This is the biggest question in my mind.. If candidate A who did not even speak

[Peacetrain]

in 4 of the states that he won over candidate B... then how in the world can we convince the independents and moderates we are so desperately going to need in order to win the Presidency, Senate, House,, as well as all the down ballot state houses.. that candidate B can defeat Trump.

People do not throw their vote away if they think the candidate cannot win. They stay home.


This is just a reality

[wishstar]

1. Add to that the favorability rating of candidate A who polled from 75 to 85 favorability rating

in exit polls vs. candidate B whose unfavorablility in exit polling was close to 50% among Democratic voters.

[Butterflylady]

2. Candidate B. and his supporters

Do not like the reality of the world we live in. I myself would like a different world same as them. However, its not going to change the way their going about it. Change takes time. It can't be done overnight like Bernie insinuates.

[Awsi Dooger]

3. When I take the ideology tests I always score as very liberal

But I never support the very liberal candidates. Maybe that's partially because I've lived in Nevada and Florida where I know that type will be rejected especially during midterm years. Mostly it's because I wager every day and have since 1984. Bettors can't kid themselves with flowery imagery of a world that doesn't exist. Otherwise I'd be wagering on my favorite teams every game and to win the championship every season.

In an ideal country yes I'd vote for a Sanders or Warren with 65+ senators and 350+ House members awaiting to rubber stamp anything they proclaim. I have no idea how anybody can support that type under current conditions.

If Trump still had 35-38% approval like late 2017 and with no logical uptick in that number, then we could gamble with a more liberal nominee. However, if we managed to get that person elected then we'd have to accept that the following midterm would be an all-time bloodbath, one that would make 1994, 2010 or 2014 look like a split decision.