
Mar 2019
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. a dark horse? lol
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:31 AM
Mar 2019

She'll get about 1 percent more than me...and I'm not running.

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Cha

(296,878 posts)
8. Mueller reported Trump did not collude with Russia to influence our elections. Now we must put aside
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:23 AM
Mar 2019


https://www.democraticunderground.com/128742029

Tulsi Gabbard: Trump indictment might have 'led to civil war'

Rep. Tulsi Gabbar (D-Hawaii), a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, said late Monday that an indictment of President Trump by special counsel Robert Mueller could have eventually “led to civil war.”

“If [Trump] had been indicted for conspiring with Russia to interfere with and affect the outcome of our elections, it would have precipitated a terribly divisive crisis that could have even led to civil war,” Gabbard said in a statement posted on Twitter.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435780-tulsi-gabbard-trump-indictment-might-have-led-to-civil-war

Like our Country isn't divided now by trump's ugly divisive regime tearing our country apart..

Stop acting like Barr's summary is "Mueller's Report", Gabbard.
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PeaceFan

(14 posts)
10. Yes, this disappointed me.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:55 AM
Mar 2019

I still think she's been reasonable for the most part about Russia, at least compared to some people who turned it into an unnecessary sideshow when the open actions of Trump every day are clearly evil. I believe it was also used to cultivate anti-Russia sentiment as a propaganda tool.

We need the report though. Please, for the love of God!

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LiberalLovinLug

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14. That is disappointing. Not that she is wrong.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:55 PM
Mar 2019

What your bolded text says is what could very well have happened. Just warning about it is not the same as advocating it, surely you understand the difference.

But I'm disappointed that she would cave so quickly on the Mueller Report based only on Barr's 4 page whitewash.

But I understand her approach. And that is try and find bridges to the other side. At least to the fringes of Trumpland, and to the Independents, who were a big factor in the last election.

I'm all about defeating Trump. However we can. Whomever ends up with the best numbers against Trump as this plays out, and that might mean looking how they fare not just with those who are traditional Democratic party voters, but new voters, young voters, Independents, and maybe even a few disgruntled moderate R's. And if she can successfully walk that tightrope and can develop a bit of a teflon armor against RW media smear campaigns....which we know work, then all power to her. I'll take her flaws if the other choice is Trump.

If its the most establishment established Democrat there is ie. Joe Biden turns it up and in a year he's leading the pack as Americans choice over Trump...I'm all in!

But what if the well has been so poisoned by actual Fake News from Fox and RW media that we may have to think a little differently if our #1 goal is defeating Trump.

What if it were a choice between a candidate like say Harris, who is wildly popular within Democratic circles, but was targeted 24/7 by Fox News and also the extreme left and that worked to dampen any support outside of the party, while at the same time inflaming the deplorables to show up to vote against her........or a candidate that was down the list of popularity with Democrats, but was trusted more, or at least not hated, by independents and moderate conservatives? Someone who has served in the military overseas vs. Bonespur Donnie for instance. What if this candidate would get out the vast majority of Democrats, even if holding their noses, in order to rid the country of Trump. But then they would also have the effect of winning the Independent vote, and also the effect of keeping home the few disgruntled "No Trump" crowd, that may just stay home because at least they have not been conditioned to HATE AND LOATHE the Democratic candidate as they were last time?

So this response to "move on", while I disagree and find it premature for any Democrat to be saying, it does fit into her very clear path of not going out of her way to antagonize too much the big red machine. And I'm just saying that it may end up we need that kind of fence walker to defeat Trump. She is invaluable as another card to play if we need to, at the very least.

Like I said, if the candidate who can win is someone more conservative like Biden or even Klobuchar, or Gillibrand, even though personally I'm in favor of pushing the party forward and embrace the new younger progressive movement.....fine. But if it looks like we actually NEED a candidate who has developed a kind of teflon armor against a lot of RW attacks, while at the same time appealing to a wider audience, then Tulsa might be the ticket out of the nightmare.

I think its important to hear the views from all candidates.

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Pisces

(5,599 posts)
9. She's a dead horse in the race with zero chance
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:35 AM
Mar 2019
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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
12. Oh, God. Cenk. That's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:57 PM
Mar 2019

I was over TYT 10 years ago. I can't believe they're stick kicking around. And the set looks the same.

Is there a transcript of this interview?

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Iggo

(47,536 posts)
15. Haven't seen him outside of a GOT aftershow in an age.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 01:28 AM
Mar 2019

At least, I think it was Game Of Thrones. (I watch a lot of aftershows.)

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irisblue

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16. The-wanna-be-Joe Liebermann of 2020.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 01:31 AM
Mar 2019

Pass

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