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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
2. Wasserman Schultz: Sanders Made Me The "Boogeyman" nt
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
8. I'm sure Bernie is tracking down Tim Canova as we speak....
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
5. Oh really? Go get stuffed?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:01 AM
Mar 2020

I can see that these primaries bring out the best in us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Good political lies are efficient poisons for receptive
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:37 AM
Mar 2020

targets -- -- they bond to the tissues and no amount of truth can eliminate them.

Some will always refuse to understand that, while Schultz did some things she shouldn't have, they not only weren't a fraction as bad as Sanders told them, but that they weren't a tiny fraction as bad as many things Sanders has done with their approval. She is the very epitome of democratic principle compared to him. And they won't notice how many of the targets he sicced them on were women or wonder what in themselves made them so receptive.

Sanders didn't just give others Trump, McConnell and a far right-dominated courts, and he didn't only do enormous damage to progressivism in America that serves others, he knowingly did that to all his supporters.

And we don't know if we'll be able to recover or if progressive government in America, including the national healthcare he uses as a shiny object to distract so many of his own followers with, is already doomed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
4. Beloved and well respected in South Florida
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020

We love Debbie. Therefore, Sanders or anyone who tries to belittle her will be at their own peril here. I'm no longer in her district but she's still my congresswoman. The fact that she has kept her seat despite the smears and being primaried, should be a clue to the clueless.
I believe this will carry weight here in S. FL. In fact, I'm now for the first time in this primary season leaning towards Biden. I was opposed to Biden entering the race. I was Harris then Warren supporter, then undecided but Biden has shown that he has the tenacity, he has the grit and he's the unifier who will heal our party and the nation. We need to tear down walls and build bridges. Sanders is not the person to do that. A candidacy built on division cannot unite the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mitch96

(13,883 posts)
6. No all south Floridians like her
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020

After her game playing against some 2016 candidates and her resignation, she is not my favorite.
Or was that just political gamesmanship like the prez..?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-wikileaks-emails.html

https://thinkprogress.org/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resigns-from-dnc-in-wake-of-wikileaks-email-dump-d294bbdffb16/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
9. Where did I say ALL like her?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:44 AM
Mar 2020

Your links rehashing 2016 is referenced in my reply and my rejection of the Russian's divisive campaign is still fresh in my memory.
She is beloved in South Florida. I didn't say she's loved by ALL. Nobody is loved by ALL. I'm too much a pragmatist to speak in such extremes. Furthermore, it's implied that she isn't loved by all if she's being smeared and primaried.
However, the proof of the love and respect I expressed, is in the actual votes. She has kept her seat since the 2016 smear campaign and has survived being primaried by a progressive. Again, I will say that she is beloved in South Florida. If I still lived in her district I'd happily vote for her. But I'll most enthusiastically vote for my congressman Ted Deutch instead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mitch96

(13,883 posts)
15. "Beloved and well respected in South Florida We love Debbie"
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:08 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry I took "beloved and well respected" out of context.. Lets say Dem's I know do not think she is "beloved and well respected"... better?
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If I were to vote in a presidential
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
11. She engaged in no such "game playing."
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:16 AM
Mar 2020

The DNC rigging the 2016 primaries, or even attempting to influence them, is not a real part of American history. The false claim that they did so IS a real part of American history.

It is sad that so many people fell for this nonsense. And it is even sadder that Vladimir Putin's manipulations were portrayed as truth telling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
13. Why don't you read Donna Brazile's book. Unless you think she's lying too.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. Her book seems quite silly.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 02:51 PM
Mar 2020

First of all, Donna Brazille was not DNC chair when anything was supposedly being rigged.

Second, she makes a big deal about a deal that Clinton signed with the DNC to raise money. But Bernie signed a similar deal. And any influence over the DNC did not take place until she became the de facto nominee. Not that there was anything the DNC could do to help her much, given its relative unimportance.

Third, Donna Brazille's real bombshell was that she herself seriously considered throwing out the will of the people, when Hillary had a sick day on 9/11, and handing the nomination to Joe Biden.

The media wanted blood after Hillary lost. It was kind of similar to those 5 days between Iowa and New Hampshire in 2008, when they were just determined to pile on and spew out as much hate as possible, with the election results allowing them to declare their hatred to be validated. Donna Brazille gave them, and a lot of other people, what they wanted. Telling the story she told got her recognition, praise, and book sales.

I don't even know if it deserves to be called "lies"--it was just a bunch of nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mitch96

(13,883 posts)
16. "attempting to influence them, is not a real part of American history."
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:10 PM
Mar 2020

Not to rehash or beat a dead horse but I disagree with you. It happened.
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. I disagree with you. It didn't happen and the claim that it did is absurd IMO.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:26 PM
Mar 2020

Not that an impotent, toothless organization like the DNC can influence the race too much, assuming they even wanted to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mitch96

(13,883 posts)
18. Not being there myself, I googled it and a bunch of stuff came up
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

We believe what we want to believe and I still disagree. I'm bored with this and I'm done.
Have a good day, sir..
m

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
7. I also didn't want Biden to get in initially and was a Harris supporter from the day she announced..
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

it took me a while to settle into Biden after she left the race. Like you said, Biden is a unifier and has the best chance to beat 45. Hoping now he chooses Harris as his VP, if she wants it, I think they would be unbeatable.

Polls in Florida not looking good for Sanders. Thank you for your input from a Floridia.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
10. Wanna compete in Florida. Nominate Joe
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 10:59 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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