Anybody else see the differences between Bernie and Joe's speeches?

[bearsfootball516]

Bernie spent most of his time taking thinly-veiled shots at Biden.

Biden used his entire speech to talk about hope, and knocking Trump out of the White House.

I think that says everything.

[George II]

1. Excellent point. One sees the glass half-empty, the other sees the glass half full.

[smb]

79. One Sees The Glass Half-Full...

...the other doesn't see anything at all because his eyes are squinched shut in reflexive response to severe butt-hurt.

[mcar]

2. Oh yeah. Big difference.

But Bernie's shots were not thinly veiled. And, his crowd constantly booed Biden and "the establishment." It was mean-spirited and not at all statesmanlike.

Joe shared his vision for all of us. And slammed IMPOTUS.

It does say everything.

[Cha]

58. Excellent summary, mcar.. TY!

[Butterflylady]

76. Yes indeed, Biden is a man of the people.

[Rebl2]

88. Sometimes

I feel like Bernie comes across more like Trump. Yelling and being as you say mean spirited.

[Mz Pip]

3. Bernie gave his standard stump speech.

That just isn’t enough an.

[littlemissmartypants]

18. It's all sloganeering. I could probably spit it out myself.

It's a turn off. Like... I got it the first time. After the three thousandth time it's insulting to my intelligence.

[madaboutharry]

4. I hope people see the difference.

I am tired of anger and bitterness. I want a president who shines a light and creates optimism.

[LiberalBrooke]

59. Yes, I do too.

[PatSeg]

62. That's what Obama did

and so did FDR - hope and optimism. People can only take so much anger and outrage. Its not what people want in a president.

[SkyDaddy7]

67. +1000

YES!!!!

...I’m so tired of Bernie’s bitter mad attitude ALL THE TIME!!!

...Plus, Bernie is selling counterfeit tickets to Disney World for votes & when everyone shows up at the park & can’t get in it will set back Progressive causes decades!!
...WHY his adherents can’t see that is baffling to me!?!?!?!

[msongs]

5. one was bad mouthing democrats and one was congratulating democrats nt

[lapfog_1]

6. this time it is hope FOR change.

We must change out the orange idiot asshole wannabe dictator currently crapping in the White House.

Nothing else matters until that is done.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

7. Joe makes his run about US. WE MATTER.

I had to put Bernie on MUTE because he was yelling, not speaking from the heart.

[nolabear]

8. Joe says "we" and talks about others all the time.

I’m not sure Bernie knows others as real people and not just a concept. If he does he certainly doesn’t show it in his speeches.

[dhill926]

9. yes...

[dware]

17. I just watched both speeches and.....

I find YOUR comment to be complete BS.

[scrabblequeen40]

25. "fuckers on DU?"

Maybe Bernie's not the one who is angry?

[jcgoldie]

28. yes i am angry

Because I love this place and I want it to be the place that recognizes ideology and not always just politics.

[Cha]

61. I'm recognizing reality.. and that's the best thing.

[Demsrule86]

74. We are in the fight of our lives for our very Republic...winning is everything...don't give two

damns about ideology now...politics always trumps ideology if you want to win.

[TheCynic56]

36. I'm sayin'

[bearsfootball516]

26. "Fuckers on DU"?

[chillfactor]

30. great comeback!

Thank you for your post!

[dware]

31. My pleasure.

[TomSlick]

37. Guys, as my granny used to say, "Y'all be sweet."

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[TomSlick]

35. Guys, as my granny used to say, "Y'all be sweet."

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[TimeToGo]

93. I hope she said

Y’all be sweet. 😎

[TomSlick]

94. She did. Granny couldn't type either.

[TimeToGo]

95. 🤠

[Just_Vote_Dem]

11. One was positive and hopeful, the other one wasn't n/t

[Under The Radar]

12. I don't understand how Bernie can announce "me against the world"

But yet every single program that he promotes needs the vote of all he is alienating.

[BeyondGeography]

54. Selling empathy while visibly lacking it

is a problem.

[customerserviceguy]

13. Joe's speech

was inspiring. Clearly, he's back!

[grantcart]

14. Sanders leading his crowd in booing Biden

He is going to try and gin up anti Democratic emotion to enhance his negotiating power.

He knows he has lost but now is spreading kerosene and taking out a match.

Give me what I want or I burn everything to the ground.

[TheCynic56]

42. No leading by Bernie! Shame on you!

Bernie did NOT lead the crowd in booing Joe.

Good Lord, what is wrong with you!?

[NoMoreRepugs]

60. When u keep throwing red meat to the crowd after

the first BOO you are leading the crowd.

[grantcart]

65. Your antagonistic "what is wrong with you" is just another manifestation of the Sander "boo"

Any difference is because you are an "enemy" of the people because only Sanders can carry the mantle of the working man.

Congressman Clyburn? Must be a corporate stooge, what is wrong with him?


For about 10 minutes tonight Bernie egged his crowd on by saying things like

"we need a candidate who protects consumers not someone who voted with credit card companies for high interest rates"


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



over and over and over again. were you not aware that he was referring to Biden?


On Saturday when Sanders "congratulated" Biden's landslide victory he mentioned Biden's name twice and there were loud boos both times. Sanders did not chide the crowd.


I don't know what is more pathetic, that Sanders is intending to demonize political leaders in the party he visits and exploits for his personal interests or whether his supporters will excuse any of his bad acts regardless how it damages party unity. Senator Sanders (I) Vermont has always had a disparaging opinion of the Democratic Party and his devotees will accept his acrimonious, angry and bitter diatribes as acceptable fratricide. Sanders doesn't know the meaning of comity.

Biden just took the lead in Texas.

Is Cherry your preferred flavor?

[Mars and Minerva]

72. I guarantee that the Bros will be out in force tomorrow.

Whenever Bernie is losing, his campaign gets nasty.

[TheCynic56]

80. Did I push a button? LOL

[TheCynic56]

85. Thank you for your humble opinion.

What’s with the “Is Cherry your preferred flavor”? Why make a personal attack? Seems to me your comments like this put you at a low, which is no better that Bernie supporters.

Are you instigating an argument? This is how it feels to me and I’m not interested.

Peace ✌🏼

[LanternWaste]

82. Bernie has a "lot to offer, but he's far from perfect..."

(just thought I'd throw that petulant irrelevancy out there... seems kinda trendy among the neo-hipster crowd these days and I wanted to try it on to see how it fits)

[TheCynic56]

84. Trendy?

You’re right, he has a lot to offer too.

In my sixties so obviously I’m not in the “neo-hipster crowd” if that’s what you were implying, I couldn’t tell.

Oh, one more thing, I don’t follow any crowd, neo or otherwise.

Peace✌🏼

[frazzled]

15. Biden had a line that really struck me

Maybe he’s said it before, but I hadn’t heard it.

He loosely quoted the Declaration of Independence: All men and women are created equal and are endowed by their creator with inalienable rights. We haven’t fully lived up to that promise yet, but this is the first time, with this president, that we have walked away from it.

[DarthDem]

51. I liked that line too

Good call!

[stillcool]

16. it's like it would kill him

to be anything but angry. He has got to get a grip, but he doesn't care. He can't stand up without tearing everything down.

[robbedvoter]

20. It's what animates them. Burnie hates Democrats. Comes out every time

I have no proof he/his supporters care about 🍊 one way or another. An important reaon that informs my voting.

[BlueIdaho]

21. When you see yourself as a revolutionary leader

It’s always about you.

[wnylib]

63. Not quite always. Depends on the

nature of the revolution. Our founders thought of "we tge people."

[Dr Vegas]

22. I wish I could post this image

Season 4 of Curb Your Enthusiasm had an Ad of Larry David pondering a Glass of water, Is it half full or half empty?

[videohead5]

24. Bernie

Is not like-able. He comes across as a angry old man.

[Frances]

32. I don't like Bernie either

I wish someone would tell him to stop bad mouthing those who don’t support him in the primary because we will vote for him in the general

[calimary]

41. And even though he puts us down as the "establishment."

I will vote for Bernie if I have to.

Hope I don’t have to. But if it comes to that, I will.

[calimary]

39. There is that.

[smirkymonkey]

44. +1000

Absolutely. He just strikes me as bitter and miserable. There is nothing inspiring about him. I can't stand him.

[FloridaBlues]

27. Bernie's speech pattern is in sound bites only than applause

His entire unforgettable speech.

[Maru Kitteh]

29. Bernie was a screaming, scornful mass of bitterness and rage.

It was extremely off-putting, to say the least.

[Joinfortmill]

34. Love Joe

[emmaverybo]

38. I prefer hope and hugging to haranguing.

[R B Garr]

40. It does say everything.

So sick of it.

[bamagal62]

43. I actually can't stand to listen

To Bernie’s screaming and anger. It drives me crazy. But, on the flip side I cringe when Biden is speaking, waiting for a gaffe. But, I’m always pulling for Biden to make it through, so there’s that. Go Joe!

[SharonClark]

69. I sort of agree

I can’t stand Sanders scowling anger.

I can’t handle Biden’s yelling into the mic and muffles his own lines. He’s much better when he slows down and speaks calmly.

[Mars and Minerva]

73. Me too...exactly. nt

[Kablooie]

45. Yep. Sanders ran against the Dem party. All others ran against Trump.

Sanders is more concerned with taking out the Democratic party than he is taking out Trump.

[relayerbob]

46. Yes, over the top difference

Hope vs anger
Success vs frustration

Body language said much more than words

[Mr.Bill]

47. What changed tonight is

Biden is now definitely running against Trump.

Sanders is still running against Biden and the Democratic Party.

[BootinUp]

48. A revelation instead of revolution. Nt

[3catwoman3]

55. That is a very good line.

Might make a good campaign T-shirt with a picture of Joe on it.

[PBass]

49. Biden's speech was heavy on how Democrats and Republicans can work together.

That is a complete fantasy. If President Obama - a far superior politician to Joe Biden - was unable to bridge the gap with today's Republicans, it's a complete fantasy to imagine that President Biden can do it.

So while the speeches were different, Biden's message was largely delusional. No Democratic president is going to sway Trump's base (the Tea Party basically) to adopt the Democratic point of view, no matter how centrist they are.

[redstateblues]

57. So what is Bernie's plan to get things done?

He has never had one. His pie in the sky ideas will never get enough support from Congress to pass. His supporters gloss over that. Our system of government is based on compromise.

[Greywing]

66. I disagree ... his speech was heavy on healing the nation and

and uniting ALL Americans for the greater good.

[showblue22]

90. People are obviously responding to that message.

Maybe, just maybe, it's what voters want to hear.

[quakerboy]

50. I disagree

Couldnt say about bernies speach. Wasnt listening.

I caught Bidens. It was pretty well crafted, and when combined with the exuberant media narrative of the night praising his "unexpected victories" and ignoring Texas and California and the year or so that he spent polling as top candidate, It felt like the beginning of the end for the Sanders campaign.

But he made a point to throw his little digs at Bernies campaign. So if I accept your version of Bernies speach, then i have to say there is no difference.

[FailureToCommunicate]

52. Pretty distressing to see Joe Biden (and Jill Biden!) have to fend off protestors that got

up to the stage!!

Biden's sister was visibly shaken, and kept her arms firmly crossed in from of her for awhile.

Yikes.

Maybe Biden should get his Secret Service detail back.

[DarthDem]

53. Yes it does

There were subtle hints in Sen. Sanders' speech that he knows the tide is turning, or has turned. If Bloomberg drops out tomorrow or soon thereafter as I expect, that's going to be another big blow.

[blm]

56. Big time.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

64. Go Joe.

[iluvtennis]

68. Exactly...I noticed that as well. nt

[W T F]

70. I Voted for Biden, but these kind of divisive attacks on Bernie are counter productive.

Stop attacking other democrats. That’s exactly what Trump and Putin want to do, sow division between us. Please stop playing into their hands.

[Luciferous]

77. Agreed. It isn't helpful.

[jalan48]

71. Meh. You won't need those angry Bernie voters anyway.

It will be total lovey dovey.

[we can do it]

75. BS spews the same thing no matter what the occasion.

[mopinko]

78. bernie only has one speech. no matter the circumstances. always exactly the same.

this is the single most disqualifying thing about him, imho.
it shows how his brain works, and that is not well.

[berksdem]

81. +1

I really do not see why other folks can't see this. He is a one-trick pony IMO. Every speech is basically the same thing and the same rallying points against the Dem establishment.

We need unity... not a grumpy ol' man that seemingly bashes the dem establishment at every turn.

[mopinko]

83. zero intersectionality, like the younguns say. why THEY dont see it either

will be debated for a decade.

[Liberty Belle]

86. Is there a link to Biden's speech please?

[olegramps]

87. I hope that people wake up to the fact that Sanders is cheap shot opportunist.

He is as shallow as the dry hole in Death Valley. He cost Clinton the election spewing exactly the same propaganda as Trump. Big promises of jobs returning with the voiding trade agreements, free health care and tariffs. He is more of a Marxist than Putin.

[Farmer-Rick]

89. Ok, but what was that about him not recognizing

His wife or sister? NPR had it along with all the Bernie bashing but only heard the tail end of it.

So according to NPR we Democratic voters have a choice between a socialist who wants to give out "free stuff"or a guy who is losing his mental acuity. I think they are in the bag for Trump.

[BlueJac]

91. K&R

[ehrnst]

92. Bernie is seldom buoyant and uplifting... FDR was positive - you could hear the smile

in his voice.

Comparisons of the two nearly always leave that out.

[CaptainTruth]

96. It seems like Bernie is running against the Democratic "establishment"...

...while everyone else has been running against Trump.