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highplainsdem

(48,958 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:27 AM Mar 2020

Sanders-supporting journalist warns the Democratic Party will be ripped apart "permanently"

if Sanders isn't given the nomination if he has a plurality but not a majority of delegates


Walker Bragman tweet:






Some really vicious replies there, too.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Sanders-supporting journalist warns the Democratic Party will be ripped apart "permanently" (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2020 OP
I'll take that gamble. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #1
+1000 OnDoutside Mar 2020 #31
Well, aren't they the bomb. More threats from Sanders people. LizBeth Mar 2020 #2
Fuck him NYMinute Mar 2020 #3
UNITY NOW! George II Mar 2020 #4
More on this guy. LisaM Mar 2020 #5
I am getting so sick of this shit. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #6
The Dems will play by the rules. We expect the same Cha Mar 2020 #26
where have some such threats been made before. must have been nt msongs Mar 2020 #7
it'll make real Democrats stronger in their party support nini Mar 2020 #8
I think it is just as likely that Biden has a plurality...and then what will Sanders folks say? Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #9
They will just harp on Joe being a weak candidate dansolo Mar 2020 #33
Tear the party apart equals Bernie or Bust nt sweetloukillbot Mar 2020 #10
This. Skidmore Mar 2020 #34
Let 'em go. So tired of the socialist divisiveness. brush Mar 2020 #11
Feel the same. Don't let the door hit ya on your way out. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #12
This, Yes!!!! blue-wave Mar 2020 #13
Democrats only, for sure! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2020 #14
I'm beginning to think destroying the Democratic Party... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #15
That's what the DSA wants. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #18
They have stated as much, by declaring what they consider establishment Democrats as the enemy still_one Mar 2020 #23
That seems to be the latest talking point. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #16
Threats don't amount to votes. C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #17
We've got to stop this now. This is Sanders' last rodeo but AOC or someone else... brush Mar 2020 #19
AOC has the label 'purity' RandiFan1290 Mar 2020 #35
It's obviously the opposite of that. She is the one repeatedl calling to purge/primary... brush Mar 2020 #42
That better not happen lees1975 Mar 2020 #20
It's actually probably true. budkin Mar 2020 #21
Threats don't work.. gladly Cha Mar 2020 #28
They don't want to abide by the rules all candidates agreed to, and then threaten that still_one Mar 2020 #22
Anybody got a map? I can't find the "corporate wing", the "establishment", nor the "elites". Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #24
Oh Bragman.. Threats Threats Threats.. what else ya Cha Mar 2020 #25
Walker "The Liberal Case for Donald Trump" Bragman? comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #27
That's right.. Bragman wrote that.. Jeezuz Cha Mar 2020 #29
Bragman is a total piece of shit. He's as deplorable as comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #30
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #32
PURGE!!!! RandiFan1290 Mar 2020 #36
Ironic. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #37
No, its not. RandiFan1290 Mar 2020 #38
Bwahahaha. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #41
Isn't it funny that that's the label they gave to Sanders and the progressive wing of the party. brutus smith Mar 2020 #39
That's a chance I'm willing to take. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #40
Woohoo! Now you're talking, NJ. This should be an OP. brush Mar 2020 #44
Thank you very much !! Baked Potato Mar 2020 #47
Dont worry about it. Its starting to look like Biden will have the plurality. honest.abe Mar 2020 #43
Same shit different day. grossproffit Mar 2020 #45
David Plouffe agrees. DanTex Mar 2020 #46
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
1. I'll take that gamble.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:29 AM
Mar 2020

It is interesting the fear though. Some of the smugness seems to have faded.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
2. Well, aren't they the bomb. More threats from Sanders people.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
3. Fuck him
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

That is the way the rules are and Sanders abided by those rules

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
6. I am getting so sick of this shit.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:33 AM
Mar 2020

The so-called "party elites" - that is, the superdelegates - consist of elected Democratic officials: Senators (including Bernie), representatives, governors, state elected representatives, Democratic constituents such as organized labor, and current and past Democratic presidents and vice presidents. AOC and the rest of the "squad" are superdelegates, as are many other Sanders supporters who currently hold state or federal office. And Bernie agreed to the rules about superdelegates' votes: If no candidate has a majority after the first ballot, the superdelegates vote. Don't like the rules? Don't play the game.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,047 posts)
26. The Dems will play by the rules. We expect the same
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:52 AM
Mar 2020

from Bragman etc..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,381 posts)
7. where have some such threats been made before. must have been nt
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:33 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nini

(16,672 posts)
8. it'll make real Democrats stronger in their party support
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:34 AM
Mar 2020

That is something the disruptor will have to deal with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
9. I think it is just as likely that Biden has a plurality...and then what will Sanders folks say?
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:36 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
33. They will just harp on Joe being a weak candidate
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:28 AM
Mar 2020

And instead of rallying behind him, they will continue to attack him. They will want to to lose, so they can crow about how right they are, and to hell with anyone who will suffer as a result. They will sleep well at night knowing that they didn't compromise their principles.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sweetloukillbot

(11,002 posts)
10. Tear the party apart equals Bernie or Bust nt
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:40 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
34. This.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:37 AM
Mar 2020

One of the reasons Sanders has not had my support is his hostility and divisiveness. His certitude that he has all the answers and only he can fix it is exclusionary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,759 posts)
11. Let 'em go. So tired of the socialist divisiveness.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:43 AM
Mar 2020

Democrats only from now on for Democratic races.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
12. Feel the same. Don't let the door hit ya on your way out.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:44 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blue-wave

(4,347 posts)
13. This, Yes!!!!
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:46 AM
Mar 2020

DNC are you listening?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,561 posts)
14. Democrats only, for sure!
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
15. I'm beginning to think destroying the Democratic Party...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020

... was the plan all along.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
18. That's what the DSA wants.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:49 AM
Mar 2020

I'm kind of surprised that their positions don't get more attention, with their links to Sanders (though, he's not a member) and AOC (who is).

I guess they only have about 50k members, so maybe it's not large enough to get mainstream attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,115 posts)
23. They have stated as much, by declaring what they consider establishment Democrats as the enemy
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:24 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
16. That seems to be the latest talking point.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

It's been making the rounds here. That's not a coincidence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
17. Threats don't amount to votes.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

The divide and conquer plan is falling apart... and clearly some can't handle it. Rip this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,759 posts)
19. We've got to stop this now. This is Sanders' last rodeo but AOC or someone else...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:57 AM
Mar 2020

will keep up the threats to take their ball and go home unless they get their way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
35. AOC has the label 'purity'
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:40 AM
Mar 2020

How will you purge her from the party?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brush

(53,759 posts)
42. It's obviously the opposite of that. She is the one repeatedl calling to purge/primary...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

incumbent Democrats. What I'm for is if they don't like they party, don't let the door hit them in the you know what.

It's the Democratic Party, not a democratic socialist one.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lees1975

(3,845 posts)
20. That better not happen
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:58 AM
Mar 2020

Sanders better get control of his supporters. Tell me how Sanders people splitting up the Democratic party and giving the orange headed buffoon a second term benefits Sanders or his supporters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

budkin

(6,699 posts)
21. It's actually probably true.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:02 AM
Mar 2020

Sadly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,047 posts)
28. Threats don't work.. gladly
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:54 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,115 posts)
22. They don't want to abide by the rules all candidates agreed to, and then threaten that
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:19 AM
Mar 2020

they will blow everything up for the Democrats like they did in the 2016 general election

Your threats won't work this time. You already played that game once before

If a candidate gets 1991 delegates on the first ballot they will be the nominee, if not then the rules will be followed


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
24. Anybody got a map? I can't find the "corporate wing", the "establishment", nor the "elites".
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:34 AM
Mar 2020

Gotta have a cartographer around just to figure this shit out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,047 posts)
25. Oh Bragman.. Threats Threats Threats.. what else ya
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:50 AM
Mar 2020

got, Bragman?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,139 posts)
27. Walker "The Liberal Case for Donald Trump" Bragman?
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:53 AM
Mar 2020

Is he even a Democrat?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,047 posts)
29. That's right.. Bragman wrote that.. Jeezuz
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:56 AM
Mar 2020

Thanks for the reminder, comradebillyboy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,139 posts)
30. Bragman is a total piece of shit. He's as deplorable as
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:59 AM
Mar 2020

HA Goodman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

 

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
36. PURGE!!!!
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:41 AM
Mar 2020

We must demand PURITY!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
37. Ironic.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:50 AM
Mar 2020

Isn’t that what the Justice Democrats are actually trying to achieve? Wasn’t AOC on their board? Didn’t they say they would primary anyone who didn’t agree wholly with their platform and the ngd?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
39. Isn't it funny that that's the label they gave to Sanders and the progressive wing of the party.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:51 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. That's a chance I'm willing to take.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:52 AM
Mar 2020

As a party, our odds of success and growth are better without him. He's a divisive individual who has nothing but the greatest contempt for our great party. I've had enough. Nobody should remain silent and politely allow anyone to smear and attack and denigrate the Democratic party with lie after lie.

It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is "intellectually bankrupt". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "feeble". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "corrupt". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is an "absolute failure". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is the "party of the elite". It's NOT TRUE that there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans." It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is "as bad as the GOP". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "do-nothings". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party "doesn't care about climate change." It's NOT TRUE that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity. It's also NOT TRUE that people who the refuse to vote for an African-American because of his skin color "aren't racists". It's also NOT TRUE that the Democrats who "are very big into diversity" aren't "particularly sympathetic" to the working class.

What good purpose does it serve for any high-profile politician to say things like that? It only creates division. Division weakens the party. It only creates suspicion and resentment and distrust. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

That's not what a leader does. Insulting loyal and stalwart Democrats is NOT how someone behaves if they're trying to convince me that they deserve to be this party's leader.

Honestly, we deserve better than that. For so many obvious reasons, we should stand firm against those types of threats.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,759 posts)
44. Woohoo! Now you're talking, NJ. This should be an OP.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:53 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,651 posts)
43. Dont worry about it. Its starting to look like Biden will have the plurality.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:44 AM
Mar 2020

Then what will Sanders and his gang say?? I suspect just the opposite of what they are saying now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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