Warren told Maddow that some supporters' bad behavior is a particular problem w/Sanders's supporters

[highplainsdem]

She said she's had a "short" discussion of this with Sanders, wouldn't go into detail about what he said, said Maddow should ask him.

She just suggested that someone in the campaign should be assigned to deal with this sort of thing every day. That campaigns should keep trying creative solutions to this sort of problem.

[LaurenOlimina]

1. She is right

[TomCADem]

10. Bernie's Campaign Continues to Deny That His Supporters Are Any Different

Link to tweet

[LaurenOlimina]

11. She's not wrong either.

Since I switched from Warren To Bernie today, I've been told I'm helping elect Trump, called a whiner for linking to an article about sexism in the Atlantic, and told my posts are "bullshit" all right here at little ole DU. It was like a switch got flipped and every nasty thing was suddenly acceptable. It's either because I am supporting Bernie or not supporting Biden, but it hasn't really happened before except with Bloomberg supporters.

[TomCADem]

12. Why Bernie Sanders supporters are trolling Elizabeth Warren with snake emoji

I believe Elizabeth Warren over Bernie Sanders. The concerted trolling and threats coming from Bernie supporters is well documented. This also is not new. It is a carry over from 2016.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/15/21067331/warren-is-a-snake-hashtag-explained

In the wake of Tuesday night’s Democratic debate, one of Twitter’s trending hashtags was #WarrenIsASnake. Angry social media users have been tweeting the hashtag, along with its partner hashtag #NeverWarren, and flooding Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s replies with snake emojis.

The trend seems to have begun with some Sen. Bernie Sanders supporters, who were angry with Warren for maintaining that Sanders told her privately that he didn’t believe a woman could win the 2020 presidential election, even after Sanders denied saying any such thing. After a while, though, the hashtags continued trending not only because of anti-Warren Twitter users denouncing her, but also because Warren fans were using the hashtags to denounce Sanders and proclaim their support for Warren. (And possibly because of some bots, too. Twitter in 2020!)

But it’s notable that this ostensibly political argument is centered on the idea of Warren being a “snake” — because using the snake emoji to troll an opponent is not an idea that arose out of politics. It’s an idea that arose out of fandom. Specifically, it arose out of celebrity stan culture.

Which means that this political debate is looking less and less like a discussion about the electability of the candidates and more and more like stan trolling.

[LaurenOlimina]

15. Like I said, she is right. It's two replies up there.

Or is this just mansplaining?

[TomCADem]

19. Is Your "She" Referring to Joy Gray or Elizabeth Warren?

Because it seems like they are saying two different things.

[LaurenOlimina]

20. No, they are not. I watched the Interview with Rachel.

I agree with Warren. But her answer was nuanced. They agreed that Bernie denouncing these things was not working and went on to point out that some extraordinary measure was needed. Warren had a plan for that. All good.

Joy Gray is pointing out comments like Jason Johnson's, “I don’t care how many people from the island of misfit black girls you throw out there to defend you,” and similar attacks online that go unremarked. She is also not wrong either.

I've noticed the change in tone since I added Bernie as my preference. It's like people see his face and feel anything they say is justified because they need him to be a villain, which makes them virtuous.

[DonaldsRump]

2. I think some of the Bros are feeling the Burn....the Warren Burn!

Bernie Bros:

Some of you need to take a chill pill. You folks keep this up with my main sister Liz, you Bros deserve some Samuel L. Jackson talking to Honey Bunny in "Pulp Fiction." Not going to post it now, but the next time, it's coming up. SLJJ = all of us and Honey Bunny = the Bad Bernie Bros.

Liz doesn't need me, but I will fight for her to the hilt. She's impressed me beyond belief.

"Russia, if you're listening, you probably have no 'effin clue, do you, as to what I'm talking about? Have fun with your Facebook and Twitter manipulation. It ain't going work this time."

[William769]

3. Kick & recommended.

[Amaryllis]

4. She also said that candidates are responsible for what their people do. Not sure if she meant

staff or just supporters in general. Seems like it would be staff, although while candidates can't control all their supporters do, they can certainly set the tone. So maybe she did mean supporters also.

[Cha]

7. TY Elizabeth!

[squirecam]

8. The candidate certainly has control over both staff and surrogates.

Nt

[oasis]

5. Warren says she would insist that her supporters behave. Staff should

meet regularly to address those kind of issues, she added.

[Cha]

6. It was posted Elizabeth said this, too..

11. yes live right now, she said his supporters try to draw strength by dividing and attacking people

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=637420

Thanks, !

[Blue_true]

9. I don't see the Sanders campaign doing anything about this problem.

His top staff surrogates are constantly throwing bombs. So which one of them will police anything?

[betsuni]

13. K&R

[summer_in_TX]

14. What an amazing woman, a once in a generation candidate.

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Every time I hear her speak something in my heart leaps. I knew this day was inevitable probably even before Super Tuesday. But my husband and I both KNEW who was the best, most important candidate in the race and we proudly voted for Elizabeth Warren on Tuesday.

Great teachers (and its obvious to me that Elizabeth Warren is one) know that when you correct and guide children, teens, or adults into better behavior you help them become the best they can be. And that in turn benefits our whole society.

There are no libertarians among great teachers, it seems to me. Letting people say and do ugly things hurts those on the receiving end, sure. But it also hurts those on the giving end too. They become/are unlikable. Their personal relationships suffer and so do their employment opportunities.

Great teachers' aim is the greatest good for the most people, including most especially the young people in their orbit.

Thank you for teaching us all what the best of the best is like.

[rusty quoin]

16. Okay joe, could you just avoid saying dumb stuff? And oh yeah, I'm the bad guy.

Just explain how Joe pulls it through and I’m with you

[Vivienne235729]

17. Bernie was directly asked about it and all he did was deflect & made excuses.

[ramen]

18. I would welcome that. nt