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msongs

(67,395 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:24 AM Mar 2020

2800 X $1 is not morally superior to 1 X $2800. both are the legal limit in a primary

in this event the playing field is leveled between any two donors. Now that Pete is out all our candidates are millionaires so maybe they should not be donating to themselves lol

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2800 X $1 is not morally superior to 1 X $2800. both are the legal limit in a primary (Original Post) msongs Mar 2020 OP
Absolutely correct NYMinute Mar 2020 #1
Good point. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #2
I would rather a candidate have many small donors than a fewer big ones. Gravitycollapse Mar 2020 #3
Both examples were of a single donor (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #5
You missed the point. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #7
Are you saying that 1 person makes 2800 separate donations? FoxNewsSucks Mar 2020 #8
Jaysus. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #9
Jaysus. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2020 #10
Apparently many do. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #13
The difference is, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2020 #14
How about over 850 times? ehrnst Mar 2020 #17
I'm sure you're aware of superPACs. Gravitycollapse Mar 2020 #11
There are still some regulations, but some still insist on hiding their BIG donors' identities. ehrnst Mar 2020 #16
You're right. I did misread the OP. Apologies. Gravitycollapse Mar 2020 #12
Well, the first one makes the processing company a lot more money (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #4
Making things about morality and purity is easier than discussing policies and issues. betsuni Mar 2020 #6
In general, no donation is superior to any other gulliver Mar 2020 #15
 

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
3. I would rather a candidate have many small donors than a fewer big ones.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:32 AM
Mar 2020

I prefer a candidate supported by the people, not wealthy donors. That's my position and people are free to disagree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Both examples were of a single donor (nt)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:34 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
7. You missed the point.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:48 AM
Mar 2020

2800 is the legal max, donated once or 2800 times one buck at a time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
8. Are you saying that 1 person makes 2800 separate donations?
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:52 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
9. Jaysus.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:08 AM
Mar 2020

No.

By law. Max donation by a millionaire or billionaire is 2800. Any individual can donate 1 dollar 2800 times.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
10. Jaysus.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:19 AM
Mar 2020

What working American has time to donate $1 2,800 times?

The point is the opinion of 2,800 workers who donate $1 each should outweigh the single rich bastard who directs his assistant to send $2800.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
13. Apparently many do.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:32 AM
Mar 2020

Sanders prides himself on those very donations.

Wow.


What working American has time to donate $1 2,800 times?

The point is the opinion of 2,800 workers who donate $1 each should outweigh the single rich bastard who directs his assistant to send $2800.


Your post? I even...
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
14. The difference is,
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:45 AM
Mar 2020

2,800 individuals making separate $1 donations vs one person making a $2800 donation or 2800 separate $1 contributions to give the illusion of more unique donors.

If I misunderstood your post, sorry. But I don't think there are many actual working people who make 2800 separate $1 donations even if they can afford to do so.

And yes, I do think that 2800 individual opinions should outvote one single vote.

1 person = 1 vote, otherwise it's just being bought.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. How about over 850 times?
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:40 PM
Mar 2020
The February day that Bernie Sanders began his second Democratic presidential campaign, Christine Peloza gave him $27, the amount Mr. Sanders often boasted was the average donation in his first run. Then, she kept giving, in $3 increments, clicking donate up to 20 times a day.

By the end of June, Ms. Peloza, a 34-year-old office manager at an elderly care facility in Illinois, had donated more than 850 times to Mr. Sanders.


https://www.allsides.com/news/2019-10-25-0625/small-donors-get-creative-give-over-and-over-2020-candidates
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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
11. I'm sure you're aware of superPACs.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:21 AM
Mar 2020

Yes, there are limits on direct donations. But there is little or no regulation on PACs. And they’re basically black holes for mega donors.

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. There are still some regulations, but some still insist on hiding their BIG donors' identities.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020
Under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, an entity directly or indirectly established by a federal candidate or officeholder is not allowed to “solicit, receive, direct, transfer, or spend funds in connection with an election for Federal office” unless the “funds are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements” of federal law.

According to Our Revolution’s tax returns showing contribution amounts but not contributor names, data compiled and first reported by the Associated Press, from 2016 to 2018 Our Revolution raised almost $1 million dollars from contributors who gave in excess of the applicable $5,000 contribution limit, including multiple contributions of between $100,000 and $300,000. Our Revolution has not disclosed any of its contributors to the FEC, as required by federal campaign finance law.


https://www.commoncause.org/press-release/common-cause-files-complaint-against-pro-bernie-sanders-group-our-revolution-for-violating-soft-money-ban/
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
12. You're right. I did misread the OP. Apologies.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:22 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Well, the first one makes the processing company a lot more money (nt)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:33 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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betsuni

(25,467 posts)
6. Making things about morality and purity is easier than discussing policies and issues.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:41 AM
Mar 2020

Trying to make people afraid and angry because supposedly someone's $2,800 donation automatically corrupts a politician.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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gulliver

(13,180 posts)
15. In general, no donation is superior to any other
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:52 AM
Mar 2020

If I give $20 to Trump, I'm not morally superior to some billionaire who gives $20M to a Democratic super PAC. The morality equation is about who you donate to and why.

If you donate to any Dem, to me, you are donating to the good side and are beyond reproach if there is no evidence of any chicanery. Assuming there is chicanery without evidence, in the case of Dem donors, is morally vastly inferior to donating to Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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