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ancianita

(36,023 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 03:34 PM Mar 2020

Fuck ALL Democratic "establishment" talk.

Get the real difference between Democrats and the sunshine patriots who vote only the Democrat THEY want. "Establishment" is their label for Democrats they don't like. Okay for the primary. But that's where all bullshitting ends, and where the best interests of the country begin, not just Bernie supporters' best interests.

I'm sorry I forgot which DU'er said this, and I'll paraphrase them in the next two paragraphs.

Expecting the rest of Democratic candidates' supporters -- not "establishment" supporters -- to show up and vote for Sanders if he wins. We will do that. Because we know the cause of disunity. In UNITY, the whole party really should be able to guarantee Bernie the support of every Democrat and Independent who wants Trump gone, and that we will show up and vote. We will not pout and stay home in the General.

Likewise, we non-Bernie supporters are expecting Bernie supporters to show up and support whoever the nominee is, even if it isn't Bernie. THAT is how you get engaged in politics; that is how you win. You show up and you vote. You may not always get the person who gives you everything you want, but you never have to suffer a weak, corrupt government, either. If you're Democrats for Bernie, you won't stay home in the General.

Do not spite this country AGAIN. It does NOT benefit any of our fellow Americans if Trump wins AGAIN just because "non establishment" voters got mad that their guy or gal didn't get the nomination AGAIN.

This is not a nation of men. It’s a nation of laws.

Be Democrats. Keep it that way, or sunshine patriots will AGAIN help continue the lawless mafia governing that they've seen so far. They will help that darkness AGAIN make the country permanently dark.

Don't go dark in the General. BE Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
1. The other party doesn't have this problem
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

the GOP establishment were completely ineffective at stopping Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
2. Right. They have both their apocalyptic believer contingent, and simply low brain capacity voters
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

for whom obedience to leaders is one of their safe guess tools.

Our problems are adult problems, though we should have had them sorted out by now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
3. Senator Warren Should Fight Until The End If She Saw Fit
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:21 PM
Mar 2020

I follow Bernie on this and respect her too much to engage in an effort to tell her to suspend her campaign before/if she felt ready, if at all.

As for your larger point, I offer a point of clarity. The rift you address is real.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
4. Why not quote RS's sources, some data, some proof. Horse race punditry can be tempting, even for RS
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

so that's why I ask.

Only objective numbers can make this a thing, especially at this point at least three months away from the end of primaries.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287568259

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Efilroft Sul

(3,578 posts)
5. And be Americans.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:07 PM
Mar 2020

If Trump wins, Putin wins.

If Putin wins, America loses.

This November, stand up for America. Dump Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ancianita

(36,023 posts)
6. Absolutely well said. Any misuse of "establishment" opens up space for party and national division.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
8. So true
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:14 PM
Mar 2020

we got to unite as a party, we cannot self destruct on this election. We need to get tRump out and vote in vast numbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
9. Karine Jean-Pierre made the point that it was black voters in SC who saved Joe, not this
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

supposed "Establishment".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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