Nina Turner on Cuomo. WOW!!!

[showblue22]

She is making it worse for Bernie. Good god! Damn! This is horrific! She looks like she is going to explode! Massive anger issues.

[calimary]

1. Uh-oh...

She's too much. She makes me leave the room.

[showblue22]

5. My heart rate jumped.

It's hard to listen to. I can't imagine her being in my living room with all that anger for 4 years of a Sanders presidency. My mom has high blood pressure and had to take a pill just now.

[wishstar]

7. Bernies's speech Tues. night gave me instant heartburn, a headache and high blood pressure

and I turned TV off after just a couple minutes. I definitely understand the physical reactions you describe. Hope you both can relax and feel better tonight. Stressful times we're in.

[PatSeg]

69. And she's always been like that

A perpetually angry person, really hard to listen to.

[TomCADem]

2. She Can Be Bernie s Sean Spicer

Just yell over questions you do not like and look pissed all the time.

[Cha]

13. You just reminded me of SNL and Melissa MaCarthy!

[we can do it]

3. They are quite a duo. Bluster and wagging fingers.

[showblue22]

12. The campaign is doubling down on their approach.

[2naSalit]

37. Gee, guess it' working?

[Squinch]

4. One has to wonder what he was thinking when he hired her. Again.

[Celerity]

6. If he won the nomination, (he won't) Turner would be his VP

[we can do it]

15. Gawd help us.

[still_one]

19. If he did that then it would be for some revengeful motive in his mind, not to unify a party

[showblue22]

22. I'm afraid so.

I can't imagine Nina Turner out helping to unify anything.

[LiberalFighter]

53. My thought too. I posted that without seeing this.

[George II]

8. I see the candidacy cratering mostly due to the upper staffers he's hired.

[2naSalit]

38. +1

[GulfCoast66]

40. Your seeing that now.

When a Democratic candidate hires upper staffers who did not vote for the last Democratic candidate you should expect a train wreck.

But at heart is the candidate believing his own rhetoric even when it apparent it is not working.

[George II]

43. Many of us saw it as they were being hired in late 2018.

[FreepFryer]

68. Sirota FTL (Nt)

[bullwinkle428]

9. Chris Hayes interviewed her earlier - I thought maybe I was just imagining the pissed-off

and frustrated-looking facial expressions.

[showblue22]

14. It was bad.

Maybe someone has a clip.

[vercetti2021]

10. Yep she isn't helping jack and shit

Again. Spoiled children.

[Cha]

11. Thank you for telling us, showblue!

[showblue22]

18. You're welcome.

She claimed MLK told black people to fear white moderates like Biden.

[Cha]

21. OMG.. pulling out the gd Gaslighting STOPS!

[Celerity]

56. WaPo : Martin Luther King Jr.'s scorn for 'white moderates' in his Birmingham jail letter

This is what she was referring to, but she was being more than a little disingenuous by extrapolating out that Biden would have been seen (the Biden of NOW) in the same light by MLK.


Martin Luther King Jr.’s scorn for ‘white moderates’ in his Birmingham jail letter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/01/15/martin-luther-king-jr-s-scathing-critique-of-white-moderates-from-the-birmingham-jail/

snip

In “Letter From a Birmingham Jail,” King offered a scathing critique of “white moderates” unwilling to do the right thing that still resonates today:

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

To read the whole letter, which is archived at Stanford University’s Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute, go here. Or you can listen to a recording of King reading the letter here.

[emmaverybo]

64. That was amazing--the silence of the white moderate, so Biden not just white and moderate, but

complicit with systemic racism through silence.

[LenaBaby61]

16. Nina Turner on Cuomo. WOW!!!

3 friends called me and told me to take a look at Nina Turner on CNN ... Hurry up, she's making a fool out of herself. Angry, neck snapping etc.

All 3 know that I'm on blood-pressure meds, so I took a hard pass

I know who and what Nina's become the past several years, and the ONLY way I can even think about watching Nina is on mute.

[Cha]

20. I don't have a tv but if I

did I wouldn't be watching.. my stress levels couldn't take it.

It's enough just to read about what she's doing on DU.

Lena

[2naSalit]

39. +1

[Cuthbert Allgood]

45. It is hard to watch

a white women tell a black woman that the black woman is wrong to bring up MLK after the white woman misrepresented MLK.

But hey, let's pile on the black woman, right?

[oasis]

17. Melt down. Two weeks ago Nina thought she had a job waiting for her

in Bernie's administration. She knows damn well "establishment Democrats" would'nt risk the embarrassment of hiring her with that highly volatile personality she can't control.

[Maru Kitteh]

23. Eau de Desperation.

The scent (stench) is just overbearing.

[showblue22]

24. The Sanders campaign is not taking Bernie's loss very well.

Certainly not gracefully.

[Maru Kitteh]

26. I guess when your main goal seemingly is to burn down Democrats, for some reason

you get mad when people choose to vote for Democrats. Funny that.

[DinahMoeHum]

25. They never learn, do they??

The candidates endorsed by their vehicles Justice Democrats and Our Revolution, with one or two exceptions, had their asses handed to them in the 2018 primaries.

The Democrats who defeated them, became the vanguard of the Blue Wave, went on to oust their GOP counterparts, and win seats in Congress and other offices were, for the most part moderates, in red or purple districts.

If they're serious about "taking over the Democratic Party", they should actually join their Democratic committees in their own hometowns and work from there as district leaders/precinct captains, etc. Get enough of them at those levels, work their way upward by winning small offices, then big ones, then maybe the DNC will have a place for them at the table.

As it is, their approach to politics and elections is like dumping a truckload of sugar in the ocean and expecting syrup in return. They'd do a lot better by sweetening the cup in their own communities first.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

46. "They never learn" isn't really a good look

when talking about a black woman's response to a white woman invoking MLK incorrectly.

But, hey, you do you.

[madaboutharry]

27. I think Elizabeth Warren not making an endorsement

was a blow. Warren not making an endorsement “at this time” was a poke in the eye to the Sanders’ campaign. They have had a horrible few days and are very bitter.

[sheshe2]

28. After watching Warren on Maddow just now...

She will never endorse him.

[Yavin4]

29. Video

[oasis]

30. Thrilling and chilling. Thanks Yavin4

[TomCADem]

31. I Think Nina Turner Can Be Bernie's Sean Spicer

[evertonfc]

32. she is awful. I think they want to lose

Why else would you chose such surrogates

[dansolo]

42. No, they want us to lose

They have already declared that WE are the enemy, not Trump.

[IluvPitties]

33. Nasty individual with a nasty message.

[RDavisJ1]

34. Someone done hurt Miss Nina

I never see Nina without a scowl on her face. She's either angry or throwing shade. Someone hurt Miss Nina in a bad way. But she's just like Bernie. She can't take criticism. She hates being corrected, even when she's wrong. Nina does nothing for the "come on in it's comfortable here" atmosphere. I feel like we need to start a hashtag #savenina Because she's obviously an unhappy woman.

[Raine]

35. They both deflected so they could

avoid responding to Cuomo's questions instead arguing with each other. I HATE when spoke's people do that. I wanted to find out what they had to say about the things they will be hammered on by Trump and the repugs during GE campaign. It's so frustrating when this happens!

[The_Counsel]

70. Cuomo Told Both of Them at the Top of the Segment:

Talk about your own campaign and save the "back-n-forth." Nina needed only 35 seconds before breaking that rule.

Her first mistake was assuming that because Hillary Rosen is presumably White, she does not know anything about MLK and/or his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail." He does NOT warn against "Biden Moderates" as Nin put it. Joe Biden was in college at the time the letter was written and about 10 years away from public life, so what the hell was she talking about?

Also, the letter doesn't warn against moderates at all as much as he was warning inaction and labelling. I listened to Nina's tirade and then read "Letter..." AGAIN, and it left me wondering whether NINA had even read it with any comprehension. If at all.

[maryallen]

36. Over-reacting to Nina and ..

Under-reacting to Hillary. I'm amazed at the analysis provided on this page I did not share the opinion that Nina was loud and out of control. If anything, Hillary was louder and totally incorrect in her rendering of Martin L. King's narrative warning that their previous assessment of many Americans' views toward extending civil rights was handicapped by the "moderate" stance that too many in both parties were adopting. Some might call it cowardly. King's letter was written as the Vietnam war raged on and on. If I recall correctly, King was gradually changing some of his views, particularly concerning non-violence. It takes a remarkable person to accomplish what King did. Unfortunately, we don't seem to know how to recognize true heroes today and appear quite incapable of supporting those who demonstrate leadership.

[Raine]

41. Yes, after being told to just answer to Cuomo and not each other Hillary

was the one who interrupted Nina and kept doing it. Cuomo shouldn't have let that happen, seemed a set up to get Nina agitated.

[Todd79]

48. Neither of them

Neither of them came off well.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

44. How about "Hilary Rosen on Cuomo. WOW!!!" Because she was out of line.

That's some pretty serious white privilege Rosen just trotted out on Cuomo.

[MerryBlooms]

57. Rec.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

47. Somebody here might want to tell Rosen she doesn't need to apologize

Because she has apologized. As she should. Because she was wrong.

[Todd79]

49. Good

Good for her. She needed to. Both came off poorly, but she crossed a line.

[Don1]

50. Rosen lied

About what MLK Jr said. Nina was telling the truth.

Nina Turner is an innocent black woman.

Why all the hate in this thread?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

58. No kidding.

I didn't think I'd see this level of whitesplaining cheered on DU.

[The_Counsel]

71. Where Is the Lie?

MLK DIDN'T warn against "White moderates" or "Biden moderates" (which is what Turner actually said). He warned against inaction--specifically, waiting for the courts to sort out the whole civil rights issue. He was defending non-violent disobedience as a tactic. Rosen was merely pointing out where Turner blew it with her MLK reference. Is she lying because she's White or because you disagree and is trying to turn it into a race/gender issue?

The hell of it all was Turner was about 95% correct with her historical references. The "Biden moderates" thing was a big boo-boo. She also could have referenced another Roosevelt to make her point RE: corporate elites: TEDDY Roosevelt. In fact he may even be a better example than his cousin...

[FreepFryer]

51. KEEP SHOWING US WHO YOU ARE, ANTI-DEMOCRATS! (Nt)

[Cuthbert Allgood]

59. If by anti-democrats, you mean the black woman that whitesplained to by Rosen,

then I guess I'm anti-democrat.

Personally I would think that liberals would support the black woman in this. Hell, even Rosen apologized for that atrocity.

[FreepFryer]

61. That reply both presumes i am a Liberal and implies you are not. Thanks for the info. (Nt)

[NurseJackie]

72. Bye!

then I guess I'm anti-democrat.

Bye!

[LiberalFighter]

52. Imagine her as Sanders' running mate.

[The_Counsel]

54. I USED to Love Me Some Nina Turner....

Now? Not nearly so much.

The chick has gone straght loco, kids...!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

60. "Chick"? Yikes.

[LanternWaste]

62. The important thing is to point out perceived inequities wholly unrelated to the OP

In doing so, it allows Nina off the hook...

Nice work.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

66. This whole OP is about letting Rosen off the hook for whitesplaining.

Nice work that you jumped on it. With some sexism thrown in to book.

You do know that Rosen apologized because she realized she was wrong. But keep talking about that "chick" and how out of line she was.

[honest.abe]

55. The wheels are coming off.

[democrattotheend]

63. What did she say?