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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:22 PM Mar 2020

Politico: Biden can finish Bernie off in Michigan

It was Michigan where Sanders engineered a primary day miracle four years ago, upsetting Hillary Clinton and imprinting his populist agenda on the industrial Midwest.
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Even before Sanders’ woebegone Tuesday — marked by losses to Joe Biden throughout the South and in Massachusetts and Minnesota — a Detroit News/WDIV-TV poll put Biden ahead of Sanders by nearly 7 percentage points in Michigan. Of voters who had already cast absentee ballots, the outlook was bleaker, with Sanders running behind Biden by nearly 20 percentage points.

And that was before Super Tuesday laid bare the full force of the momentum Biden drew from winning South Carolina, prompting moderate Democrats to coalesce around him and persuading many undecided voters to break his way.

“This thing could be over for all intents and purposes in three weeks,” said Paul Maslin, a top Democratic pollster who worked on the presidential campaigns of Jimmy Carter and Howard Dean. “It’s done unless Joe makes some horrible mistake. He will win blacks 75-25 minimum from here on in. He doesn’t have Hillary’s negatives. And people want to beat Trump big time. This race is over.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/04/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-michigan-121160

Bernie's last gasp to win Michigan is likely to fail. I think he loses by 10+ points. If so it's over.
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Politico: Biden can finish Bernie off in Michigan (Original Post) honest.abe Mar 2020 OP
Possibly... also possible Bernie can finish off Biden in Michigan!! Let's do it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #1
I like your enthusiasm. honest.abe Mar 2020 #4
He won't. This is over. (And even if he did... it's just delaying the inevitable.) NurseJackie Mar 2020 #8
I like Harris for AG instead squirecam Mar 2020 #9
That's a strong possibility too. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #11
Bazinga! George II Mar 2020 #16
... NYMinute Mar 2020 #14
Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #15
MineralMan posted this one just a few minutes ago: George II Mar 2020 #17
Is that an actually bandwagon! honest.abe Mar 2020 #20
Yes indeed. Love it! George II Mar 2020 #21
Cool! honest.abe Mar 2020 #22
LOL Gothmog Mar 2020 #34
You'll be OK when he doesn't do any better there than he did on Super Tuesday. ehrnst Mar 2020 #18
I don't think he could finish him off, but he could grab some momentum back democrattotheend Mar 2020 #24
Biden doesn't need Michigan...if not Michigan than Florida. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #25
I think Joe wins both. griffi94 Mar 2020 #30
I agree...I just meant it is do or die for Sanders but not Biden in Michigan. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #32
I think the sun is setting on Bernie's campaign. griffi94 Mar 2020 #33
Done as a practical matter. Afraid BS's character is to hurt Dems to the end. empedocles Mar 2020 #2
This! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #3
Yes. He can damage Dems, but he will be forever marginalized, his legacy one of failed emmaverybo Mar 2020 #5
Im afraid you may be correct. honest.abe Mar 2020 #6
Yes. I believe you are correct. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #19
People on Twitter are upset helpisontheway Mar 2020 #7
I have a PROBLEM with Bernie now because..... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2020 #10
Yup!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #13
Yes we can ! OhZone Mar 2020 #12
Let's see what happens democrattotheend Mar 2020 #23
Hmmm, lately they've been OVERestimating Bernie...n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #26
True democrattotheend Mar 2020 #29
Looks like somewhat the opposite is happening this time. honest.abe Mar 2020 #27
But this part was really bad for him: LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #35
He won't quit though. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #28
i wish he would. honest.abe Mar 2020 #31
sanders just cancelled trip to Mississippi to spend more time in Michigan Gothmog Mar 2020 #37
Sanders is cancelling his scheduled speech in Jackson, Mississippi Gothmog Mar 2020 #36
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Possibly... also possible Bernie can finish off Biden in Michigan!! Let's do it!!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
4. I like your enthusiasm.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. He won't. This is over. (And even if he did... it's just delaying the inevitable.)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020

He won't. This is over. (And even if he did... it's just delaying the inevitable.) Bernie's quest to become our country's first Socialist president is a lost cause. It always has been. He knows it. His staff knows it. I know it. And I think even you know it, too. (And I'm sure that Jane Sanders is secretly thrilled that she can return to a normal life in one of her three houses... probably the cozy one with the view of the water.) Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that it's time to jump on the Biden Bandwagon. I'm looking forward to your enthusiastic support.



Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together and can't be bought!!
Jump on the Joe Bandwagon!!



C'MON! GET IN! We're taking back America!



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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
9. I like Harris for AG instead
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:39 PM
Mar 2020

Nt

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. That's a strong possibility too.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Bazinga!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

There's a version of that convertible with Harris in the passenger seat grinning from ear to ear.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
14. ...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:00 PM
Mar 2020




Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
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George II

(67,782 posts)
17. MineralMan posted this one just a few minutes ago:
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:12 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
20. Is that an actually bandwagon!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:06 PM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Yes indeed. Love it!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:07 PM
Mar 2020
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. You'll be OK when he doesn't do any better there than he did on Super Tuesday.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020

Chin up!

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
24. I don't think he could finish him off, but he could grab some momentum back
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

If I recall that's what happened in 2016. Ultimately he still fell short but his shock win in Michigan kept him in the game for a while.

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Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
25. Biden doesn't need Michigan...if not Michigan than Florida.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:30 PM
Mar 2020
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griffi94

(3,733 posts)
30. I think Joe wins both.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie's not going to get much of a bump from Warren dropping out.
The game has changed. Bernie will keep his fiercest, never say die supporters.
Everybody else is lining up behind Joe.

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Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
32. I agree...I just meant it is do or die for Sanders but not Biden in Michigan.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:47 PM
Mar 2020
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griffi94

(3,733 posts)
33. I think the sun is setting on Bernie's campaign.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:56 PM
Mar 2020

Nothing he can do is going bring it back.
The voters emphatically rejected him. I'm sure you've noticed
that a lot of Warrens supporters won't support Bernie in the primary.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. Done as a practical matter. Afraid BS's character is to hurt Dems to the end.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020
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Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. Yes. He can damage Dems, but he will be forever marginalized, his legacy one of failed
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

promises.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
6. Im afraid you may be correct.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

He views the Democratic party as the enemy almost as much as the Republicans. I really wish he had not run this year. I think he and his hard core supporters are going to cause trouble even if Biden racks up a majority delegate count.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Yes. I believe you are correct. (nt)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020
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helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
7. People on Twitter are upset
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders was supposed to campaign in Jackson,MS. He cancelled to go to Michigan instead. They said he is giving up on the black vote and gonna focus on the angry white ones. Then some people said let’s finish him in Michigan. 😮 Maybe he plans to go through Michigan with his buddy Michael Moore.

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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
10. I have a PROBLEM with Bernie now because.....
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020

He wants the Democratic Party nomination and be it's standard bearer without the benifits of membership in the party.

In Union circles, when workers want al the benefits without joining said Union, that is known as a FREELOADER.

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
23. Let's see what happens
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020

It wouldn't be the first time a poll underestimated Bernie in Michigan.

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Just_Vote_Dem

(2,804 posts)
26. Hmmm, lately they've been OVERestimating Bernie...n/t
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020
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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
29. True
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

But that was mostly in a multi-candidate field that thinned out between the time the poll was taken and Super Tuesday. If I recall he matched or overperformed the polls in Nevada. And the race before that was so fluid with so many candidates that I don't think they were all that accurate for any candidate.

Now that it's a two-person race, let's see what happens. Mathematically it's anyone's game. All of the obituaries for Bernie are based on polls and how he did in certain states last time against a different opponent. If they had used that logic in 2016 Hillary's obituary should have been written around this time, because a lot of the states she beat Bernie in were states she was destroyed in 8 years earlier.

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Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
27. Looks like somewhat the opposite is happening this time.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

Biden has being underestimated and Sanders overestimated... at least just prior to SC and ST.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
35. But this part was really bad for him:
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

"Of voters who had already cast absentee ballots, the outlook was bleaker, with Sanders running behind Biden by nearly 20 percentage points."

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
31. i wish he would.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

We would all be better off.

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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
37. sanders just cancelled trip to Mississippi to spend more time in Michigan
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020
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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
36. Sanders is cancelling his scheduled speech in Jackson, Mississippi
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

sanders is abandoning Mississippi to campaign in Michigan


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