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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:38 PM Mar 2019

I'm not going to be a part of the smear machine that happens here every primary.

I'm not going to participate in the flavor of the day outrage,
I'm not going to point out the flaws I believe I see in your choice,
I'm not going to engage in conversations about previous votes or stances,
I'm not going to fight any of you about your choice.
I have something else to fight, and its the exact opposite of us.
Good luck to your candidate!
Eko.

p.s. at least, I'm going to try to do this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I'm not going to be a part of the smear machine that happens here every primary. (Original Post) Eko Mar 2019 OP
To put it bluntly... Turbineguy Mar 2019 #1
... Eko Mar 2019 #3
I'm with you.... paleotn Mar 2019 #2
I am with you Lifelong Protester Mar 2019 #4
I'm all in for Pete Buttigieg at the moment. Snarkoleptic Mar 2019 #5
Wise words. Eko Mar 2019 #6
Amen! JustAnotherGen Mar 2019 #7
I can live with vigorous online back-and-forth. . philly_bob Mar 2019 #8
Totally agree. TruckFump Mar 2019 #9
I'm undecided at the moment but blueinredohio Mar 2019 #10
I'm with you proud patriot Mar 2019 #11
There Is a Minimum Age Limit for POTUS of 35. I Think There Should Be a Maximum, Too: DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #12
Dang it, watoos Mar 2019 #18
That seems counter to the spirit of this thread. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #19
You immediately smear the OP's candidate IronLionZion Mar 2019 #23
I Love Joe--He Is My Birthmate. I Just Think Age Is a Real Factor. One Has To Think Two Terms! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #34
Ok, Eko Apr 2019 #36
Hear, hear. sandensea Mar 2019 #13
Completely agree CDerekGo Mar 2019 #14
I am pro-Dem, and NO Dem bashing! BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #15
K & R pazzyanne Mar 2019 #16
That's one of the reasons I refuse to be pushed into picking a candidate to support. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #17
Too bad. Because if you see something that's a problem, I would want to know. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #20
Sure thing, Eko Apr 2019 #31
It's called political discourse. It's what democracy is all about. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #37
Like I ever said we cant have political discourse. Eko Apr 2019 #39
I'm not going to accept the notion that any negative aspect of a candidate is a "smear" brooklynite Mar 2019 #21
You go first, watoos Mar 2019 #28
That's for others to provide... brooklynite Apr 2019 #29
Why isnt it for you to provide? Eko Apr 2019 #32
This is true. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #38
Unless Forced Akbar Mar 2019 #22
Amen! BadgerMom Mar 2019 #24
Agree Sugarcoated Mar 2019 #25
Great! Thx.. we need more of your attitude Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #26
Thank you. I'm with you. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #27
Every primary? How about daily? bitterross Apr 2019 #30
Me too. Eko Apr 2019 #33
Yep. I read the headlines, facepalm, close the site. joshcryer Apr 2019 #35
 

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
1. To put it bluntly...
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:41 PM
Mar 2019

you refuse to help trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
2. I'm with you....
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:42 PM
Mar 2019

The last go around was rough and I'll admit I got pulled into the rancor. Not this time. I'm undecided on all but one thing right now. And the one thing I'm completely sold on is supporting the Democratic candidate, whoever they might be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
4. I am with you
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:03 PM
Mar 2019

I will support the Democratic candidate. I am undecided now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Snarkoleptic

(5,996 posts)
5. I'm all in for Pete Buttigieg at the moment.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:05 PM
Mar 2019

As a Precinct Committeeperson, my plan is to support Democrats up/down the ballot.

My motto is-
Fall in love in the primary.
Fall in line in the general.
Vote blue no matter who!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
6. Wise words.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:06 PM
Mar 2019

Fall in love in the primary.
Fall in line in the general.
Vote blue no matter who!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
7. Amen!
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:20 PM
Mar 2019

I'm in a two year term in NJ - and that attitude is how we flipped out District blue

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
8. I can live with vigorous online back-and-forth. .
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:30 PM
Mar 2019

What I cannot live with is one candidate being favored by either the Democratic party leadership or by DU admins.

So far this primary season, I have not noticed such favoritism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
9. Totally agree.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:33 PM
Mar 2019

Everyone of the candidates who is being supported on the DU is acceptable to me. I like some more than others, but we have a bumper crop this year and I am looking forward to harvesting and baling tRump in 2020.

I WILL SUPPORT AND WORK FOR THE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR POTUS 2020 AND FOR ALL FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY AND LOCAL OFFICES IN THAT GENERAL ELECTION.

We must take our country back from the wingnuts!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
10. I'm undecided at the moment but
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:53 PM
Mar 2019

I know whoever wins the democratic primary is who I'll vote for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
12. There Is a Minimum Age Limit for POTUS of 35. I Think There Should Be a Maximum, Too:
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019

I don't think anyone should be first elected who is older than 65!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
18. Dang it,
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 PM
Mar 2019

My only criteria is picking someone is that they be tough as nails. I had it narrowed down to 3. Kamala Harris - former prosecutor, Tulsi Gabbard - former military, and Liz Warren who ran the CFPB. Looks like I will have to find someone other than Warren seeing as she is over 65.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
19. That seems counter to the spirit of this thread.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
23. You immediately smear the OP's candidate
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:52 PM
Mar 2019

on a thread about avoiding smears

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
34. I Love Joe--He Is My Birthmate. I Just Think Age Is a Real Factor. One Has To Think Two Terms!
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:55 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
13. Hear, hear.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:14 PM
Mar 2019

Doing otherwise would be EXACTLY what the GOPee wants.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CDerekGo

(507 posts)
14. Completely agree
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:17 PM
Mar 2019

2020 will be a watermark on how Democrats work together to take back our Country from the Wingnuts who've complete run roughshod over everything we've worked so hard for. I get sick every morning when I look at what the orange turd is doing. And to see those I call 'family' try and tarnish those that simply want a better life here in the United States, when our Ancestors arrived on boats in the 1800's, unable to speak the language, without a job, with nothing more than the clothes on their backs, but now want to turn away those that just would want the same? I ashamed at some of the posts I see on Social Media by some of my 'family' and 'friends' Though, I am PROUD of relative strangers standing up for what they believe to be right for everyone, not just the few.

I certainly hope, more folks will be more like Plaid Shirt Guy and pay attention to the orange boob, as he speaks, and realize what complete and total horseshit he utters.

We must all decide on our own who we like in the Primaries, but once the General Election is here, VOTE BLUE! no matter WHO!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
15. I am pro-Dem, and NO Dem bashing!
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:17 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
16. K & R
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM
Mar 2019

I am right there with you on this! I have really hated the things happening the past couple of weeks. Thank you for this post, Eko!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cstanleytech

(26,229 posts)
17. That's one of the reasons I refuse to be pushed into picking a candidate to support.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM
Mar 2019

The other is that I feel that the varies Democratic candidates all have the potential to be a better President than the sack of shit that is currently infesting the Oval Office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Too bad. Because if you see something that's a problem, I would want to know.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM
Mar 2019

If you have something to offer, that you think might be a hindrance to someone getting elected in the general election, you might want to consider sharing.

But you're right...supporters of that candidate never take it well. Rose colored glasses and all.

I want to know everything, good and bad. I can decide for myself what's important and what I agree with. But I need things pointed out, since almost all the candidates are unknown to me and the general public.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
31. Sure thing,
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:35 AM
Apr 2019

People can do what they want to do, I have stated what I am going to do. If you have a problem with that then that is your problem not mine. I also don't have the hubris to decide what might be a hindrance to someone getting elected in the GE.
Keep on keeponing.
Eko.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. It's called political discourse. It's what democracy is all about.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:55 AM
Apr 2019

Imagine a democracy where people walked around refusing to point out why one candidate is better than another. We don't say anything to anyone, and just file in without a word on election day & vote, then quietly leave, making sure not to say anything about the candidates, should someone take offense.

It's not called hubris. It's called intelligent discussion about what is best for the party, the country, and winning the election. It's what politics is all about. One wonders why one would be part of a democratic political discussion group, if one doesn't want to discuss politics. It's a good thing to discuss the positives and negatives of the various candidates. That's what it's all about.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
39. Like I ever said we cant have political discourse.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019

Exactly what I am asking for is intelligent discussion for what is best, not discussions where we nit pick on things that really don't matter in the long run. Do what you want though.
Thanks,
Eko

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
21. I'm not going to accept the notion that any negative aspect of a candidate is a "smear"
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:33 PM
Mar 2019

We cannot afford to lose this election, which means we need a candidate for whom negative stories that someone will eventually reveal aren't fatal. I'd rather know about and evaluate them now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
28. You go first,
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:07 PM
Mar 2019

Why shouldn't we vote for Hickenlooper?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
29. That's for others to provide...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:13 AM
Apr 2019

...the key is that I won't rant about "hit jobs" and "assassinations" when someone does.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
32. Why isnt it for you to provide?
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:36 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. This is true.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:03 AM
Apr 2019

Some people get too personal and are disrespectful in their tone, when criticizing or expressing a viewpoint. But generally, it's a good thing to discuss the pros and cons of the different candidates.

People who haven't been through many elections or aren't used to it, may be overly sensitive and perceive anything other than a rah-rah as a "smear." But it's not. As long as it's a legitimate point and not disrespectful.

Example: Pointing out that Biden's age may be a problem is not a smear. It's acknowledging what the poster thinks is a problem. Do others agree or disagree? Let's see if it's generally a problem among us, the most faithful. If it is, then it may really be a problem with voters, who are less loyal to the Democrats. I think that's a healthy discussion.

(Disclaimer: Biden is on my short list, so I use him just as an example. Although I do think his age goes on the "cons" column. He also has plenty of things in the "pros" column.)

Every candidate has cons. Every candidate has pros.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Akbar

(307 posts)
22. Unless Forced
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:43 PM
Mar 2019

Unless I'm forced to weigh in where I see someone is being unfairly slammed or someone is being unfairly elevated here, I'm going to keep silent. We all have ideas of whom we support, and we all have good reasons for that. I'll speak up for my candidate when the time is right, but I will respect that others may have other ideas. And that we all have the same goal--saving our country and, likely, our civilization, from its greatest threat so far in history. Then, when our party has its nominee, I will get behind that person whoever it is (unless, perhaps, it's someone like Devin Nunes or Ted Cruz) to thwart the re-election of the worst president in history.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
24. Amen!
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:54 PM
Mar 2019

I’m with you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sugarcoated

(7,716 posts)
25. Agree
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:55 PM
Mar 2019

I'll defend my candidate but I won't attack anyone else's. I won't weaken ANY Democrat for the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
26. Great! Thx.. we need more of your attitude
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,586 posts)
27. Thank you. I'm with you.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:00 PM
Mar 2019

I will do my best to bite my tongue and not diss any Dem candidate. I like most of them, and I will make my best effort to shut up about the ones I don't. I want to know all the good things about all of them and why they are best qualified to beat Trump. I'm not interested in gossip, outrage, or various slams on good people that could very well be the work product of people with other agendas. I will hide posts that piss on good Democrats.

May the best person win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
30. Every primary? How about daily?
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:30 AM
Apr 2019

Some days it really works my every last nerve to see us parroting the tripe thrown out by the right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(7,243 posts)
33. Me too.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:38 AM
Apr 2019

But, I learned long ago to not let the actions of others dictate my response. To do so gives them power over you. And that I will not have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
35. Yep. I read the headlines, facepalm, close the site.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:01 AM
Apr 2019

I'll vote for the nominee if they release their tax returns, simple fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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