Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:27 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

CBS/YouGov Poll: Debate watchers believe Bernie Sanders made the best case for defeating Trump

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/02/26/post-debate-poll-sanders

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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CBS/YouGov Poll: Debate watchers believe Bernie Sanders made the best case for defeating Trump (Original post)	OliverQ	Feb 2020	OP
Misleading headline. Only 26% thought Bernie "made the best case."	SunSeeker	Feb 2020	#1
That's not how this works.	OliverQ	Feb 2020	#3
That's not how statistics work.	Gravitycollapse	Feb 2020	#4
That's still better than any other candidate.	totodeinhere	Feb 2020	#5
It means more people thought he made the best case than thought anyone else made the best case.	thesquanderer	Feb 2020	#8
Sanders 3 month swing stat numbers vs Trump suck, that's what matters in the GE	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#2
No they don't.	OliverQ	Feb 2020	#6
Not Sanders 3 month swing state numbers vs Trump, I wish you would stop the spin	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#7
Thanks! Nt	USALiberal	Feb 2020	#9
Very telling poll	Bumperstickers	Feb 2020	#10
That crowd was bought.	OliverQ	Feb 2020	#11
That does not surprise me at all, what shame.	Bumperstickers	Feb 2020	#12
Interesting - you say they were "bought" and then say they PAID almost $2000? That's contradictory.	George II	Feb 2020	#13
Well, the tickets cost that much.	OliverQ	Feb 2020	#14
"Strong speculation" - in other words nothing real. Why would the other candidates and other....	George II	Feb 2020	#15
Yeah they did.	OliverQ	Feb 2020	#16
You know that for a fact?	George II	Feb 2020	#17

Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:31 PM

SunSeeker (48,683 posts)

1. Misleading headline. Only 26% thought Bernie "made the best case."

74% thought he did not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:33 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

3. That's not how this works.

If 26% thought he made the best case, that means every other candidate made an even worse case.

By your own argument, 79% of people thought Biden made a worse case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:34 PM

Gravitycollapse (8,155 posts)

4. That's not how statistics work.

You cannot generalize like that based on pointed questions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:34 PM

totodeinhere (12,718 posts)

5. That's still better than any other candidate.

When there are that many candidates still in the running 26% isn't bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:46 PM

thesquanderer (11,492 posts)

8. It means more people thought he made the best case than thought anyone else made the best case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:32 PM

uponit7771 (88,300 posts)

2. Sanders 3 month swing stat numbers vs Trump suck, that's what matters in the GE

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:36 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

6. No they don't.

He's +7 in Michigan. He's +2 in Wisconsin (the same as every Democrat). He's +5 in North Carolina, which is better than Biden. He's +4 in PA.

Bernie is also beating Trump by +18 with independents. Far better than any other candidate.

I wish you all would stop making these false claims about polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:38 PM

uponit7771 (88,300 posts)

7. Not Sanders 3 month swing state numbers vs Trump, I wish you would stop the spin

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

USALiberal (10,830 posts)

9. Thanks! Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:37 PM

Bumperstickers (199 posts)

10. Very telling poll

After Sanders got slammed from every angle including the crowd. Looks unstoppable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Bumperstickers (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:39 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

11. That crowd was bought.

They had to pay almost $2000 a ticket and they were only cheering the Billionaire.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:43 PM

Bumperstickers (199 posts)

12. That does not surprise me at all, what shame.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:13 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

13. Interesting - you say they were "bought" and then say they PAID almost $2000? That's contradictory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:21 AM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

14. Well, the tickets cost that much.

There is strong speculation that Bloomberg bought those tickets for his cheering crowd.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:26 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

15. "Strong speculation" - in other words nothing real. Why would the other candidates and other....

....organizations sell their tickets to Bloomberg instead of their own people or do what normally happens, give them to their supporters or members?

So Sanders supporters claim that Bloomberg stacked the audience, Krystal Ball says the DNC rigged the audience. Fact is, no one riged or stacked anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:28 AM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

16. Yeah they did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:29 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

17. You know that for a fact?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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