Bernie once endorsed a book called: "Buyers remorse: How Obama let progressives down."

[pnwmom]

In a radio talk show interview, he also endorsed the possibility of someone running against Obama in 2012.

He has spent his career decrying "establishment" politicians -- who, in the south and urban areas, are heavily African American.

Is it any wonder that he has little support among the African American community?

So little that now he has to put out a fake ad, spliced and diced to make it appear that Obama's endorsing him. For shame.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-barack-obama-book-cover-218455

Sanders' above-the-title blurb -- "Bill Press makes the case...Read this book" -- is an abbreviated form of a less sensational quote that reads: "Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen. Read this book."

SNIP

The book is described in promotional materials as an explanation of "the many ways President Obama has failed to live up to either his promises or his progressive potential, leaving Democrats disillusioned on the issues that matter most."

"The promise was so great. The hope was so real" reads one passage. "But it didn't take long after Obama made it to the White House for that bubble to burst. And it happened so fast."

Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said the senator's quote "is absolutely true," but he emphasized that Sanders doesn't necessarily support the book's entire content.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/heres-the-truth-about-bernie-sanders-deceptively-edited-barack-obama-ad/

The first part of the ad, during which Obama says “Bernie is somebody who has the virtue of saying exactly what he believes” and praises Bernie’s “great authenticity” and “great passion” comes from a January 2016 podcast interview with Glenn Thrush, during which he diplomatically praised both then-candidates for the Democratic nomination — and in which Obama notes he doesn’t know Sanders as well as he knows Clinton.

But the part Sanders knitted together with that clip from the 2016 DNC is actually made up of quotes from Senator Barack Obama, when he campaigned for Sanders’ Senate bid on March 10, 2006. The snippets were cut out of a segment in which Obama ribbed Sanders about his off-the-rack couture, and offered the praise quoted in the ad for Sanders and Peter Welch.

[uponit7771]

1. K&R, the book was bashing because the premises of a lot of the criticism weren't true

[Buzz cook]

5. So some were true?

A lot does not mean all.

[Magoo48]

31. I felt he sorta let me down when he couldn't find his walkin' shoes and get to Madison.

How do you write a real book about someone and not point out their shortcomings?

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[Cha]

3. KR! oh yeah, BS was a great supporter of Pres Obama

when he endorsed Press' book "Buyers' Remorse".. How Obama let "progressives" down.

This should be in an Ad..

[hangaleft]

4. Wasn't it Axelrod who disparagingly coined the phrase "professional left"?

With Obama’s acquiescence.

Obama was a class act. Held Office with dignity. But he did let this progressive down. Particularly because of Axelrod’s dismissive remark and attitude, which I believe was shared by Obama. His actions reflect it.

[treestar]

27. What progressive legislation did President Obama veto?

[Buzz cook]

6. Not just progressives.

His administration failed at helping home owners.

His administration failed to spend all the stimulus funds, leaving millions on the table.

His administration bailed out the auto industry forcing cuts to auto workers contracts. At the same time his administration bailed out the financial sector without getting similar cuts from the.

Obama was an ok president, not a good one.

[pnwmom]

7. Are you forgetting the fact that the R's controlled the House and the Senate after the first year?

Nothing could get past the Senate filibuster?

[AncientGeezer]

11. We had the House until Jan'11 and the Senate 'till Jan'15

[pnwmom]

16. We only had enough to overcome a FILIBUSTER for a few months in the first year.

59 plus Independent and unreliable Joe Lieberman.

And in January of Obama's first year, the Rs had a dinner meeting at which they vowed to obstruct him on every piece of legislation he proposed.

[AncientGeezer]

17. Sen Reid went Nuke for appointees and lower court nominees...R's upped it to SCOTUS.

Ldr. Reid not doing it on Filibuster eligible "Legislation" was the right call.....Imagine the Trump crap the R's would have thrashed through before we took back the House.... ACA would be Gone as a prime example.

[True Blue American]

32. And that is how

Obama managed to GE the ACA passed. Hen scare tactics caused voters to vote Republican causing many good Dems to lose their seats!

[AncientGeezer]

39. Maybe edit that post so I have a clue what it means....or what it refers to.

[Historic NY]

8. Wait what....."Sanders doesn't necessarily support the book's entire content".

the WTF wrote it.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. I didn't read the book, but I do remember that Obama

Was at odds with progressives on this very site many times.i.e. not looking harder at the mistakes made by Bush after 9/11, which allowed the Right to hold onto their sense of loyalty and righteousness longer than they deserved. And that served Mitch McConnell well. Remember? His motto was Look forward. Also, Obama’s immigration policy infuriated many progressives. And technically, he was a moderate. Unless we are now redefining the term progressive, which is generally assigned to the Left. I never really felt that he tapped into the progressive base for support, nor tried. His policy was more to appease the Right and not get into a public dogfight with them. I would like to believe that he would act differently if he had another go at this. What I do think Obama did extremely well was use effectively the knowledge base of great public servants in his administration. He had many.

[pnwmom]

10. Yeah, there have always been some anti-Obama people here. So? Most of us realized

that Obama had an extremely short window after his first election to accomplish anything significant (because Ted Kennedy's death changed everything), that we were in the middle of the worst recession since the great depression, and many R's were happy to have that continue so that Obama would be a one term President. (Remember the famous dinner in January of Obama's inauguration when the Rs got together and vowed to obstruct every single piece of legislation Obama proposed?)

So Obama had to work with the Republicans to save the country from the Great Recession, and to get the ACA passed, and thus he couldn't indulge the revenge fantasy to punish George Bush pushed by many here. Nancy Pelosi knew better, thank goodness.

And Obama was a liberal who supported FDR's Great Society and sought to bring it forward with the ACA . If you don't know what a moderate looks like, think Doug Jones and Joe Manchin. They each score in the 50-60 range at Progressive Punch. Bernie is not a liberal. As he has said many times, he is a socialist. That's far to the left of most liberals.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. I think you're very dismissive of people who criticized his programs.

Not everyone was anti-Obama. They just called it the way they saw it. Here's a great analysis from someone who considers him a conservative. He brings up a good point. If he does something that appears progressive, he generally does it in a Republican way. ACA is a good example. It came from the heritage foundation.

Ironically, I had a woman who lamented the loss of a brother who was a drug addict. She was upset because her brother could never pay the ACA costs and of course, she blamed Obama.

I sat quietly and listened, knowing that she was Republican and the option she believed would have saved her brothers life was very progressive. Not sure how you get from one point to the other if you're not going to vote for a Democrat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/11/22/barack-obama-conservative/?arc404=true

[TwilightZone]

28. "considers him a conservative"

An assertion that is laughable.

[pnwmom]

44. Sorry, I'm not going to take the word of a conservative the Obama wasn't progressive.

Obama fully supported the ACA and he made as much progress in healthcare as was possible, given the limitations posed by the Senate. And his appointments to the Supreme Court have proven to be liberal, too.

[Baitball Blogger]

45. It would have been helpful if you had read the other thread.

The opinion piece from the Washington Post nailed the issues that even the progressives saw. For example, ACA was hatched by the Heritage Foundation. A purely conservative organization. I'm guessing that Obama thought that if he co-opted conservative ideas (Much like Clinton did) that the Republicans would play nice. He was wrong almost every time. And because he failed to win over progressives completely, he lost a valuable support group that would have run interference for him. Just my opinion on that last piece.

[uponit7771]

12. Obama was a progressive ... period. Anyone would have trouble with bro-like and people who said he

.. "niggerized" the office of the presidency like Sanders surrogate Cornell West did.

I didn't see 10s of millions of protesters fighting for the PO coordinated by self proclaimed progressives I saw the self proclaimed progressives booing Obama while the world was on his back walking uphill waiting for him to "gather all progressive".

If Sanders was out front of those 10s of millions fighting for one person one vote, public option and holding bush feet to the fire he'd be a shoe in, Clinton wouldn't even have ran in 16.

[Baitball Blogger]

21. .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/11/22/barack-obama-conservative/?arc404=true

[uponit7771]

23. Democratic voters are more like Obama than Sanders. The writers premise is skipping beyond that

... gating factor and using Sanders M$M fed delusional standard of what "left" is.

This is not healthy journalism.

Obama; "This is still a country that is less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement"

I 100% agree, America needs renovating not burned down to the slab.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. Linguisitics.

Change is change. It was once Obama's motto.

[uponit7771]

29. Burning something down to the slab isn't change its destruction, Obama's popularity isn't semantics

... its reality.

[Baitball Blogger]

37. This reminds me of the time I wanted to fill in the ruts on our common grounds in my HOA.

It was a simple matter. I thought the kids would be able to use those common grounds without twisting an ankle if the holes were filled. And the main actor behind the attempt to take those common grounds to deed over to the homeowners whose homes line up to the property said, "She wants to build a soccerfield. We don't have $30,000 to spend on that kind rennovation." I was being gaslighted. The level of exaggeration to disparage my position shocked me, especially since other neighbors joined in the trashing.

That's what I think is going on with this constant attack on Bernie's policies. You're gaslighting him. He's not going to tear everything to rebuild it. It would take him 2 to 3 years just to get his administration up and running. And he can't do much of anything without legislative support.

Look, I am voting for Joe Biden, but I hate all of the gaslighting.

[uponit7771]

38. "He's not going to tear everything to rebuild it". That's not what's being communicated with the

... use of words like revolution and treating the democratic and republican party like they're both equally against him.

Those words means something and its usually not "lets make what we have better"

Ok, lets agree Sanders is not going to tear down everything he's going to tear down a lot of things namely the ACA.

That's not gas lighting, that's fact ... we both can agree on that.

[Baitball Blogger]

40. I'm not sure that he'll completely go for the Medicaid for All

because even AOC has backtracked. They may compromise on that issue. We'll see at the next debate.

[uponit7771]

41. I don't see how he can back track on it now seeing MFA was a staple of his campaign. He advocated

... doing away with what's there instead of building on top of it to make it better.

I don't think as many Americans was down with that as Sanders thought,

We'll see

[Baitball Blogger]

42. +1

[greenjar_01]

13. He's up on that stage with Brother West preaching the Hate Obama gospel

Then you drop a couple of hits / See how they wave to you.

[JCMach1]

14. Obama was never a progressive

I said it at the time and stand by my assessment.

It didn't stop me voting for him two times though.

We can disagree on policies, approaches and even personalities.

We are not Republicans, we have a right and duty to speak to things we speak strongly about.

[pnwmom]

15. You were wrong then and you're wrong now. Passing the ACA was the definition of progressive.

He managed to make progress despite the R's getting together the first month of his Presidency, and agreeing to obstruct every piece of legislation he put forward. And he got the ACA passed even though Ted Kennedy died and it was no longer possible to overcome a filibuster.

And he also made a couple great appointments to the Supreme Court.

If you want to know what a centrist looks like, look at Joe Manchin and Doug Jones -- not Obama.

[LongtimeAZDem]

18. This +1

[treestar]

25. +1 billion

[mcar]

26. +1

[TwilightZone]

35. Ah, but they think Manchin is a hard-core conservative.

When he's actually as moderate as anyone in modern politics.

That's how they justify Obama being a moderate or a conservative, by tilting the scale. Same with Biden.

[BusyBeingBest]

19. He was more moderate than progressive, IMO.

Not that I minded it.

[JCMach1]

46. Obama was an incrementalist... Translates to Moderate

I guess

[nolabear]

22. Bernie isn't a progressive.

Progressives believe in progress. Bernie believes in burning things down and starting over with his revolutionaries somehow doing it all themselves, without that awful “establishment.”

[Skidmore]

30. This.

He's a reactionary and a demagogue. It is easy to understand why he finds merit in the likes of Castro.

[showblue22]

43. You're 100% correct.

People like to point to videos of Bernie opposing Iraq war and other things that help uplift him but there are other videos of him lierally praising communist. All of Bernie's past paints a picture of who he is not just some of it.

[NurseJackie]

33. "Progressives believe in progress." --- Absolutely. I've said this hundreds of times.

"Progressives believe in progress."

Absolutely. I've said this hundreds of times.

Bernie's all of nothing approach always ends up with nothing. He's unwilling or incapable of working with others... and according to Hillary's recent Hulu special, nobody likes him anyway. So he holds firm (which sounds admirable on the surface) and he likes to boast that he doesn't believe in compromise... yet in the end, walking away with nothing is basically preserving the status-quo (which he supposedly hates).

There will be no revolution. It's a fantasy.

[Miguelito Loveless]

34. And Biden voted for a "Bankruptcy Reform" bill

that made huge profits for banks, while destroying poor people's lives.

Do we really want to dig into each side's mistakes? Who is that going to help?

[TwilightZone]

36. There's a difference between pointing out a candidate's stance on one issue

and pointing out that a candidate endorsed a book criticizing a Democratic president's entire administration.

Particularly when that candidate suggested that said Democratic president should be primaried going into his second term.

[Cha]

47. And when that candiate made a Vid with Pres

Obama.. like they were best friends or something.

[Miguelito Loveless]

48. Again, keep making these types of arguments

and we get another 4 years of Trump.

Hell, the NYT is joining in to help, pushing Soviet-era documents they were shopped so they can take down Sanders. And once Sanders is out, they will go after Biden, and this type of in-fighting will have so poisoned the well, it will be 2016 all over again.