Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCould Bernie re-label himself without seeming dishonest?
Obviously the biggest concern about Bernie for people here is his Democratic Socialist label. He's not actually a socialist if you look at his policies. He supports Social Democracy like Norway and Denmark. But none the less, people cling to labels more than policies and actions.
Could Bernie potentially relabel himself as someone in favor of heavily regulated capitalism with a strong social safety net like the Nordic model, or would people think he's being disingenuous?
I wonder which would hurt him more - standing by the label, or modifying it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,859 posts)that the system is rigged toward the rich and powerful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I think it's about time the billionaires in this country had a little "stress" in their lives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)He would never do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brush
(53,765 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)It's not the 50's anymore.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)Sanders wrapped himself up in that label.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)Including his enthusiastic support of authoritarian regimes like Castro and the Sandinistas.
He's a geniune socialist and there ain't no way Republicans will allow him to disown that moniker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)He says he supports the Nordic model which is not Socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)When it suits them, they like to claim that fire departments and the VA are "socialist". They also like to claim that the Nordic countries are proof that socialism can work.
But regardless of whether Bernie is a true socialist in the sense that he wants to abolish private ownership of the means of production, he's definitely a "socialist" in the sense that in the past he actively supported revolutionary socialist regimes, railed against capitalism, and never met an idea for a massive redistributive government program he didn't like. So really, let's not split hairs. Ain't no way he could walk away from the socialist label.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)for the Socialist Workers Party in the 1980s. He's repeatedly called himself a socialist, and he's spent very little time talking about the Nordic model.
As far as I know, he never tried to suggest he's an FDR Democrat, either, till be gave that speech defending democratic socialism last year.
He's trying to rebrand himself.
But there's entirely too much out there from before the rebranding for it to be successful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)He has support from almost every single demographic of Democratic and independent voters either because of, or in spite of, his 'label'.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)in a General election. Winning the primary is one thing. The General is much harder with that label.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)When we stop flinching, it will lose it's effectiveness and they will have to find another scare word.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eko
(7,281 posts)and then runs for a second term as an independent? Hows that for a re-label?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,370 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided