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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Johnny2X2X

(18,970 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:58 AM Mar 2020

Democrats love Bernie too

I know last night was rough for Bernie voters and supporters. I love Bernie. Elizabeth Warren is my first choice.

But now I am Riden with Biden. He's a great chance to not only beat Trump but push the policies of our government back to the left. Joe has high character and wants many of the same things that Bernie wants, his view on how to get them is more incremental though.

Bernie is still not out of it although it looks like the states remaining don't give him a path. But as a liberal I cannot thank Bernie or his supporters enough, he's truly shifted the discussion on a multitude of issues. Without Bernie we probably wouldn't even be discussing MFA or a $15 minimum wage.

Bernie might now win, but he's helped make the party stronger. And if/when he drops out he's going to endorse and campaign for Biden, I hope all of his supporters follow suit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Democrats love Bernie too (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 OP
I hope the progressive agenda cilla4progress Mar 2020 #1
I hope he picks Warren as a running mate Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 #2
Me too democrattotheend Mar 2020 #6
I always thought she should have picked cilla4progress Mar 2020 #14
+1000 ancianita Mar 2020 #3
If people show up and get him a Congress that can pass legislation... TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13
I admire and respect Bernie but the divisive talk against the "establishment" must end Under The Radar Mar 2020 #4
you stole the words right out of my mouth.... berksdem Mar 2020 #5
He is unwielding, I respect that Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 #10
I agree democrattotheend Mar 2020 #11
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #18
This Democrat (once a supporter) LakeArenal Mar 2020 #7
"Win with humiliaty; lose with class". An excellent example. Thank you. pampango Mar 2020 #8
I like Bernie, voted for him in 2016 BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #9
Same here democrattotheend Mar 2020 #12
I actually used to like him a bit. llmart Mar 2020 #15
Don't confuse Bernie with some of his supporters and even some of his staff Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 #16
I'm referring to what I heard come out of his own mouth. llmart Mar 2020 #22
unfortunately the love is not reciprecated nt msongs Mar 2020 #17
I don't love him FamousMortimer Mar 2020 #19
I love Bernie NCProgressive Mar 2020 #20
I despise him.. I despise him hijacking our primaries and caucuses question everything Mar 2020 #21
Not this one. I did, for many years, but he changed my mind LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #23
 

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
1. I hope the progressive agenda
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:01 PM
Mar 2020

Of Bernie and Warren is front and center in a Biden administration.

And I'll be damned disappointed if not. We represent a lot of the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Johnny2X2X

(18,970 posts)
2. I hope he picks Warren as a running mate
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020

Warren is absolutely brilliant and has a plan for everything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. Me too
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020

I changed my avatar to support her this morning. It's largely symbolic, because she probably won't be in the race much longer, but I've always thought she would be the best president out of any of them. I'd love to see her be Biden's VP, especially if he is only going to serve one term. And I think picking her would send a message to progressives that he understands that we're a large chunk of the party who deserve to be heard. If Hillary had picked Bernie or Warren or someone equally progressive in 2016 she probably would have gotten more of the Bernie voters on board.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
14. I always thought she should have picked
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

Julian Castro.

Kaine's a great guy, but non‐diverse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
13. If people show up and get him a Congress that can pass legislation...
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:12 PM
Mar 2020

progressive issues will get plenty of attention.

Many tend to forget that the first step in getting progressive issues addressed is passing legislation, which clearly requires Congress. Give any of our candidates an amenable Congress and we'll see progressive issues addressed.

Further thoughts from a post I wrote yesterday:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287618857



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
4. I admire and respect Bernie but the divisive talk against the "establishment" must end
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:11 PM
Mar 2020

if he wants a seat at the head of this party he should be willing to join the party, not throw rocks at it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

berksdem

(595 posts)
5. you stole the words right out of my mouth....
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020

well said Under the Radar

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Johnny2X2X

(18,970 posts)
10. He is unwielding, I respect that
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

He ran a tough campaign and he was trying to win.

Despite what some people think, he did campaign for Hillary last time, but I think he can do a better job this time of taking his endorsement of Joe right to his supporters. Engage them more directly to let them know the importance of stopping Trump and how Joe can help achieve results that will help them and will help Bernie's goals for the country.

There's also less of an effort from anti Hillary people to paint the DNC as corrupt this time around. This won't be a Super Delegate thing, the voters will pick Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
11. I agree
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Mar 2020

That's a big part of why I didn't support him this time (I did in 2016).

I'm proud of what his campaign in 2016 accomplished, and I think he changed the party for the better. But like you said, he has been too divisive, in 2016 and now. I wish he had either run a less divisive campaign this time or stepped aside and let Warren carry the torch (which is what he wanted in 2016 to begin with).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
7. This Democrat (once a supporter)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 PM
Mar 2020

Does not like Bernie, let alone love him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pampango

(24,692 posts)
8. "Win with humiliaty; lose with class". An excellent example. Thank you.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
9. I like Bernie, voted for him in 2016
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020

and my son voted for him yesterday. I don't like seeing people attack him, even though he wasn't my candidate this time around.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
12. Same here
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:25 PM
Mar 2020

I still defend him when people attack him. And while I wasn't planning to vote for him this year, if Warren drops out I just might, mostly to send a message. I didn't want him to get the nomination because I don't think he can win, but I do want him to do well enough to show that a lot of people agree with him on the issues and keep Biden from going too far to the center during the general or once in office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

llmart

(15,532 posts)
15. I actually used to like him a bit.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:38 PM
Mar 2020

But after these primaries I've seen a side of him I'm not liking. We don't need more divisiveness in our country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Johnny2X2X

(18,970 posts)
16. Don't confuse Bernie with some of his supporters and even some of his staff
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:54 PM
Mar 2020

I don't believe the directives to attack Warren came from Bernie. I also think the hostile rhetoric is not from Bernie, but from some of his most rabid supporters. He was running as an outsider and against the establishment. That was what he saw was his path to victory.

Bernie has a chance to help unite the party going forward, I'm interested to see what he does with that chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

llmart

(15,532 posts)
22. I'm referring to what I heard come out of his own mouth.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020

He's responsible for that. No one else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,361 posts)
17. unfortunately the love is not reciprecated nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FamousMortimer

(40 posts)
19. I don't love him
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:10 PM
Mar 2020

He is tearing down the party in my opinion and he is still not a member.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
20. I love Bernie
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:11 PM
Mar 2020

When his job is senator from Vermont that is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,434 posts)
21. I despise him.. I despise him hijacking our primaries and caucuses
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:22 PM
Mar 2020

while still running as an Independent.

I despise his angry, attacking campaign. As I posted here, two days ago he came to MN, to humiliate Klobuchar, angry, waving his arms, attacking everyone while, at the same time, Klobuchar was in Dallas, talking about uniting and hope.

We hate and despise Trump for. at least in 2016, could not find a single positive thing about our country. Sanders was like that in 2016 and is continuing this time. Like Trump he is an outsider expecting to take over.

Like Trump he visited states (MA. MN, NC) right before the elections to disrupt.

After four years of fighting and offensive behavior we deserve a campaign about "the shining city on the hill." To combat the fighting words on "Social Media."

As stated by Biden at the end of a recent debate: "This is the United States of America. There’s not a single thing beyond our capacity to do if we do it together, let’s go do it."





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
23. Not this one. I did, for many years, but he changed my mind
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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