There IS a massive conspiracy to deny Sanders the nomination!!!

[brooklynite]

Millions of people are blocking his forward momentum by.....voting for Biden.

[msongs]

1. its the height of arrogance to claim ppl voting for joe, liz, amy, pete are not working class nt

[iluvtennis]

27. Exactly. I was so DISGUSTED that I, a working person, aren't apart of the working class. nt

[UncleNoel]

2. Yeah! Not a conspiracy, a movement. A movement fueld by VOTERS!

[still_one]

3. It is kind of hard to get the party's nomination when one disparages 70% of them

[DinahMoeHum]

19. . . .and when one's not even a member of the party to begin with.

n/t

[still_one]

23. +++

[Hekate]

29. But he's gonna waltz into the Convention & if he has even a 10-vote plurality...

Ugh. He doesn't like the rules he was invited to help write -- and as a Senator he is a super-delegate himself.

Brokering a convention is normal compromise, not an evil plot.

[BootinUp]

4. Better call the

Waaaaah mbulance AND the Ghostbusters!

[highplainsdem]

5. Yes, and you have NO idea how hard it's been to make sure everyone gets the secret code words every

hour, so we can keep the conspiracy going.

[MaryMagdaline]

6. I know. I just got mine and Florida primary is only weeks away

[brooklynite]

10. "The Swallows will return to Capistrano"

[LizBeth]

7. Right.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. My state's primary is in May. Y'all don't have to wait for me.

[Stonepounder]

28. Mine as well. But I will be completely content if Joe has the nomination already wrapped up by then

N/T

[Moderateguy]

9. I was actually asked by a liberal friend why the moderates just couldn't stay home?

I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry

[Wounded Bear]

12. Anybody who is hoping voters stay home so they could win...

should probably just support Republicans.

[Duppers]

30. In all seriousness?

[yaesu]

11. must be a slow news night

yawn

[Cha]

17. Thanks for kicking the thread.

[gab13by13]

13. Joe isn't the nominee yet, if he is I will enthusiastically support him.

A couple of points about Joe v Bernie.

1. Bernie has already been vetted, by both Republicans and Democrats. You see what you get with Bernie.

2. Joe hasn't really been challenged on the debate stage because of so many candidates, because Joe hasn't been truly vetted I think he will have trouble in 1 on 1 debates whether they be v Bernie or v Trump.

3. Bernie has skeletons in his closet, we all know what they are.
Joe has skeletons in his closet that people are going to see.

4. I'm still not convinced that Joe is the better candidate to beat Trump but I am showing signs he may be.

[FreeState]

16. Are you saying Joe hasn't been vetted?

Really?

[Cha]

18. no he is not.. But the OP stands.

[Perseus]

14. This is a Biden party, only Biden supporters are here now, I will vote for Biden and support him

as much as I am able to, no doubt, to me the most important task we have as USA citizens is to get rid of the cancer we have in the administration, that includes trump, pompeo, barr, moscow-mitch, jordan, and I can go on and on...

Now that I have made my disclaimer lets answer your assessment about the conspiracy against Bernie Sanders, one which you made as a sarcastic joke, well taken...

I will start with a question that I am sure you all can answer. How did the Russians turn voters against Hillary Clinton in 2016? And what was the result of those efforts.

I will start with one simple fact...USA Citizens may be the most politically ignorant people in the World. It hurts me to say it, but it is the truth.

On Hillary Clinton. Even people I know who have studied in College, some of them have master degrees, even people who are well educated in their particular fields believed that Hillary Clinton was a monster because of things they had read, some from Facebook, some from word of mouth from people they trust, some from the media, and other places, but there you have it, these people who did not like trump either decided "they could not vote for Hillary" so they didn't vote, or simply went out and voted for trump. Are they sorry now they did that? Of course they are. Have they learned their lesson to try to educate themselves politically? The majority, NO!

So here we have an example of how easy it is to move the USA masses, just a few well presented lies, we don't take the time to verify, and boom! we either don't vote or vote for the other person.

So, I have answered the two questions...

Now, about the effort from our Democratic leaders to move people from Sanders to Biden, you are going to deny that didn't happen?

Google the many articles put out by the NYT and WAPO where the DNC and leaders of the Democratic party said it loud and clear they don't want the "socialist" to win, they don't want Bernie to win because he divides the party, which is a very interesting thing to say when those words are actually the ones that divide the party. For anyone to ignore or deny that there has been a concerted effort to sway the vote from Sanders to Biden would be not recognizing or supporting the truth.

We even had a post that stated "I was a Bernie supporter, but I am switching to Biden", and the reasons? Many just came from what was fed in the media, can't remember if any were original.

So yes, that is how a conspiracy works, a lot of information and misinformation is thrown out rapidly, no time for those listening to think, and because we USA citizens do not really like to find out by ourselves the truth and we trust the people on TV, and our Democratic leaders without question, then we change our minds and vote for the other guy. So, many will come to the conclusion that in fact, Democratic leaders conspired against Sanders.

[NCProgressive]

26. Are you saying all the voters who voted for Biden were swayed by the media

and voted out of fear of socialism?



Let's face it - people had enough of Sanders. He has been running for 4 straight years and many like me have seen him attack the Democratic party left and right, calling it corrupt.

Doesn't Sanders get any blame whatsoever for having policies that he can't pay for and calling for a "revolution" which is a hyperbole and anti-climactic?

Don't you think the party has every right to be worried that Trump may win and down-ballot races will be in jeopardy if Sanders got the nomination? Isn't that reasonable? Is it so unreasonable that some candidates with no hope of winning endorsed Biden? That happens all the time - no conspiracy there.

Why has not Sanders officially joined the Democratic party instead of using it as an AirBnB? Could that make Democrats distrust him?

[Thekaspervote]

15. And that's what sanders says, does he believe it?

[Under The Radar]

20. Wasn't sure about those Russian Bots until now

[gibraltar72]

21. For some it's just resignation.

[William769]

22. Kick & recommended.

[Demsrule86]

24. + 10000

[vercetti2021]

25. Yeah my feed on Facebook has been anti Biden everything

And these are from people that I know personally too. I've been blamed already when I vote for Joe in the general election that if Trump wins I'm to blame

[Duppers]

31. 😂

I was part of a "conspiracy."

I still like Bernie but not his rude supporters. Wish he'd never used that label, you know the one too many Americans are repulsed by. Too many identify it only by the dictionary definition.


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