This took a lot of courage.

[DanTex]

I don't think Biden is responsible for what people supporting him do online, but it would be good if he followed Bernie's example and denounced this sort of thing, in the interest of civility.
We should be supporting recovering addicts, not shaming them.

Link to tweet

[Moderateguy]

1. He got into law school with a criminal record?

[rzemanfl]

3. First question in my mind too. n/t

[Gravitycollapse]

4. Why shouldn't he?

[Moderateguy]

6. Because most states won't let you take the bar if you have a record

[Gravitycollapse]

8. The practice is exclusionary and wrong. And I know there are exceptions.

[Moderateguy]

9. I didn't know there were exceptions... learnt something new

Thanks

[Gravitycollapse]

14. Yeah it all depends on the person's record. You can explain it to the Bar.

Nothing is guaranteed. But exceptions can be made--usually for the more privileged.

[Moderateguy]

16. ANY exception can be and will be made for the more privileged

[ehrnst]

18. Real sweetheart.. Trashed Warren after giving Bernie credit for her appointment to the CFPB

Link to tweet

Totally credible concerning any candidate challenging Sanders...

[mr_lebowski]

2. As a survivor myself ... I'm completely not following you or this tweet ...

Is the (arrested) guy in the tweet closely linked to Sanders or something?

[padah513]

5. Maybe if Bernie denounced what his supporters do immediately

Instead of waiting to see which way the wind is blowing? Maybe if he went to Selma? Can't have it both ways.

[ehrnst]

12. Sad isn't it?

[Gravitycollapse]

7. I don't expect Biden to denounce this.

I'm actually not entirely sure what is going on.

[DanTex]

11. A Bernie supporter is being harassed online for his drug history.

Given that Bernie has been asked to denounce behavior of his online supporters, and he has done that, I think it would be appropriate for other candidates to do the same.

[Gravitycollapse]

17. But how does this relate to Biden as a candidate? Is he instigating it? Do his values support it?

I ask these same questions when people try to get Sanders to apologize/denounce.

[ehrnst]

19. A bit more about the guy in the OP.

Link to tweet

[Gravitycollapse]

24. To be frank, I don't care about any of that and it by no means excuses the harassment.

Just because I don't blame Biden does not mean I'm condoning that nonsense. He paid the price and turned his life around.

[DanTex]

22. Well, I figure since Bernie is always being asked to apologize for what his supporters do,

and Bernie has actually addressed online harassment, the same standards should apply to everyone.

[ehrnst]

27. "the same standards should apply to everyone."

Except Senator Sanders? When he says every candidate should be held to the standard that he sets for Biden, and promises to live up to himself?

Link to tweet

[ehrnst]

30. Bernie has given a rather weak tea, whataboutism tinged, generalized address of online harassment

So I guess you'll be ok with that standard from Biden.

How numerous are the reports of swarming on the part Biden supporters again?

[TwilightZone]

35. "the same standards should apply to everyone"

Then why haven't you called out Sanders' lie about young voters in Iowa? It was clearly false, and you have no trouble holding other candidates to the standard of perfection.

If you have, feel free to provide a link.

[DanTex]

36. LOL. What do young voters in Iowa have to do with this vicious case of online harassment by

supporters of a candidate not named "Bernie"?

[ehrnst]

55. Do you think that Biden, like Bernie, might suggest that those harassers are "bots?"

And why don't you answer the question about that lie about young Iowa voters?

[LanternWaste]

64. I see... you're pretending to make a point. Nice, fractious, forced and awkward try.

Again, ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in you invoking a consistency of standards.

Let's make it twenty.

[ehrnst]

10. More desperate whataboutism.

That double digit loss in SC is hitting some people way harder than others, apparently.

Is this OP returning the responses you were hoping for any more than all the other OPs trying to deflect from that defeat?

Because these OPs seem to simply give people who have facts and examples that refute your message lots of opportunities to share them.

I can tell you I've learned a lot from the rebuttals to your numerous OPs. I don't think you have, though, because you keep on cranking them out.

[squirecam]

13. You mean this guy?

Samuel D. Finkelstein II
@CANCEL_SAM
·
5h
August 13, 2010

“Sen. Bernie Sanders today pressed President Obama to name consumer advocate and Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.”

Ten years later, Warren is selling her soul to sabotage Bernie. Sad.

[ehrnst]

15. OMG.... the SAME guy? Well, that puts the OP in a very different light.

[still_one]

21. +++

[sheshe2]

38. WTH?!

Am I reading this correctly?

squirecam (2,337 posts)
13. You mean this guy?

Samuel D. Finkelstein II
@CANCEL_SAM
·
5h
August 13, 2010

“Sen. Bernie Sanders today pressed President Obama to name consumer advocate and Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.”

Ten years later, Warren is selling her soul to sabotage Bernie. Sad.

Sanders endorsed Warren, to head an agency that she formed. She developed it. It was her baby. He endorsed her to head it. Now because she is running against him she has sold her soul???? Say what?

It was a dayum endorsement. Period. She owes him nothing and has every right to run for President.


...………………..



Warrior Warren has earned place on Dem ticket

She was an active and engaged problem-solver during a time when our nation was on an economic downward spiral with several massive institutions headed for bankruptcy — saved by a historic economic turnaround by then President Obama.

snip

Warren’s creation of a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was a defining moment for me because we needed someone in there fighting for the average person against predatory and patently dishonest practices. She didn’t just talk the talk like so many but actually walked the walk. Her CFPB helped put the brakes on out-of-control financial practices, and so far it is estimated that $12 billion has gone back to consumers from mortgage companies, banks, payday lenders, credit unions and other financial institutions.

More.https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/01/warrior-warren-has-earned-place-on-dem-ticket/

This from a RW rag. The Boston Herald. Imagine that.

[DanTex]

23. I don't see how his political views have anything to do with the online harassment he's receiving.

The fact that he is critical of Warren's campaign obviously doesn't justify people attacking him for being a victim of opioid addiction.

[squirecam]

28. When you attack, smear and troll others on twitter

You should expect some blowback. I find sympathy to be hard in such situations.

[highplainsdem]

33. +1,000,000

[ehrnst]

57. Your source is a self-describe "[Dis]content Creator"....

Interesting that you're ready to discredit the Washington Post as too biased against Bernie, but you're calling a [Dis]content Creator who seeks media attention on a show that bashed the Democratic Party and supports Bernie a reliable source for information that tries to promote claim that Biden supporters use the same online tactics as have been reported of Sanders supporters?

https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/

[TwilightZone]

20. "Ten years later, Warren is selling her soul to sabotage Bernie. Sad."

Kind of hard to take this guy seriously, but I'm not surprised you're defending him.

[DanTex]

25. He may not share your political views, but that doesn't justify the online harassment he's

getting. Obviously.

[TwilightZone]

31. "Selling her soul" isn't a political view.

It's childish vindictiveness. And, again, not surprised that you have no problem with it.

Your intense need to justify the behavior of Sanders supporters, staff, and surrogates with random whataboutism is noted.

[DanTex]

34. Of course it is. And it certainly doesn't justify people digging up his history of addiction.

[TwilightZone]

37. There's only one post about it on his entire feed.

One post is not harassment. It's also not "flooding".

You're being had. You just can't see it. The guy is shit-stirring.

[DanTex]

39. I have no idea why you would think that.

That one screenshot is obviously not the extent of the harassment he's been receiving, it's just an illustration.

[TwilightZone]

53. Speaking of being had....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=608396

[Demsrule86]

46. You mean like the union leaders in Nevada who were doxed by sanders supporters?

[DanTex]

47. Yes. And I'm glad Bernie denounced that, even though it wasn't evident whether that was actually

Bernie supporters.

[ehrnst]

60. Ah, yes, the attempted denial that they were his supporters. I guess you'll accept that

from Biden as well?

[ehrnst]

58. Your source is a self-described "[Dis)content creator" twitter troll who appears on anti-Dem media.

Pretty desperate whataboutism - using a publicity seeking troll for Sanders who claims he's a "victim" of Biden supporter trolls.

https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM



Looks like he can dish it out, but he can't take it... even if his claims of harassment are true.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[SidDithers]

26. +1. The whataboutism is strong with that one...nt

Sid

[ehrnst]

29. Samuel D. Finklestein II - "[Dis]content Creator" - could the harassers be fake?

Last edited Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:14 AM - Edit history (1)

https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM

If one is going to discredit whatever "the media" says that doesn't flatter Sanders, whey they simply reporting facts, perhaps you should apply the same standards to publicity seekers who are Sanders supporters and not subject to any editorial standards?

[TwilightZone]

32. Yep, the guy is a shit-stirrer.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if his "harassers" are fake.

[LizBeth]

40. You keep looking to justify Sanders supporters. Stop.

[DanTex]

41. What? Justify? I think it's courageous for this recovering addict to address

his past in such a forthright way in the face of online harassment from people who disagree with his politics. Do you disagree?

[ehrnst]

61. Do you disagree that this person is an anti-Dem troll, and a self-described "[Dis]content creator?"

And what does it say when someone is reduced to using such a source to push tan agenda to minimize harassment by Sanders supporters?

As Towlie put it..

He decided to advertise his political views on Twitter so he has chosen to also be a target of whatever backlash may develop. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. If he didn't want his name smeared, then he should have kept his opinions to himself or at least not broadcast them on social media.

[TwilightZone]

42. Sanders Supporter: Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is "a bloodless asexual."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287608116

Let us know when Sanders condemns this.

Oh, wait, his campaign has a close relationship with the hosts.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287608116#post15

Oh, right, they were just "jokes". Where have I heard that before?

See, we can do whataboutism, too. The difference, of course, is that this shit is condoned by the campaign. Your nonsense is a bunch of random yahoos who have no direct involvement with Biden or his campaign.

See the difference? Of course you don't.

[DanTex]

43. Huh? I don't see what that has to do with this courageous man addressing the online harassment

he's been getting from people who disagree with his political views.

[squirecam]

48. Oh yes. The courage....

Samuel D. Finkelstein II
@CANCEL_SAM
·
Feb 27
Stop comparing Warren to Hermione.

Warren would be in Slytherin

[TwilightZone]

49. So, you're fine with the podcast, eh?

There's a surprise.

[ehrnst]

56. You think that they might be bots harassing him? Bernie suggested that harassers might be bots...

at least if they're harassing in his name.

[ehrnst]

59. The "Huh?" evasion - deployed when someone landed a particularly painful blow with some facts.

[ehrnst]

63. The "courage" to troll and be a [Dis]content creator" and then whine when someone

comments on his publicly available criminal history?

As Towlie said:

He decided to advertise his political views on Twitter so he has chosen to also be a target of whatever backlash may develop. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. If he didn't want his name smeared, then he should have kept his opinions to himself or at least not broadcast them on social media.

[NYMinute]

44. ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511730765#post13

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511140171

[TwilightZone]

50. Hmm, that's actually not that surprising.

I think he's whatever will get him the most attention at any particular time.

[NYMinute]

65. +1,000,000 nt

[Demsrule86]

45. I an laughing so had I can hardly type. Sander doesn't take any responsibility for what his

supporters do.

[Celerity]

51. that twitter troll in your OP is a perfect example of the Sanderite social hit job patrol on parade

actually not a perfect example as many are worse

like the Sanders supporting gay-bashers of Pete


but your example of some good person is a real piece of shit as well, m8

why do you try and glorify that fuckstick???

seriously


from that thread of yours:

Samuel D. Finkelstein II
@CANCEL_SAM
·
5h
August 13, 2010

“Sen. Bernie Sanders today pressed President Obama to name consumer advocate and Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.”

Ten years later, Warren is selling her soul to sabotage Bernie. Sad.

Link to tweet

that bloke is scum

here is a racist attack on Warren

Link to tweet

here he is calling Pete a rat

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

retweeting more Pete as a rat

Link to tweet

and again

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

accusing Pete of being a CIA leaker

Link to tweet

accusing Bloomberg of being a Putin puppet

Link to tweet

[TwilightZone]

52. This is a game he plays.

He posts fake outrage then picks fights with people and acts like he's an idiot.

In the 2016 cycle, he pretended to be a Clinton supporter and did this with Sanders supporters the whole time. I have no idea how he's still here.

I'm not sure why I don't just ignore him. I guess he's interesting in a train-wreck sort of way, though it's all an act.

[ehrnst]

62. +1000.

[fleabiscuit]

54. There is a twitter block and report feature for fakes like that. That would help spreading the BS.