Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)All expenses paid, flight, hotel, etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,092 posts)unless he can get a spectacle out of it without having to actually debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sandensea
(21,624 posts)Here, or in any working democracy, bailing on a debate is a deal-breaker to many voters.
You may recall that Jimmy Carter, God bless him, made that crucial mistake in 1980 - which allowed Reagan to debate Anderson, and both to pile on him.
Let's say Biden our nominee. A Biden-Weld debate? Poifect!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)He will make some BS excuse, like all the debates have to be on FOX since 'people are saying' that the other networks are enemies of the people, and then blame the Dems for refusing to participate in debates.
He has nothing to gain from debates and can't stand the constant attacks on his documented lies and changes of position (remember, his tremendous healthcare plan was going to be ready to announce the afternoon of his inauguration).
Nixon refused to debate in 1972 (they called it the Rose Garden strategy since that was the only place he would speak to the press) because he was spending every moment working on winning the Vietnam War. It might have cost him Massachusetts, since his carried the other 49 states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)And a big THANK YOU to man pictured, and an apology that we seemingly can't do a thing about this in our so called Democracy.
Land of the free and home of the brave lip service BS my ass
Corrupt purging of voters lists, moving voting locations all over the place and far from peoples homes, drastically controlling how few voting machines are in especially middle and lower class Dem districts, electronic voting machines that have been proven for over twenty years and numerous occasions to be able to be hacked and votes changed, need we go on?
Even the "paper ballots" that are put thru an electronic machine can be corrupted.............
This is a disgrace, and making me ashamed to say I am an American...........
"Right to vote", and "one person, one vote" is total and complete BS...........
Who was the Frenchman in the 1700's that stated: Democracy will work until people figure out that they can vote themselves money?
WASF
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Get it together TEXAS, thats enough of this INSANITY-VERGING-ON-CRUELTY
ENOUGH
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)It's in many many states...........
the Republican Mantra.........The means justifies the end, (as long as it is THEIR end)
Our Democracy/Voting has become so corrupted and the Republicans are gloating over Their job of creating it for decades......
The most descriptive word for Republicans? HYPOCRITES
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)The twisted thinking is viscerally upsetting to me.
I dont understand the mental isolation that could lead someone to hate someone as genuinely Good as, for example, Barack Obama, and yet genuflect to the documented career criminal... I just dont get it. What is wrong in the brain that thinks that way??
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)psychiatrists that I have talked to, ever since W got elected say they have no clue. They can't even imagine what malfunction of Republican brains is taking place. Now, for the last three years, they are really really confused.....
I have given up on any communication with several life time Republican friends, and countless acquaintances over the past twenty years......I just have no use for them. They all are irrational and totally unreasonable in their thoughts and actions......
They have no clue that the Republicans are destroying their lives too.......
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)being different from the liberal brain, on a physiological level. They tend to have lowered empathy responses, for example, among other symptoms.
So I guess one could say theyre born that way. But that sure doesnt help me understand! Luckily there havent been many of them around me, but my own visceral reaction after finding out a work friend is in the cult really makes me ponder.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)psychopaths also have no empathy. They make great sadists, corporate executives, and politicians.........
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
leftieNanner
(15,082 posts)That's a feature, not a big.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rurallib
(62,406 posts)But if he must, I hope he is up for it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)There are a lot of bad things you can say about Texas (I know, I've said most of them) but lack of early voting is not one of them. We had nearly two weeks to early vote, including a whole weekend.
Texas Southern University is in Houston, a big city. It's not in some rural nowheresville where there may only be one or two polling places on the other side of the county. I'm glad this gentleman stuck it out, but seriously: if voting is important to you, do it early.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polybius
(15,385 posts)To be honest, Texas had early voting, Sanders might have won. He was up big until Saturday. And I'm saying this as a Sanders supporter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)If we can get high turnout in November with his kind of tenacity, then I have a renewed hope this morning.
Link to tweet
DO YOUR THANG, TWITTER!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)decides where the voting precincts are located. They also decide the equipment used; a wide variety of machines are used across the state.
The county elections office determines the precincts and also the number of voting locations. THe number of machines here is based on prior voting history by each party since on primary day we share the same room. I worked yesterday in a very red precinct. We had 3 voting machines and the Rs had 6.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,092 posts)voting machines being broken or there being fewer polling places?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)And also, Texas closed many polling places.
God damn them to hell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,092 posts)and no way to fix it before November, because Texas.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)IF there's the political will, that is.
We must get more Democrats into the Texan legislature to really fix problems like these.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)I live in a neighboring county but I know the current Harris County clerk and I am active in the Harris County Democratic Lawyers Association. Please understand that from 2010 to 2018, a tea party asshole named Stan Stannart was in charge of elections in Harris county. Stan was a teabagger and a major asshole who closed a number of voting locations in minority locations.
Link to tweet
We voted Stan out in 2018 but he left the county in a mess with fewer voting locations and not sufficient machines. Stan was pushing a voting system that he designed that had to be scrapped. Harris County adopted County wide voting on election day to try to help with the mess that Stan created (I actually testified before the Commissioners Court on this proposal).
The other problem is that Texas law allows the parties to force separate primaries. The Texas GOP has an asshole as its chair who forced separate primaries which means that the county did not have enough machines.
Link to tweet
In a tweet, Trautman wrote that her office proposed a joint primary election, which would have allowed voters to vote on any available machines. This was rejected by the parties, which means both parties have an equal allocation of machines for each polling location."
In a follow-up tweet, Trauman linked to a press release from the Harris County Republican Party and wrote, Correction - there wasnt an agreement between parties. One party agreed while the other did not.
Link to tweet
Fort Bend County had a joint primary in part because the election administrator told the parties that there were not sufficient machines to do separate primaries.
Harris County had a meltdown but the issue goes back to the prior GOP/tea party election administrator (stan Stannart) and the GOP county party
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)If a precinct historically has 50% more Republicans turn up to vote than Democrats, it wouldn't be reasonable to overstock the Democratic side on the outside chance a lot of Democrats would vote there even though they could now that we have voting centers
My very red voting center was lagging behind the R side until 4 pm and then we had a large surge. I think half of our turnout was after 4. Part of that was the time of day - folks voting after work or picking up the kids after school. We had a hard time with it because the access codes to our system expire so we had to reissue a bunch of them and stop issuing them to newly arrived voters for a while until we felt like they would not expire. We did finish at 7:05 though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)This shit should be illegal. They know exactly what they're doing when they close down polling sites.
Here in WA, we vote by mail. I wish all states would go to mail-in voting. No one should have to stand for hours on end to vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)lower turnout precincts here and there which have been combined for years at one location. I have worked several elections where we had two or three sets of ballots, and voted in one before I began working as an election judge. These are always precincts which border one another.
I also really think the Elections folks over estimated how much the ability to vote anywhere on election day would move voters around. Most folks stuck to their regular voting locations as far as I can tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,553 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)This is shameful
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Reader Rabbit
(2,624 posts)You know the Republicans will make sure that the difficulty level for voting will be amped up for the general!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)We need that kind of persistence from our voters. So while my persistent candidate didnt break through, at least we have that persistence in our democratic voters. And that is most important.
This man, and the thousands of others who had to fight suppressive tactics to cast their vote deserve the undying support and determination to do whatever it takes to eradicate this travesty everywhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,470 posts)A real primary, that is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)There needs to be such massive voter turnout for Democrats that there are long lines and BIG CHANGES!
(That said, voter suppression is evil.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,646 posts)How many people can take 7 hours out of their lives to wait like that? Could you?
This voter suppression costs us incalculably and has to stop!
How?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,220 posts)The news also carried on about the long lines in California too. Two hours, three hours, and more. People bringing their laptops, their homework, their Hangman games and more, to pass the time while they waited to vote.
I think were seeing Determination to Dump trump. Alive and kicking and in the flesh!
I dont remember lines THAT long or people standing and waiting THAT long - to vote. And theyre not out there waiting for something new from Apple to go on sale at midnight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(31,984 posts)Republicans not in charge there
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)This is from El Jeffe (a Biden supporter who I met at a Biden fundraiser) https://juanitajean.com/had-to-wait-in-a-long-line-to-vote-thank-a-republican/
Since the 2013 Supreme Court decision that gutted the Voting Rights Act Texas has closed 542 polling places, most in historically black and Latino areas. If you include 2012 closings, that number rises to 750.
In Harris County at least, the Republican party refused to allow a joint primary with Dems. What that meant was that the voting machines were divided in 2, half for Repubs, half for Dems. Since Trump essentially had no opponent, turnout in the GOP primary was very low so HALF of voting machines remained essentially unused.
Both of these moves by Republicans made it harder for Texans to vote, which has been their goal for over 20 years as demographics started moving against them. I got to experience their strategy yesterday since my polling place was one of those closed. It took me three attempts at two different polling places to finally cast my vote, and I had to drive 15 minutes from one polling place to another to accomplish that. After discovering my polling place was closed, I drove to my old polling place only to find the line out the door and down the block. I went to have some lunch and returned about an hour later to find the line almost as long. A nice young poll worker for Ben Rose had information on other polling places, so I drove all the way out to Buffalo Speedway to vote at a church there. The line there was about half an hour (and it was air-conditioned) so I waited it out. When I got into the polling place, HALF of the voting machines were being unused while Republican poll workers twiddled their thumbs. On the other side, Dems were forced to wait in multiple lines to access the other half. Total time not including lunch was about two hours of waiting and a lot of driving just to vote in a goddam primary.
Its shameful that the Republican party has been allowed to continuously and increasingly restrict access to the Constitutional right to vote. Their rationale, of course, is based on lies since their actual goal is voter suppression not election integrity which is one of their standard lies. Texas Republicans are perfectly happy to make the lives of their fellow Texans miserable simply for political gain. This reason alone should be enough to vote the bastards out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(86,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)Im 66 years old. I was young when Dr. King was leading the Civil Rights movement and LBJ, a Texan, was shepherding the Great Society legislation through Congress. I never dreamed we would be back here. Screw them! Lets defeat them thoroughly in November and become an even greater society.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
irisblue
(32,968 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)this is OUTRAGEOUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)reputation of the State. The Secretary of State in Tx. needs to issue a BIG apology to the citizens and explain what they did wrong and what they've done to guarantee it will never happen again!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Good on this guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
budkin
(6,699 posts)This is unacceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
renate
(13,776 posts)I'm glad he's getting the credit he deserves!
(I feel kind of bad for all the people who were just a few minutes in front of him in line, but....)
I was also glad to see both CNN and MSNBC commentators talking about how this is absolutely disgraceful in the United States of America. I hope they address this in every single primary that comes up from now on. It's embarrassing. The whole world is watching really closely this time, and they can see that in this titular democracy, voting is being squelched in poor, black, and brown neighborhoods.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rickford66
(5,523 posts)GOTV should zero in on this
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
drray23
(7,627 posts)Trip to the convention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,592 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,592 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)about this guy, saying that MF45 should be worried that people are willing to wait in line 7 hours to help choose his replacement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(58,776 posts)and new Democratic senators who will vote to pass HB1.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aussie105
(5,383 posts)In a democratic country, you want to exercise your right to vote, and you have to wait 7 hours?
That's not Democracy, that's more like voting by Survival of the most Determined!
How many said 'Bother and tarnation, stuff this, carry on without me!' and went home?
I get twitchy when I have to vote at the local polling station (primary school hall, 5 minute walk away) and I have to get in line with as many as <GASP!> 10 people!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,431 posts)This is plain voter suppression. They are hoping people who "look like Democrats" will give up after a few hours and leave.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Daxter
(103 posts)It is the only way they can win (and getting help from Trumps bff Putin). The GOP keeps trying to shut down polling stations to try and stop minority voters from voting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided