Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders embraces the Establishment
fter seriously underperforming on Super Tuesday, Bernie Sanders is out with a new ad that appears to shift his message from bashing the establishment to embracing it.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/04/sanders-pivots-message-in-new-ad/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Should have taken more steps to show he can work with the party instead of against it. That tweet he sent out the night before Nevada was really off-putting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)I think we've pretty much got his measure. Not sure any "messaging" in the next 20 minutes is really going to persuade ...
(If you like him, that's fine .. your prerogative. But he is what he is.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)About how he's been more of a dealmaker/compromiser in the House and Senate than his campaign would have you believe. For example, he voted for the ACA despite being in favor of single payer, because he felt it was better than not passing anything. But he doesn't like to start out in a compromise position or concede anything until it's clear he won't get what he wants. So he downplayed his ability to compromise in his campaign. Interesting article - you should give it a read.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-sanders-image-left-wing-purist-belied-record-compromise-n1143956
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)compromise is part of politics. The difference (IMO) is that the adults in the room are always willing to admit this .. And then there are others ...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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jimfields33
(15,763 posts)Sanders can get this. Biden is not a strong campaigner which is why everyone had to lift him. Bidens one gaff away from losing. Sanders is standing by ready for duty.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,935 posts)That's an unbeatable combination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)I think people got real sick of the commercials. We have 9 months of commercials more the usual that will not be ok.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,935 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Cary
(11,746 posts)He has $40 million to spend
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Cary
(11,746 posts)Why spin? You will get dizzy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)Only a third of voters have voted so far.
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Cary
(11,746 posts)Bashing the very people you need to help you? Then you wonder why those people reject you?
Come on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems quite a pattern.
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jimfields33
(15,763 posts)Dont get me started.
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AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)started off his campaign like this, it would have been brilliant strategy (of course the fanatics on his campaign staff never would have gone for it). But now it's just shameless pandering that reeks of desperation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Old-fashioned stuff like that?
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MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)So we'll call it spring deflection.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)and tactics all the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,229 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)Agree that people can (and should) learn and make adjustments. But at the same time .. it's certainly fair game?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)include the whole Democratic base voter. Can't make that switch in a 12 hour period in the dark of the night and expect a single person to buy it. Sanders has held up misogynist racist creeps as his endorsers with a slap across the face to women.
Doesn't work so easily as a "change" of mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)And joined the Democratic Party armed with a flamethrower? Seems I've heard something about that, didn't know it was Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,800 posts)I worry more about them, some don't seem very tempered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Maybe he has some ideas?
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Has he disavowed being a Socialist? Has he declared himself to be a member of the Democratic party?
No? Then we've got nothing to talk about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,203 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)He's certainly not changing his mind or embracing compromise. He's pandering big time hoping that he can attract votes from people of color and older voters. He's insulted the Democratic party for years now while glomming on to use the fruits of their base's labor. No reason to trust him now. Trust has to be earned, like respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden