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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:32 PM Feb 2020

What role will Evangelicals play in the election?

We all know that white evangelicals love Trump. However, his support is weakening a bit. They won't vote for a Dem but some may stay home on election day. When Bush faced the same problem in 04, Karl Rove made sure same sex marriage initiatives were on the ballot in several key states to bring out white evangelicals to vote.

This year I wonder if some white evangelicals who are not too crazy about Trump might be driven to the polls to vote against a gay man or a Jewish man or a Catholic or any woman. Thoughts?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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What role will Evangelicals play in the election? (Original Post) Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 OP
They will vote overwhelmingly for Trump again. Mariana Feb 2020 #1
Yes his support in weakening Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #2
"Yes his support in weakening." Mariana Feb 2020 #5
Why do you think Butterflylady Feb 2020 #7
Has the number of white Evangelicals plummeted since 2016? Mariana Feb 2020 #11
They are sheep. They will do as they are told. hamsterjill Feb 2020 #3
I watch a documentary on the Ken Ham "Ark Encounter" and "Answers in Genesis" - it was walkingman Feb 2020 #10
Most of them have their children attending their own megachurch schools. hamsterjill Feb 2020 #12
They will "prey" on us. MineralMan Feb 2020 #4
pathetic losers, I hope rurallib Feb 2020 #6
Trump's got them in the bag customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #8
Trump won't win in 2020. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #13
I'm not saying he will customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #15
True. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #16
Well, the field is two women, one gay man, three Jewish men, and one Catholic man. DanTex Feb 2020 #9
Spread the rumor that Trump will outlaw internet porn, KOing the White Male Evangelical vote. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #14
They're not "white evangelicals", they're "White Satanic Evangelicals". Remember that labeling abqtommy Feb 2020 #17
 

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
1. They will vote overwhelmingly for Trump again.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:35 PM
Feb 2020
...his support is weakening a bit.

Cite, please.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
2. Yes his support in weakening
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020

My concern is how they will react to a gay man or woman or jew or catholic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
5. "Yes his support in weakening."
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

I haven't seen any evidence that his level of support among white Evangelicals is shrinking. I think it's wishful thinking.

Anyway, it wasn't just white Evangelical Christians who voted for Trump in 2016, although their numbers were overwhelming. The majority of Christians overall voted for him - 58% of Protestants, 52% of Catholics, and 61% of Mormons.

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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_religrace/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Butterflylady

(3,541 posts)
7. Why do you think
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:06 PM
Feb 2020

The number of atheists are gaining in number. Evangelicals are only hurting themselves by connecting themselves to trump. That poll only tells me the percentage of evangelicals that are voting for trump not how many evangelicals there are overall.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
11. Has the number of white Evangelicals plummeted since 2016?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

I don't see any evidence of that, either. Even if it did, what about all the other flavors of Christians who voted for Trump, and who will enthusiastically do it again? Christians still outnumber non-Christians in the US by a HUGE margin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
3. They are sheep. They will do as they are told.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:40 PM
Feb 2020

I'm sorry, but the Evangelicals are the dumbest group of people on the planet - easily convinced and manipulated. I have zero respect for them and I do not believe they represent the true Christian ideals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

walkingman

(7,591 posts)
10. I watch a documentary on the Ken Ham "Ark Encounter" and "Answers in Genesis" - it was
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

quite scary to listen to those folks. Unbelievable actually. It just proves that people will believe anything. I actually believe that these types of folks will do anything. What do they teach in schools these days?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
12. Most of them have their children attending their own megachurch schools.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020

Can't have "their" kids tainted by regular kids, you know!!!

They believe whatever it takes to justify their hatred, their contempt and their stupidity. They twist scripture and selectively pick scripture and throw it out as inarguable. Truth be told, you could put ten of them in a room and every damn one of them would ultimately admit that they think the other nine are going to hell. To me, this is what needs to happen. Instead of lumping them all in one category, we need to learn to pit the Baptists against the Church of Christs, etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
4. They will "prey" on us.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020

That's my guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rurallib

(62,404 posts)
6. pathetic losers, I hope
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:05 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. Trump's got them in the bag
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

He's already delivered on his promises to them, two SCOTUS Justices, with the promise of RBG's seat to come will surely motivate them if nothing else does.

Besides, they really like Pence, and are willing to put up with another Trump term to give the boost to Pence for the 2024 nomination. Also, if Trump can survive just over half of his second term, Pence will be eligible to run for the White House in both 2024 and 2028.

Don't confuse "approval rating" with "will vote for". Lots of Trump voters don't always approve of him, but they find him preferable to any Democratic nominee we eventually select. Also, people don't always tell pollsters the whole truth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,950 posts)
13. Trump won't win in 2020.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

Democrats will GOTV no matter who the nominee is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. I'm not saying he will
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

Just that the fundies will vote for him and support his GOTV efforts. That's why our efforts need to be better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Well, the field is two women, one gay man, three Jewish men, and one Catholic man.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:08 PM
Feb 2020

I'm guessing anyone who has a problem with any of those is already in Trump's pocket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Midnight Writer

(21,737 posts)
14. Spread the rumor that Trump will outlaw internet porn, KOing the White Male Evangelical vote.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
17. They're not "white evangelicals", they're "White Satanic Evangelicals". Remember that labeling
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Feb 2020

is important!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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