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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:45 PM Mar 2020

Throw out all Super Tuesday polls prior to yesterday

They are very much outdated now. Many people will coalesce to Biden now that it’s becoming a two person race.

I’m not saying it’ll be enough to win, say, California. But Biden will outperform Super Tuesday polls now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Throw out all Super Tuesday polls prior to yesterday (Original Post) DrToast Mar 2020 OP
538 was already showing Biden trending up in several ST states before SC. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #1
Yes indeed. Biden was ahead in most states until the NH primary, where he lost.... George II Mar 2020 #2
Many DownriverDem Mar 2020 #28
Check this out--explanation for the point you make: tblue37 Mar 2020 #3
Agree. You even see it on DU DrToast Mar 2020 #4
The moderate candidates were dividing the moderate vote before IronLionZion Mar 2020 #17
Correct. Any poll taken before yesterday is meaningless. The ground has shifted. AGeddy Mar 2020 #5
No polls are accurate. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #6
The polls also said that Biden could underperform in SC Dopers_Greed Mar 2020 #7
That seems likely (Biden outperforming the polls on ST). Laelth Mar 2020 #8
Polls schmolls. mwooldri Mar 2020 #9
Most people that early vote aren't changing their minds DrToast Mar 2020 #11
they do AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #21
Agree grantcart Mar 2020 #10
I know it will not likely turn around the final primary vote in California... bsiebs Mar 2020 #12
I agree Frances Mar 2020 #14
I hope you are right. But here is my main concern: StevieM Mar 2020 #13
Except many people have already voted. nt pnwmom Mar 2020 #15
Yes, like 3 million people I believe. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #25
Yep. I early voted in CA over a week ago. stopbush Mar 2020 #29
i'd say this is true. it also speaks to how powerful our social environment is to decision making. Kurt V. Mar 2020 #16
Biden On Super Tuesday JGug1 Mar 2020 #18
Anyone else get feeling now and then that Bernie people are trying to blackmail yhe primary voters? bobbieinok Mar 2020 #20
Yes. Been hearing that too. mdelaguna Mar 2020 #30
If Bernie's people "bolt" they are not willing to deal with the REAL PROBLEM ... TRUMP! usaf-vet Mar 2020 #31
I'm in California, and I'm definitely voting for Joe. somaticexperiencing Mar 2020 #19
Sanders has one big problem in California jmowreader Mar 2020 #22
Californnia usually votes in June ucrdem Mar 2020 #23
Regular folks who don't live and breath politics don't know it's a two person race Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #24
Right on the money bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #26
Yes but... brooklynite Mar 2020 #27
roughly 2.7 mil or 10% in Calif by Thursday ucrdem Mar 2020 #32
 

TwilightZone

(25,456 posts)
1. 538 was already showing Biden trending up in several ST states before SC.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

Those trends will be jump-started now. As you noted, we'll see if there's enough time for it to matter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Yes indeed. Biden was ahead in most states until the NH primary, where he lost....
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

Many of them flipped to Sanders.

As they say, it's a whole new ballgame.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
28. Many
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders supporters are politically naive. Congress will never give Sanders what he would need for his programs. Go Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
3. Check this out--explanation for the point you make:
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

Interesting take on Biden's chances going forward:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287605142

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
4. Agree. You even see it on DU
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

Biden up to 18%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
17. The moderate candidates were dividing the moderate vote before
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:32 PM
Mar 2020

while liberals united around Bernie. Now more moderates are uniting around Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
5. Correct. Any poll taken before yesterday is meaningless. The ground has shifted.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
6. No polls are accurate.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:56 PM
Mar 2020

No one I know has answered or take any poll. If they keep polling the same people how can that be accurate.

We have Op Chaos working against all of the candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
7. The polls also said that Biden could underperform in SC
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. That seems likely (Biden outperforming the polls on ST).
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 02:03 PM
Mar 2020

But Bernie's still gonna pull the highest number of delegates, and Bloomberg isn't dropping out.

This thing is far from over.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mwooldri

(10,302 posts)
9. Polls schmolls.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

Plus early voting means there's a lot of votes in the bag already. I don't know how many vote on actual election day as opposed to prior, but those who voted early would not have been influenced by the SC primary result - they already voted.

Though it is looking a lot like a two horse race now - Joe or Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
11. Most people that early vote aren't changing their minds
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

So they’re not the people that would be influenced by SC anyway. But there’s still a lot of people out there that will be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
21. they do
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

I voted early for Pete but had I waited, I’d vote for Biden today in CA.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bsiebs

(688 posts)
12. I know it will not likely turn around the final primary vote in California...
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:14 PM
Mar 2020

... but I have refocused my commitment to actually wining the general election.. while my heart is still with Warren... I have to go with Joe...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Frances

(8,544 posts)
14. I agree
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:23 PM
Mar 2020

I will vote Biden though I also liked other candidates too
My consolation about Warren is that if we can get a Dem president and Dem senate, she will be able to attain some of her goals
Should Biden or Bernie get the nomination the Dem party should push hard for a Dem senate

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
13. I hope you are right. But here is my main concern:
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

A lot of people still get their news from the weekday local nightly news. Or from the weekday morning shows. Or from weekday radio news programs during drive time. And I worry that there are plenty of voters who have not taken in this story.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
15. Except many people have already voted. nt
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:25 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
25. Yes, like 3 million people I believe. nt
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
29. Yep. I early voted in CA over a week ago.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
16. i'd say this is true. it also speaks to how powerful our social environment is to decision making.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JGug1

(320 posts)
18. Biden On Super Tuesday
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020

He is going to have to out perform by a lot to sustain an argument that he can win the nomination. Bernie must NOT be disallowed based on the second vote at the convention, if at all possible. His people will bolt if they believe he has been screwed with badly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
20. Anyone else get feeling now and then that Bernie people are trying to blackmail yhe primary voters?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

You do what we say or we walk!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mdelaguna

(471 posts)
30. Yes. Been hearing that too.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
31. If Bernie's people "bolt" they are not willing to deal with the REAL PROBLEM ... TRUMP!
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

Are they not willing to make the same commitment that a lot if not most DUers have made.....

Vote Blue no matter Who.

I would prefer Warren but it doesn't look possible this time.

Trump HAS TO GO!

No Democrat can stay home if their candidate isn't on the ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
19. I'm in California, and I'm definitely voting for Joe.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

Formerly a Bernie supporter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
22. Sanders has one big problem in California
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

California already has very high taxes, because California takes care of its people and that takes money. The Sanders agenda is to tax the living shit out of everyone, so at some point even the most altruistic among us have to say, “enough is enough.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
23. Californnia usually votes in June
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:56 PM
Mar 2020

meaning the usual early voters including myself weren't necessarily ready for this one. Plus there are the usual local races, bonds, brand-new rule changes, and now Census information so as usual the CA ballot is long and complicated AND early. So I predict early voting won't be as extensive as in 2016 for example.

Meaning, I think Biden will do much better than predicted here once the votes are all counted, and that won't be finished for several weeks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
24. Regular folks who don't live and breath politics don't know it's a two person race
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

So I think Bloomberg is still going to get quite a lot of votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
26. Right on the money
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:17 PM
Mar 2020

This is now shifting. The changes over the last 8 days will be seen in the next polls and on Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,488 posts)
27. Yes but...
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

A lot of Super Tuesday early votes are already baked in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
32. roughly 2.7 mil or 10% in Calif by Thursday
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:46 PM
Mar 2020

and that's going by 2016 turnout. Tuesday's turnout might be bigger, and SC was yesterday and widely discussed, so I think Biden will far exceed predictions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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