Why you vote for the Dem nominee in the GE, even if you have serious differences with him or her

[MH1]

Trump has flipped the 9th Circuit -- and some new judges are causing a 'shock wave'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016248195

My reply:

but somebody's 'conscience' remains pure

because they didn't vote for that awful Hillary.

(hopefully I didn't need a sarcasm tag on that)

[lapucelle]

1. Tell bribri.

[MH1]

13. I understand, and a reason I will never support BS in the primary.

But even with his flaws and his flawed hiring, BS is better than Trump.

[ibegurpard]

2. yep

Even Bloomberg. Tulsi is not a consideration that I can see.

[blueinredohio]

9. I had a guy come to the door

canvassing for Bloomberg. I told him I won't vote for Mike in the primary because I don't like how he jumps from party to party when it suits his needs. But I will vote for him if he gets the nomination.

[MH1]

14. Yup.

Gawd I hope it doesn't come down to BS or Bloomie.

But either one of them is far better than the orange menace.

[krissey]

3. Democrats are as bad as Republicans. How does that help our down ticket. Easy to tell people vote

regardless as Sanders continues to beat up Dems.

[MH1]

12. I don't like Sanders, but he's 1000x better than Trump.

Just to clarify - Are you saying he's not?

I do agree that Sanders as nominee would not be best for down-ballot races. And sure, if you are canvassing, look for clues that Sanders is a huge turn-off to them; if so, don't push voting for him but push our other candidates. That's just a judgment call on the spot - some people just can't be persuaded.

For yourself, if Sanders unfortunately becomes the nominee (I don't believe he will), you absolutely should be voting for him and promoting him positively where possible.

[hangaleft]

19. Draw your own conclusions from the reply you received

<crickets>

[CentralMass]

4. When the other candidates supporters have been pissing in your cornflakes for months it leaves

a bad taste in your mouth.

Although there is no choice but to vote for the nominee. Don't employ a scorched earth policy getting there.

[MH1]

15. Yeah, but at GE time it is time to use one's brain.

Set aside hurt feelings and do what's best for the future.

There's a lot of pissing in cornflakes going on. It's nothing new, and it isn't going to override my rationality at decision time.

[lapucelle]

5. Remind Jane and Senator Nina.

[MH1]

16. LOL, apparently she thought they could "work with" Trump. Yikes.

For what it's worth, I don't think BS will get the nomination.

I'll be very unhappy if he does, because of the b.s.

But my brain will still be in charge.

[Hoyt]

6. +10000. . . . . .

[still_one]

7. I agree. Unlike those immature cry babies who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016

because their candidate wasn’t the nominee, that won’t happen with me

I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee in the general election, because the Supreme Court matters, but I will NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE BRIANHNA JOY GRAY DID

[Demsrule86]

8. I will vote blue no matter who but we won't get judges...we can stop judges with the presidency if

Sanders wins the presidency which is unlikely to say the least. However, he has no coattails and we won't get the senate-no senate then no judges. I just hope we keep the house honestly. I see it as likely that Sanders loses the General and we don't regain the Senate. The house will be our only chance to fight Trump.

I would also add that Sanders's hired folks who did not vote for the Democratic nominee to work in prominent positions in his campaign. They and people like them are the reason the 9th circuit has flipped so I find...a bit hypocritical of such voters to demand the Democrats vote for their nominee when they didn't vote for the nominee in 16. I believe most Democrats will but not necessarily in the states we need. And Sanders numbers may be inflated with operation chaos voters who will vote for Trump in the General. If only a few Democrats and Indies in rustbelt states stay home...we lose.

[MH1]

17. I agree with everything you say. But still, if the bad thing happens,

our nominee is still better than that orange sack.

And that goes for Bloomberg as well as BS as well as Biden and all the others, for whoever is feeling strongly negative toward that candidate right now. I really didn't intend to make this about a specific candidate.

[Demsrule86]

20. I agree...I will say I will vote for Bloomberg in Ohio in the primary ...and hope to hell he wins...

has a better chance than Sanders...of course that is only if operation chaos is successful in taking down Biden.

[Demsrule86]

22. I will vote for the nominee no matter what...but I will throw my efforts to congress should Sanders

be the nominee in the hopes of stopping judges and legislation from Trump...I just don't think Sanders can win a general...he will lose the EC.

[JFlash]

10. Of course I will vote for any nominee

While it's fun to imagine taking revenge on the Bernie Bros and Gals who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, by doing the same to their candidate, that would be like punishing the country, and not just them.

[Midnightwalk]

11. No progress unless we win

I need to spend time I don’t have fleshing this out, but my hypothesis is that controlling government is more important than policy in predicting progressive legislation.

We’ve held the presidency, senate and house for 10 years out of 52. Admittedly there was a time decades ago where we could get compromises through a divided congress.

I don’t really get the expressions “lesser of two evils” or “holding my nose while voting”. In every election since before I was old enough to vote the democratic candidate aligned with what I wanted more than the republican, so why would it be annoying somehow to vote for them.

Doesn’t mean I won’t second guess the nominee to myself, but I’ll keep that to myself after the nominee is selected until at least after the general election.

[MH1]

18. + a million, thanks

You put it very well.

[Demsrule86]

21. But even if we all vote for Sanders...there are other who won't...voters we need in blue wall

states and other places as well. We will lose the general.