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Why is Warren delaying giving an endorsement? I think it's because maybe she wants to humiliate Bernie. Biden doesn't need her endorsement (although it would be nice to have) but Bernie does need her endorsement. Based on their political and policy viewpoints, it would seem "natural" for Warren to endorse Bernie, but there's a reason she hasn't. Why? Is she just going to let them stew over it and "suffer" and wonder? After everything that came before, is there a small part of her that's enjoying watching them "squirm" and grovel. Is she not at all shocked at the outright demands and sense of entitlement?
Well maybe I'm just projecting, but I'd certainly withhold the endorsement until the point that giving the endorsement to Biden would cause the most anguish to the Bernie Sanders campaign. (For the reason shown below.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)It's a strange phenomenon, but some of her backers hate Bernie and some of her backers hate "the establishment." She does not want to offend either side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)There's really no reason for her to endorse Sanders for a week, then switch her endorsement to Biden.
I think the interactions likely had something to do with the delay, but now, it's just logical to wait.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rorey
(8,445 posts)The approximate time that Sanders waited after Hillary clinched the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brush
(53,764 posts)And then there are those vile supporters of his.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Does she want to smash Bernie? My guess is, yes. Especially based on her body language and look in her eye when they asked her, in front of her house, who she would endorse. And yes, being blown off like that (in your video) was one of the most telling events of the entire campaign in my opinion. I am bewildered that any woman could see that and still support Sanders.
Her answer of, Let's think on that, and I'll say something when the timing is right, coupled with her statement that she will definitely have something to say about the sexist bullshit that's gone on, but later, tells me she's biting her tongue. She didn't get to be the best law professor at Harvard by saying or doing things without a lot of consideration and careful thought.
And she would still be my first choice, if that was an option
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Only about 10%, if that, are moving towards Sanders, the vast majority have moved to Biden. 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing (or even worse, complete subservience)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)It won't impact Biden's momentum, and it won't affect Sanders' decision to remain in the contest. Why bother?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I think she's just taking her time before she endorses one of two people who are both problematic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)"Humiliate" is what the poster wants to do, not Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,501 posts)In that case, an endorsement of Sanders would either draw things out when its better for Biden to be seen as the defacto nominee. That is not yet true, because 60 plus percent of the delegates will come from yet to be held contests. If things go as predicted, we will reach a point where Sanders can not mathematically get ahead of Biden.
The other thing is that I think Warren's anger when Bernie essentially called her a list on stage was real and very personal. I suspect Bernie did not consider that his statement that allowed no possibility for nuance or ambiguity was implicitly calling her a liar. That added to the unwarranted attacks by Sanders surrogates and supporters which he only weakly spoke against might mean that unlike Biden, whose character she praised, on a personal level she is not impressed by Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Presidential choice. Difference between integrity and not. Warren didn't endorse in 2016 though Sanders and supporters wanted it. Not going to do it now. She is all on board with Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)And he dodged again on Maddow the other night. Rachel had asked him something on the line of had he talked to Warren about her endorsement. He said it was a private conversation and he didn't want to go into it just then. Personally, I think she politely told him to to fuck himself. Calling her a liar was a big mistake.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)That's likely to be an important position, especially for Sanders. Their choice might tip her one way or the other.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pinkstarburst
(1,327 posts)why would she endorse one of them until they are officially the nominee?
She will likely run again in 4 years as a progressive candidate. Endorsing Biden over Sanders will hurt her with progressives. The only reason to do this is if Biden chooses her as HIS vice president.
Sanders and his people have not exactly been kind to Warren during the primary. No one would fault her for not endorsing him.
At this point, until there is a nominee, Warren is wise to stay neutral.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)And shell be a major asset to him in helping to avoid 2016-levels of destruction on the left. If she endorsed any earlier, it would be counterproductive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Todd79
(166 posts)Whats the point? There are no signs that Biden is only planning to serve one term. Even if he were to announce that he would not serve a second term, a VP Kamala Harris (the most popular pick it seems) would easily be the successor if the conditions improve under a Biden administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Todd79
(166 posts)One of my grandfathers played golf almost every day until he was 95 years old and lived to be 101. My other grandfather went fishing every day on his own fishing boat until he was 93. He lived until he caught pneumonia at age 99.
It all depends on your genes. I would say that the Presidency ages you, but Biden has spent years in that high pressure environment and it hasnt slowed him down physically (I dont think it has mentally though obviously critics say otherwise).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,783 posts).... it's because she was the only unifier candidate. Maybe she doesn't want to throw out the idea of a 3rd path. I hope she doesn't, myself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden