Just heard Bernie suggest to Rachel that the magical surge in voters will happen in the GE.

[highplainsdem]

It obviously hasn't happened yet in the primary, especially the surge in voting by young voters that Sanders keeps promising.

He got more than a little testy, raising his voice as Rachel brought up the turnout data.

[NurseJackie]

1. Oh Bernie!

[we can do it]

2. BS knows more than everyone, even Rachel.😹😹😹

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. It will... the movement that Bernie is leading is just gathering steam!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[sheshe2]

6. This.

Biden got 60% of Super Tuesday voters who sat out of 2016 primaries.
Just reported on MSNBC.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287631545

[George II]

7. Excuse me, did you SEE the results on Saturday or last night? Actually you're correct, but...

...the movement is all BIDEN'S!



To Joe:

[Moderateguy]

9. If it is it's leaving Bernie at the station

He needs to be in the GE to benefit from the surge so better get these voters to come out in the primaries first.

[msongs]

11. its just like yesterday never happened lol nt

[Skittles]

42. which really tells us everything we need to know

[beastie boy]

15. After Super Tuesday, I don't think the movement can stand any more gaining...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. More like smoke to go with the mirrors.

[griffi94]

21. You made me spit beer on my keyboard.

[onetexan]

47. Lol, why BS keeps running is the question knowing he can't make inroads with voters outside his base

Seems like a case of self-aggrandisement so he can profit from more books after he's forced to quit.

[Demsrule86]

17. He has been running for years...won't happen...the voters were expanded in North Carolina and

elsewhere...by Biden.

[zackymilly]

18. A BM: A Bernie movement. n/t

[Cha]

35. ouch

[Dem2theMax]

41. Shhhhh.

( don't tell anybody that I laughed at that.)

[Skittles]

43. that is such, er, BS

[highplainsdem]

22. What part of "gathering steam" explains fewer young voters showing up and Sanders getting a smaller

share of that age group, compared to 2016?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287624910

[relayerbob]

27. Yes, it's only been 5 years

And hundreds of millions of dollars invested.

[njhoneybadger]

29. Right, like the steam coming off a pile of horse shit

[greatauntoftriplets]

30. He'd have to be on the November 3 ballot first.

[uponit7771]

32. No ... No. Stop k?

[Codeine]

33. All the cut-n-paste smilies in the world

won’t help now.

[cstanleytech]

40. Honest question..............what happens if you are wrong? Will you support and vote for Biden

should he be the winner or will you sit the election out and risk another Trump term?

[HarlanPepper]

46. Fantasyland nonsense.

[LizBeth]

4. Trust him. GE. Not now. Sure. But in the GE.

[thesquanderer]

12. Fine with me. As long as he works to bring it out no matter who the nominee is. n/t

[George II]

5. I'm not taking chances. If he can't get it done with Democrats, who's to say he'll do it then?

[NurseJackie]

23. If he could-a, he would-a. But he couldn't, and he didn't.

Leadership fail. Inspiration fail. I say we stick with Joe Biden.

[George II]

25. But he should-a? Naaaaah.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Magical thinking.

The surge of young voters has been predicted and counted on for decades and it still hasn't happened. Historically they've voted at approximately half the rate of older voters and this does not seem to be changing. In my state it's so easy to register and vote that they practically drive you to the polls and buy you dinner afterwards but even here it's not happening.

[Wellstone ruled]

31. So agree.

Just a observation of those attending our Early Caucus Voting pretty much painted the same picture. Not many Tweenies showed up. The Young ones love the Rally bit,but do not punch the ticket on election day.

[Awsi Dooger]

45. Youth turnout doesn't change much except it plummets in midterms

As you indicated they are half as reliable. Their percentage turnout can shift from cycle to cycle but that is merely proportional to what every other block is doing.

There has been a slight uptick. This is the 18-29 percentage of the presidential vote since 2004:

* 2004...17%
* 2008 ...18%
* 2012---19%
* 2016...19%

In midterms it falls way off. It was 13% in 2018. That's why it was so disastrous and incomparably stupid to nominate Andrew Gillum in Florida under nonsense that the liberal youth vote would carry the day. The 18-29 bracket was 10% in that Florida governors race compared to 39% from 45-64 and 36% at 65 and up.

I follow these numbers, mostly for wagering purposes. I have hundreds of Excel spreadsheets with political numbers. That's why I enjoy laughing at Rachel Bitecofer and anyone who believes they are reinventing the math.

[madaboutharry]

10. Did he use the word magical?

I ask because you really need to know what your doing when using magic.

[sheshe2]

13. Here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287631545

Biden got 60% of Super Tuesday voters who sat out of 2016 primaries.
Just reported on MSNBC.

[BigmanPigman]

14. I saw that. Her reaction was classic.

I was watching her reaction and she was like, "Oh, OK" since he was so short with her and their discussion about 2008, Obama and Nevada.

[McKim]

19. I thought Sanders was reasonable.

I watched the same interview and I thought that Sanders was reasonable and even tempered. It is refreshing that he is having a full interview without being attacked with sound bytes so that we can really learn what he is about. Remember it is important to treat every candidate with respect because you are going to need those Sanders voters in the future.

[Zambero]

20. He could be (hopefully) correct on that

The 2018 mid-terms were a big question mark up until election day, but by most accounts those results exceeded expectations. I sense that 2020 will be an even bigger push, as voters from a wide range of demographics mobilize to end the Trump presidency. Many who opted to sit out 2016 or go third-party will be reconsidering this time around, as it should be clear by now that we no longer have the luxury of sitting on the sidelines every four years until our "perfect" candidate materializes. Bad shit happens in the meantime. If Bernie gets the nod, he will have my full support.

[Wounded Bear]

36. But the big turnout surge isn't 'young voters'...

it's been suburban women and educated voters.

[GulfCoast66]

38. Ah...don't leave out African Americans.

[zackymilly]

24. Bernie's on his magical mystery tour hoping to take you away. n/t

[Just_Vote_Dem]

26. And I'm missing wrestling for this

[Just_Vote_Dem]

28. He says he has more support now than in 2016???? n/t

[Codeine]

34. He probably does.

They just can’t be arsed to cast a ballot.

[Cha]

37. The numbers prove differently.

[Jarqui]

39. He needs them to get out and vote in the primary

Therefore, it's just BS.

[Historic NY]

44. And for my next act farting unicorns....

[link:|]

[bucolic_frolic]

48. Sanders is the same ol' same ol'

Bloomberg has the data. Beer doesn't motivate millennials.