Has Biden's VP calculus changed?

[LaurenOlimina]

I thought Stacy Abrams would be a good choice, but Biden's strength in the South has me thinking he might do better with someone from the midwest or northeast.

[beachbumbob]

1. still thinking Kamala harris

[LaurenOlimina]

21. She makes more sense, but he HAS California in a general...

[HarlanPepper]

34. It's not always about geography

You can go back to Palin, as a recent example. Also actually, Joe Biden, who was not picked to be Obama’s VP because of Delaware. Al Gore didn’t pick Lieberman for geographical reasons either. W didn’t pick Cheney because of Wyoming. I won’t go on. I think I’ve made my point.

[Dem4Life1102]

43. Actually Gore thought Lieberman would help in Florida

Palin was more of an ideological pick to please the GOP base. Biden was picked for his experience. Cheney too.

[Dem4Life1102]

42. How does she make more sense.

California is a solid blue state. Plus, Harris has a lot of baggage with progressives due to her record as a prosecutor. And after her attacks on Biden in the debates (as well as her failure to endorse him before the California primary) some will call her a hypocritical opportunist.

[onetexan]

37. where the heck has Kamala been? She was a no-show at Joe's ST California gathering.

What's taking her so long?

[DownriverDem]

2. As long as

the VP nominee is a strong progressive Dem woman folks should be happy.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. If not Warren, then Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin nt

[Demsrule86]

6. I love Tammy Baldwin and think she would be the best choice.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Baldwin is best strategically for November

Warren is best for a VP ready to be president if duty calls.

[getagrip_already]

16. what would happen to her seat?

It can't go to a republican. I know wisconsin has a dem governor, but sometimes the seat goes to a special election, and wisconsin is controlled by the gop.

[LaurenOlimina]

22. I like Baldwin

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

4. More likely mayor Pete or Bloomberg

If i had to bet.

[LaurenOlimina]

27. Bloomberg would be bad.

Pete would be better. It needs to be someone young and Bloomberg is loathed.

[still_one]

5. If Joe is the nominee I really want him to choose a woman VP, and I think he will

[shotten99]

7. Hopefully someone younger that could pick up the torch and run

in his place in 4 years or after 8 (hopefully.)

[PunkinPi]

8. Harris. nt

[Jersey Devil]

9. All in for Amy

She has a lot more experience than most others mentioned, from the midwest and is young enough to balance Biden's age.

[nbsmom]

11. Appropriate, too

Obama took a Team of Rivals approach. After all, it’s how he ended up as VP in the first place.

[getagrip_already]

12. trump is expected to drop pence for hailey......

So I think it will be important for biden to choose a woman of color. Geo doesn't matter much anymore. Sure, a strong vp choice from a swing state can help in that state, but it isn't critical.

VP's aren't that important to a campaign unless you choose poorly. In this case at least, you have to factor that the next vp will very much be a candidate in either 4 or 8 years. So you want someone strong.

[griffi94]

13. I'm considering who I want as the 2024 standard bearer.

I hope he picks Harris or Klobuchar.

[spicysista]

14. It's most likely going to be a woman....

Strategically, it's hard to be seen as anti-women if you've chosen a woman as a running mate. It would make a strong contrast with dolt45 and mother's husband, too.

[AGeddy]

15. His VP nominee will be a black woman

99% chance.

[jimfields33]

17. Biden's weak big time with Hispanics

He needs to get them on board. They are all with sanders!!!! I’m thrilled but just helping out.

[LanternWaste]

35. What is the measure for calling his numbers 'weak?'

Certainly other candidates are currently outperforming him in particular states, but to call his performance weak in regards to an entire demographics requires both a standard and a measure-- both objective.

What is the standard and the measure you use to support your allegation?

Or (and I find this a wee bit more likely), there's no standard, no measure, and no data you're aware of... just another allegation lacking any real evidence to support it, yes?

Big time! indeed.

[exboyfil]

18. Klobuchar?

Stacy Abrams was born in Madison so I wonder how far that would get us. I like her. We both lived in Gulfport, MS at the same time (I didn't know her she is younger than me).

I would go with Abrams over Harris. If Harris wants to be in the cabinet, the AG is the logical job for her (and it will be a job cleaning out that Augean Stable.

I think Biden/Abrams have the chance to run a folksy charm campaign that takes away the God awful fake "populism" of Trump.

[dajoki]

19. I hope it's Harris n/t

[Sunsky]

20. I'm AA but

I think he should choose a Latina VP like Escobar from Texas.

[LaurenOlimina]

23. Could she put Texas in play?

[Sunsky]

36. I don't have data

But my gut feeling tells me that we would win Texas, Arizona and Florida with her on the ticket.

[Blaukraut]

24. He almost has to go with a true progressive, doesn't he?

I'm not advocating for Liz, although she'd be a great choice. But Bernie supporters will want to have a reason other than Not Trump to be mollified. It also needs to be someone young-ish and dynamic, ready to step into the role as president immediately in case s/he has to. And finally, someone who will be a clear frontrunner for president after Joe's (hopefully) second term.

It's a big decision for Biden. I hope he nails it.

[LaurenOlimina]

25. Young for sure.

I'm not sure they will feel a need for a progressive. They assume they'll get those votes.

[cilla4progress]

39. I agree.

I love Kamala, but I don't believe she bears the progressive identity?

[OnDoutside]

26. No.

Has to be a younger person
Has to be a woman
Has to be a POC

Abrams (my favourite) or Harris (not impressed by her own failed run)

[LaurenOlimina]

29. I'm not sure about these two:

Has to be a woman
Has to be a POC

That's what I want, but I'm not sure they will be that exact. They may think electorally, not demographically.

[OnDoutside]

40. I think it will definitely be the first two, with potentially him picking Klobuchar, to hook into

the Mid West. That said, I think Stacy would be electric.

[Happy Hoosier]

28. TBH, I think where the candidate is from matters less these days.

I mean, Liz came in third in her HOME STATE.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. I hope he takes a good look at her

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Cortez_Masto

[mitch96]

31. Who ever would help in the general election to defeat tRump........

And young enough/tough enough that if Joe were to bail out after 2 years or so could be elected on their own. This would secure at least 6 years of a Democratic prez. I think we would need 6 years to un fuck our country from the traitor in chief... YMMV.
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[defacto7]

32. There's too much animosity between Harris and Biden.

I'm not sure that is easily healed.

[Squinch]

33. It must be a relatively young woman of color.

[LonePirate]

38. Abrams remains the top choice no matter what. She will drive up turnout everywhere.

Milwaukee. Ann Arbor. Atlanta. Miami. Charlotte. Tempe. Dallas. Philadelphia. You name the place and she will boost turnout in all of those areas where we need increased turn out

[OnDoutside]

41. I agree.

[Dem4Life1102]

44. She has the potential to excite many in the base

Women, African-Americans and progressives. She also may make some Southern states more competitive. That may not flip them but would force the GOP to spend more in them to shore them up. As well as helping in the more purple districts in those states.