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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

RandySF

(58,770 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:20 AM Mar 2020

AOC is voting Blue no matter who.

“I am supporting Bernie Sanders until the end. But at the same time, I also am committed to supporting the nominee, whoever that might be.”

— Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), quoted by Bloomberg.



https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/05/bonus-quote-of-the-day-1283/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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AOC is voting Blue no matter who. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
That's a good sign. honest.abe Mar 2020 #1
So am I, and the majority of other Bernie supporters I know. DanTex Mar 2020 #2
I have not seen or heard that in 2naSalit Mar 2020 #3
Me either squirecam Mar 2020 #8
Because the media likes to sow division and play up the few who say they won't democrattotheend Mar 2020 #22
Unfortunately the most extremist of the Bernie Bros get a lot of media attention IronLionZion Mar 2020 #5
"Big winds come from empty caves." I never get tired of using that bullwinkle428 Mar 2020 #21
Exactly democrattotheend Mar 2020 #23
Yes, most Bernie supporters Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #6
Yes, but all candidates have a toxic minority of supporters who behave awfully on social media. DanTex Mar 2020 #7
Could you point me to the toxic Amy or Pete trolls squirecam Mar 2020 #10
I think it's candidates who had a real chance jimfields33 Mar 2020 #14
The claim was that All candidates have such toxic supporters. squirecam Mar 2020 #19
Your candidate is one gaff away from losing the whole thing jimfields33 Mar 2020 #25
I was For Amy squirecam Mar 2020 #27
Well I get why you'd say that. You seem to pick some real "winners" jimfields33 Mar 2020 #28
Thank you for your vote for Biden this November! squirecam Mar 2020 #30
Bernie will prevail jimfields33 Mar 2020 #32
Agree. Team mentality. tavernier Mar 2020 #11
I've seen at least as many toxic anti-Bernie tweets democrattotheend Mar 2020 #24
That is what I did in 2016 LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #9
It would also help if Sanders would stop telling us he's fighting the Democratic party. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #15
I guess continuing to bash Bernie and his supporters is also an option... DanTex Mar 2020 #16
Quoting Bernie is not bashing WA-03 Democrat Mar 2020 #17
It goes both ways squirecam Mar 2020 #20
The fringe elements Chainfire Mar 2020 #18
I have never used "brownshirts" or "Nazi" MH1 Mar 2020 #29
As we all should IronLionZion Mar 2020 #4
Of course she is. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2020 #12
I like AOC's sensible statements NYMinute Mar 2020 #13
Good to hear, also hope if it is Joe she will do what she would do if it was Bernie Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #26
If you're shocked by this, shame on you. Laelth Mar 2020 #31
 

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
1. That's a good sign.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

She can help unify the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. So am I, and the majority of other Bernie supporters I know.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

As for the few holdouts, I'll be working on them. One thing that would be helpful to me in that regard is for people in the media to stop calling them brownshirts and cultists and comparing them to the coronavirus and the Nazi army.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
3. I have not seen or heard that in
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

reference to Bernie supports in the media. Interesting.

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
22. Because the media likes to sow division and play up the few who say they won't
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

At least 76% of us voted for Hillary in 2016. But other than showing a brief clip of a sign someone made using a slogan I'm pretty sure I started in 2016 ("Bernie Has My Heart, Hillary Has My Vote&quot at the convention, the media doesn't give the "normal" Bernie supporters much attention. The radical, disruptive ones are more interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
5. Unfortunately the most extremist of the Bernie Bros get a lot of media attention
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:40 AM
Mar 2020

The more reasonable Bernie supporters would vote blue no matter who

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
21. "Big winds come from empty caves." I never get tired of using that
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:02 PM
Mar 2020

ancient proverb, and the very first time I heard was in a line from an episode of "All in the Family"!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
23. Exactly
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie himself has already said that his supporters should vote for whomever the nominee is.

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Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
6. Yes, most Bernie supporters
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

are nice people. I know several of them. Young idealists. They’ll surely vote against Trump in November. I will admit that he has a toxic minority of supporters who behave awfully on social media

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. Yes, but all candidates have a toxic minority of supporters who behave awfully on social media.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:46 AM
Mar 2020

It's not just Bernie. Run some searches on twitter, and it's easy to see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
10. Could you point me to the toxic Amy or Pete trolls
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

That doxxed candidates, blocked their cars, telephoned others with insults and threats, or stood outside their house late a night with a megaphone yelling?

Because I’d like to speak to these idiots. The only Amy one I recall was the woman who caucused for Pete, but didn’t know Pete was gay. Which is a far cry from the above harassment.

I’ll wait....

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
14. I think it's candidates who had a real chance
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

Not the second string.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
19. The claim was that All candidates have such toxic supporters.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:54 PM
Mar 2020

As to the second string slam, this is why your candidate isn’t going to win. Lack of graciousness and inability to build a coalition outside his already captured base.

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jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
25. Your candidate is one gaff away from losing the whole thing
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

He’s a huge risk which is why the whole party was a nervous wreck. They still are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
27. I was For Amy
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

And I’ll gladly take the gaffe prone candidate over the angry and bitter one you support.

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jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
28. Well I get why you'd say that. You seem to pick some real "winners"
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

It took the entire party to push him. And Klobuchar’s shining moment was 3rd place. Congrats!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
30. Thank you for your vote for Biden this November!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
32. Bernie will prevail
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:22 PM
Mar 2020

He’s consistent. Biden’s all over the map.

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tavernier

(12,377 posts)
11. Agree. Team mentality.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

I will always root for Michigan over Ohio State and call the red team terrible, horrible, well deserved names... and they will do the same on their side... but they aren’t running for leader of my country and this is not a game.

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
24. I've seen at least as many toxic anti-Bernie tweets
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

As tweets from Bernie supporters this year. To be fair, though, it could be because I unfollowed a lot of the most obnoxious Bernie tweeters in 2016 after the primaries were over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
9. That is what I did in 2016
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:48 AM
Mar 2020

I supported Sanders till Clinton became the official nominee then supported and voted for her.

I will support either Warren/Sanders this time till the convention then support the official nominee this time as well.

I am no political hipster, my positions are more than a fashion choice to me. And the only way to see them succeed is to vote Democratic in November no matter which candidate we choose.

And really Bloomberg was the only one running I did not like in some way so it won’t be that bad for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. It would also help if Sanders would stop telling us he's fighting the Democratic party.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:01 PM
Mar 2020

Or pretending that simply by placing the word 'establishment' in front of a noun, that noun has no credibility.

Or try dropping the whole "we're being oppressed by different opinions" as well... as that tired old dog just don't hunt any more.

Might be easier to "work on" that first... as it seems so much nearer to you than not.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. I guess continuing to bash Bernie and his supporters is also an option...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020
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WA-03 Democrat

(3,046 posts)
17. Quoting Bernie is not bashing
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020

He says it every in every speech. It’s a turn off to Democrats.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
20. It goes both ways
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:55 PM
Mar 2020

See above...

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Chainfire

(17,530 posts)
18. The fringe elements
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mar 2020

To be found at the extreme ends of any political issue will always be there. They are small in number and small in power.

At some point, it appears that Bernie will have a decision to make, to the be a uniter or a divider. I hope he has the character do the right thing for the sake of his people and the rest of the American people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MH1

(17,600 posts)
29. I have never used "brownshirts" or "Nazi"
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:31 PM
Mar 2020

and when I have referred to a certain subset of supporters as "cultish", I have always been clear that I am referring to a relatively small (if loud and obnoxious) subset.

I think Nazi references are WAY over the top and am sorry if anyone uses that. I don't believe it is even accurate for any actual Sanders supporter.

"Cultish", though - I know some in real life that I feel warrant that label. Luckily, as said, it is a small group. I just hope they either come around, or at least don't screw it up for the rest of us. I appreciate any of their fellow supporters who are "working on them" as you say. (It's never too early to try to get cult-like followers - of anyone - back to a normal appreciation of their hero or heroine. If you really don't know any Bernie supporters like that, then great, it's not on you.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
4. As we all should
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:38 AM
Mar 2020

at this point the feel the burn crowd can hold our nominee's feet to the fire to commit to a liberal platform. If we can get lefty legislation passed through a Dem majority Senate, a Dem president will sign it into law whoever it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
12. Of course she is.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

Who would think she wouldn't?

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
13. I like AOC's sensible statements
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. Good to hear, also hope if it is Joe she will do what she would do if it was Bernie
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

and that is AGGRESSIVELY, LOUDLY, DAILY campaign for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. If you're shocked by this, shame on you.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:36 PM
Mar 2020

AOC is no idiot.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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