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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:54 PM Feb 2020

How will Biden look after Super Tuesdays?

CNN said Sanders is way ahead in polls for Texas, CA, etc.

California Democratic Primary
Sanders 35.3
Warren 17
Biden 11
Bloomberg 10
Buttigieg 9.7
Klobuchar 5.7

Texas Democratic Primary
Sanders 28.3
Biden 20.3
Bloomberg 19.7
Warren 13.0
Buttigieg 7.7
Klobuchar 3.3

Virginia Democratic Primary
Sanders 25.0
Bloomberg 19.5
Biden 18.5
Buttigieg 11.5
Warren 11.0
Klobuchar 7.0

Massachusetts Democratic Primary
Sanders 24.7
Warren 20.7
Buttigieg 13.3
Bloomberg 11.7
Biden 10.7
Klobuchar 6.0

Colorado Democratic Primary
Sanders 30.5
Warren 17.5
Buttigieg 13.0
Bloomberg 12.5
Biden 10.5
Klobuchar 6.0

more at https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/SuperTuesday.html
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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How will Biden look after Super Tuesdays? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 OP
Biden better get over 15% in California as a next step. dem4decades Feb 2020 #1
The problem is that he has no presence here ripcord Feb 2020 #2
Steyer just dropped out. He was polling at 3% in California. beastie boy Feb 2020 #4
I expect Steyer's supporters to go to progressive candidates. hay rick Feb 2020 #7
Thanks & welcome aboard! nt Lord Ludd Feb 2020 #9
Frankly Warren getting 15% statewide in CA squirecam Feb 2020 #12
Judging by SC data, Steyer has done better with older moderates & POCs than white young progressives beastie boy Feb 2020 #25
Thanks aeromanKC Feb 2020 #28
My opinion is based on a sample size of one- me. hay rick Feb 2020 #30
The media always has to have a horse race... MontanaMama Feb 2020 #3
Isn't it? dem4decades Feb 2020 #22
yeah the corporate media bdamomma Mar 2020 #42
SC has a way of 2naSalit Feb 2020 #5
MSNBC siad (super fluid and NOT at all a sure thing) that if only Bernie hits viability in CA Celerity Feb 2020 #6
Does the 250 include Warren hitting viability Moderateguy Feb 2020 #11
No squirecam Feb 2020 #13
You mean just Sanders? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #14
If just Sanders was viable statewide squirecam Feb 2020 #18
Thank You! Moderateguy Feb 2020 #19
no the 250 was with only Bernie above 15 in CA, and the 150 was with only Bernie and Biden above 15% Celerity Feb 2020 #16
Thanks! Moderateguy Feb 2020 #21
YW Celerity Feb 2020 #24
The polls had Biden winning SC by only 4% just two days ago. AGeddy Feb 2020 #8
Salient point empedocles Feb 2020 #29
that poster is just dead wrong with what they said Celerity Feb 2020 #32
that is not true at all, and unlike you, I give links Celerity Feb 2020 #31
... AGeddy Feb 2020 #34
I don't care about some Sanderite fantasy, why are you, a Biden supporter, pushing that Celerity Mar 2020 #38
Even the most optimistic Biden polls the past two days were well under the final result AGeddy Mar 2020 #41
there is a massive difference between 4% (your claim) and well over 20% nt Celerity Mar 2020 #43
We won't know till after Super Tuesday. But if you think the pre-SC polls are still relevant -- NO. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #10
they are relevant for the million plus votes already cast, the ST result will be far worse for Celerity Feb 2020 #23
According to Harry Enten, roughly 20% of CA early votes have come in AGeddy Feb 2020 #35
non sequitur nt Celerity Mar 2020 #40
Anyone that has already early voted in a Super Tuesday state... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #39
Unlike some candidates, Biden will have his hair combed still_one Feb 2020 #15
LOL!! peggysue2 Mar 2020 #44
Hmmmmmmmm still_one Mar 2020 #46
How will Biden look after Super Tuesdays? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #17
Biden may have more momentum mzmolly Feb 2020 #20
He needs to do well enough to keep it close. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #26
After Super Tuesday comes Florida squirecam Feb 2020 #27
Texas polling has been all over the place, MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #33
Florida is also a closed primary so... Moderateguy Mar 2020 #36
Yeah i expect Bernie may be MontanaFarmer Mar 2020 #37
Sen. Harris will probably endorse Joe NCProgressive Mar 2020 #45
That would be a game changer. ucrdem Mar 2020 #47
 

dem4decades

(11,270 posts)
1. Biden better get over 15% in California as a next step.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ripcord

(5,284 posts)
2. The problem is that he has no presence here
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:59 PM
Feb 2020

Sander and Bloomberg are saturating the state with ads, I've even seen a good number from Warren but nothing from Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,237 posts)
4. Steyer just dropped out. He was polling at 3% in California.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:03 PM
Feb 2020

If more than half of his former supporters vote for Biden, that gets Joe over 15%. And that's not counting the effects of today's primary results on any possible changes to the numbers reported in the OP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hay rick

(7,590 posts)
7. I expect Steyer's supporters to go to progressive candidates.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Speaking for myself. I just went to Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
9. Thanks & welcome aboard! nt
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
12. Frankly Warren getting 15% statewide in CA
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:12 PM
Feb 2020

helps Biden too.

If only Sanders is viable statewide in CA, that hurts everyone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,237 posts)
25. Judging by SC data, Steyer has done better with older moderates & POCs than white young progressives
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:19 PM
Feb 2020

It may be different in California, I just don't have any references to make this conclusion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
28. Thanks
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:30 PM
Feb 2020

That's what I was looking for when I clicked on this OP!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hay rick

(7,590 posts)
30. My opinion is based on a sample size of one- me.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:33 PM
Feb 2020

I'm old, white, and progressive (whatever that means). I will say that my choice was based almost entirely on Steyer's insistence on the primary importance of dealing with the climate crisis. I supported Inslee before he dropped out for the same reason. I think, given the horror of forest fires in recent years, climate change is also an extremely important issue in California.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
3. The media always has to have a horse race...
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:59 PM
Feb 2020

So that people will watch their pundits spew whatever it is they spew.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
42. yeah the corporate media
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:13 AM
Mar 2020

wants the ratings and the money. I am learning to take what the media says with a grain of salt. These pundits and talking heads only want the status quo, they are totally unfazed what the American people are hoping for in a candidate.

Let them not to make the choice of who we want to be our candidate. Let's shake the media up, and move into the 21st century.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

2naSalit

(86,345 posts)
5. SC has a way of
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:03 PM
Feb 2020

helping shift the sentiment in primaries. I hope this win will broadcast far ad wide enough to carry him. But for now still hope Warren picks up some more delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
6. MSNBC siad (super fluid and NOT at all a sure thing) that if only Bernie hits viability in CA
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

he will end ST with around a 250 delegate lead (for all states who have voted so far) over Biden. If Biden hits viability in CA that overall Sanders leads drops to around 150.

Those are pretty close to pure guesses they warned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
11. Does the 250 include Warren hitting viability
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020

The polls have her over 15% in CA

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. No
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020

Kornaki was just doing it with Biden at 15%.

Warren at 15% would make Sanders lead less.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
14. You mean just Sanders?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
18. If just Sanders was viable statewide
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:16 PM
Feb 2020

He would be up 250. If Biden had 15% Biden would be down 140.

He didn’t do Warren also at 15%, but if all 3 did, the Sanders lead would be less.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
16. no the 250 was with only Bernie above 15 in CA, and the 150 was with only Bernie and Biden above 15%
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:16 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
8. The polls had Biden winning SC by only 4% just two days ago.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:08 PM
Feb 2020

Polls are lagging indicators.

All of those numbers will move over the next 72 hours.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
29. Salient point
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:32 PM
Feb 2020

Voters seem very fluid. BS not a 'strong' candidate, imo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
31. that is not true at all, and unlike you, I give links
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:40 PM
Feb 2020

https://www.scribd.com/document/442330110/Fox-News-Poll-January-5-8-2020-South-Carolina

S.C.
JAN 5-8, 2020
A-
Fox News
808 LV Biden
36%
Biden +21

Steyer
15%
Sanders
14%
Warren
10%
Buttigieg
4%
Bloomberg
2%
Booker
2%
Yang
2%
Gabbard
1%
Klobuchar
1%
Bennet
0%
Delaney
0%
Patrick
0%
Williamson
0%



https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/election/article239675533.html

S.C.
JAN 9-13, 2020
GQR Research*
600 LV
Biden
44%
Biden +29

Sanders
15%
Steyer
12%
Warren
10%
Buttigieg
5%



https://surveyresearch-ecu.reportablenews.com/pr/south-carolina-poll-biden-leads-presidential-primary-among-likely-democratic-voters-but-many-open-to-changing-their-mind-before-election-day-trump-and-graham-lead-comfortably-in-general-election-matchups

S.C.
JAN 31-FEB 2, 2020
East Carolina University
469 LV Biden
37%
Biden +18

Steyer
19%
Sanders
14%
Warren
8%
Buttigieg
4%
Yang
3%
Klobuchar
2%
Gabbard
2%
Bloomberg
1%


https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/SouthCarolinaResultsFebruary2020.pdf


S.C.
FEB 23-24, 2020
Public Policy Polling
866 LV Biden
36%
Biden +15

Sanders
21%
Warren
8%
Buttigieg
7%
Steyer
7%
Gabbard
6%
Klobuchar
3%



http://newsstand.clemson.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2020-Palmetto-Poll-Results.pdf

S.C.
FEB 17-25, 2020
Clemson University
650 LV Biden
35%
Biden +18

Steyer
17%
Sanders
13%
Buttigieg
8%
Warren
8%
Klobuchar
4%
Gabbard
2%




https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_sc_022720.pdf/

FEB 23-25, 2020
A+
Monmouth University
454 LV Biden
36%
Biden +20

Sanders
16%
Steyer
15%
Warren
8%
Buttigieg
6%
Klobuchar
4%
Gabbard
1%



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200227_SC.pdf

FEB 26, 2020
Starboard Communications
1,102 LV Biden
40%
Biden +28

Steyer
12%
Sanders
11%
Warren
9%
Buttigieg
9%
Klobuchar
6%
Gabbard
2%





http://emersonpolling.com/2020/02/27/south-carolina-2020-biden-poised-to-win-his-first-contest/


S.C.
FEB 26-27, 2020
A-
Emerson College
425 LV Biden
41%
Biden +17

Sanders
25%
Buttigieg
11%
Steyer
11%
Klobuchar
6%
Warren
5%
Gabbard
2%



https://www.fitsnews.com/2020/02/28/2020-first-in-the-south-democratic-presidential-primary-the-oracle-speaks/

S.C.
FEB 26-27, 2020
Trafalgar Group
1,081 LV Biden
44%
Biden +21

Sanders
23%
Steyer
11%
Buttigieg
10%
Klobuchar
6%
Warren
6%
Gabbard
2%
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
38. I don't care about some Sanderite fantasy, why are you, a Biden supporter, pushing that
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:07 AM
Mar 2020

outlier as if it was the only indicator?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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AGeddy

(509 posts)
41. Even the most optimistic Biden polls the past two days were well under the final result
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:10 AM
Mar 2020

Polls are lagging indicators that don't pick up momentum swings.


And I am using that poll because it is the one that everyone was citing just 48 hours ago. Throwing it in the "sanderite" faces, so to speak.
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Celerity

(43,138 posts)
43. there is a massive difference between 4% (your claim) and well over 20% nt
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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highplainsdem

(48,920 posts)
10. We won't know till after Super Tuesday. But if you think the pre-SC polls are still relevant -- NO.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Celerity

(43,138 posts)
23. they are relevant for the million plus votes already cast, the ST result will be far worse for
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:19 PM
Feb 2020

Biden than if no votes were cast yet. He would have crushed Bernie if those early votes were all done on Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
35. According to Harry Enten, roughly 20% of CA early votes have come in
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:57 PM
Feb 2020

80% to go. That's a lot of room for Biden to make up room and get well above 15% and limit Sanders' delegate haul.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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W_HAMILTON

(7,840 posts)
39. Anyone that has already early voted in a Super Tuesday state...
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:07 AM
Mar 2020

...probably is the type that knew who they were going to vote for and wouldn't be swayed by the results in another state (e.g., South Carolina) to begin with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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still_one

(92,061 posts)
15. Unlike some candidates, Biden will have his hair combed
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,825 posts)
44. LOL!!
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:38 AM
Mar 2020

Hummmm. Who could you be talking about????

If I were to vote in a presidential
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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
17. How will Biden look after Super Tuesdays?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:16 PM
Feb 2020
Better than Bloomberg.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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mzmolly

(50,980 posts)
20. Biden may have more momentum
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:18 PM
Feb 2020

going forward, than the polls reflect.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
26. He needs to do well enough to keep it close.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

And then focus on winning in the later states. I think after Super Tuesday, we'll see some other candidates drop out and the race will be sorted more clearly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
27. After Super Tuesday comes Florida
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:22 PM
Feb 2020

Where Bernie isn’t currently expected to do well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
33. Texas polling has been all over the place,
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020

and a recent Virginia poll showed Biden gaining fast (leading i think). I think he'll be behind due to CA, make up most of that in Florida, and go battle Bernie in the rust belt after that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
36. Florida is also a closed primary so...
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:00 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
37. Yeah i expect Bernie may be
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:03 AM
Mar 2020

Nonviable statewide in Florida.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
45. Sen. Harris will probably endorse Joe
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM
Mar 2020

and he will win California

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primary today, I would vote for:
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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
47. That would be a game changer.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:54 AM
Mar 2020

For both of them so I hope she does this. Not optimistic though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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