Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:09 PM

Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)

If Donald Trump is electable

then any of the candidates for the Democratic Party nomination is electable! Felt it needed to be said.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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11 replies	Author	Time	Post
If Donald Trump is electable (Original post)	Dem4Life1102	Feb 2020	OP
A different base of voters	PatSeg	Feb 2020	#1
I agree. If Dems fail to support whomever our candidate is then we deserve what we get. I worry more	walkingman	Feb 2020	#2
DNC???	Dem4Life1102	Feb 2020	#3
Ok, maybe so. But I do know that they caused major problems in 2016. I just don't want to see	walkingman	Feb 2020	#7
What major problems?	Dem4Life1102	Feb 2020	#8
Yes, but some candidates are more electable than others	Jose Garcia	Feb 2020	#4
I think trump will get a larger percentage of the white vote in 2020 . He has been normalized for	lunasun	Feb 2020	#5
Trump will also get a larger share of the Hispanic vote	Awsi Dooger	Feb 2020	#9
I did not know that percentage equation thanks for explaining .	lunasun	Feb 2020	#10
Trump wasn't elected. He was installed by Putin.	50 Shades Of Blue	Feb 2020	#6
True. He never really was. But Democrats have to come together in unity	rockfordfile	Feb 2020	#11

Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:17 PM

PatSeg (44,535 posts)

1. A different base of voters

Plus Trump got a lot of help from Putin and possibly other foreign entities.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:21 PM

walkingman (5,445 posts)

2. I agree. If Dems fail to support whomever our candidate is then we deserve what we get. I worry more

about the DNC than the voters. They remind me of the Houston Texans - they seem to find some way to lose. Tired of that on both counts. If we cannot beat the slime ball in the WH this time, that is pretty sad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to walkingman (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:25 PM

Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)

3. DNC???

Sorry but the DNC is not the all powerful monolith that you think it is. That's just crazy talk.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:11 PM

walkingman (5,445 posts)

7. Ok, maybe so. But I do know that they caused major problems in 2016. I just don't want to see

anyone try and discredit a front runner simply because they are not a member of the establishment. I hope it is a unfounded fear on my part.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to walkingman (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:20 AM

Dem4Life1102 (3,974 posts)

8. What major problems?

And maybe the is not that Sanders isn’t a member of the establishment but that he’s not a member of the the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:33 PM

Jose Garcia (2,204 posts)

4. Yes, but some candidates are more electable than others

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Dem4Life1102 (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:36 PM

lunasun (21,646 posts)

5. I think trump will get a larger percentage of the white vote in 2020 . He has been normalized for

their acceptance
Trump had 64% non college-white last time

On the plus side
large groups sat out last time and didn’t vote
One being only 13% of validated voters in 2016 were younger than 30
and those that did vote
went Clinton 58% to 28%, with 14% supporting one of the third-party candidates
There is no third party this time
Also the religiously unaffiliated are increasing every year, and they went dem last time in high percentage
So hope !

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to lunasun (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:33 AM

Awsi Dooger (14,565 posts)

9. Trump will also get a larger share of the Hispanic vote

They always demonstrate more benefit of a doubt to an incumbent than would seem logical based on issues.

Besides, the GOP has been quietly courting the Hispanic vote behind the scenes while we remained fixated on 2016. I've seen it here in Miami. Their Spanish language commercials are light years more sophisticated and well messaged. It's like we desperately throw things together in the final weeks. Rick Scott reinvented himself largely due to how he was perceived to handle hurricane preparation, and also by learning just enough Spanish to cut ads and offer a few canned sentences during appearances.

Our problem is the need to win the popular vote by at least 3% to feel comfortable about matters. I remember in 2016 being started at a 538 estimate that Hillary had less than a 10% chance to win the electoral college if she won the popular vote by less than 1%. That's how poor the distribution is right now. So when you see a poll of a Democrat leading Trump by 2% nationally, it means Trump actually is ahead in terms of the electoral college likelihood.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:50 AM

lunasun (21,646 posts)