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elleng

(130,857 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 03:18 PM Mar 2019

The Insanity of Democrats Attacking Buttigieg--for Not Being Gay Enough

'My community has never had a presidential candidate taken seriously, and it’s not something I imagined happening in my lifetime.

After weeks of glowing press coverage of Pete Buttigieg as he’s shot up in the Democratic 2020 field, the “Pete’s Not Perfect” posse has kicked into high gear with an unusually personal criticism: Buttigieg, they say, isn’t gay enough.

“Is Pete Buttigieg just another white male candidate, or does his gayness count as diversity?” Slate asked in the headline (since changed) of a much discussed piece this week by staff writer Christina Cauterucci.

The fact that the press and political class are even taking Buttigieg’s candidacy seriously is a historic first. An openly gay candidate has never qualified for a presidential debate, let alone become president (the jury is still out on James Buchanan, but whatever his orientation, he wasn’t leading any Pride parades in 1857).

Yet some liberal voices are now discounting Buttigieg’s sexual orientation (“still a white man”), or at least diminishing the historic discrimination gays have faced as compared with women and people of color (“most of the time gender and race are way heavier burdens than sexual orientation in the professional and political environment,” and “there was a time when it was illegal for us to marry interracially, women and POC could not even own property but a gay white man could”). For those critics, his race and gender negate the little credit they accord him for being gay.

All of this seems like an attempt to write Buttigieg off as “just another white guy,” standing in the way of more diverse candidates. It’s the Oppression Olympics at its worst: In a battle to prove that one community is more discriminated against than another, we tear each other apart rather than unite in common cause.'>>>

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-insanity-of-democrats-attacking-pete-buttigiegfor-not-being-gay-enough?

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The Insanity of Democrats Attacking Buttigieg--for Not Being Gay Enough (Original Post) elleng Mar 2019 OP
A very good article about insanity and gay politics. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2019 #1
The Slate piece was particularly egregious dsc Mar 2019 #2
I think the title on this post is misleading customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #3
My "beef" with him has nothing to do with sexual preference. RLG Mar 2019 #4
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,571 posts)
1. A very good article about insanity and gay politics.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 03:45 PM
Mar 2019

This sentence stood out to me:

...Still, as a gay man, Buttigieg’s candidacy has struck a personal chord. My community has never had a presidential candidate taken seriously, and it’s not something I imagined happening in my lifetime. That doesn’t mean I’ll vote for Mayor Pete simply because he’s gay, but his sexual orientation matters, and it shouldn’t be the subject of derision from our allies.

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dsc

(52,155 posts)
2. The Slate piece was particularly egregious
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 03:53 PM
Mar 2019

They have since changed the headline from “Is Pete Buttigieg just another white male candidate, or does his gayness count as diversity?" to something considerably less offensive but her article is still a hot mess. It is literally unimaginable that such an article could be published at a mainstream news outlet about any other minority. Simply disgraceful.

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customerserviceguy

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3. I think the title on this post is misleading
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 04:00 PM
Mar 2019

It's not about Pete being gay enough, it's about being gay being not enough for the folks who value diversity as one of their top criterion for being the Democratic nominee.

We don't win when we play, "My group has been more marginalized than your group." That's a path to the divide-and-conquer game that Trump is an expert at.

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RLG

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4. My "beef" with him has nothing to do with sexual preference.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

It's just that this whole "he has substance and other candidates do not" irks me.

Also, there's sort of a double standard with him regarding the whole "white privilege" thing where he is just as privileged as other white male candidates.

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