The Sunrise Movement credibility. Are they hurting the cause?

[showblue22]

Who are they? Where do t hey get their money and why would they give Joe Biden an F- on Climate? These falsehoods will only hurt the cause. They can't possibly care about climate change. They look like a phony group. Does anyone have info on them?

[lapfog_1]

1. judge for yourself

Sunrise Movement is an American youth-led political movement coordinated by Sunrise, a 501(c)(4) political action organization that advocates political action on climate change. When first incorporated in 2017, the group's goal was to elect proponents of renewable energy in the 2018 midterm elections,[2] first in the Democratic primaries and then in the general election. After the election, the organization has been focused on gaining a consensus within the Democratic Party in support of an environmental program known as the Green New Deal.

Together with Justice Democrats and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the group organized a sit-in in the office of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, which brought Sunrise its first significant press coverage.[3] Sunrise organized a similar event in February 2019, bringing a group of young people to confront Senator Dianne Feinstein in her office.

[showblue22]

3. Why lie?

What do they have to gain by lying so much? Do they not realize they're hurting the cause?

[Demsrule86]

24. That has copied and pasted forever...yes they hurt their movement. Any candidate with their backing

doesn't get my vote in a Primary..they only go after Democrats never Republicans who are blocking Climate legislation...I despise them and have since they posted the doctored video from when they had one of their little stupid bullshit 'rallies' at Dianne Feinstein's office...they are liars...troublemakers who only help Trump and the GOP.

[still_one]

27. Yup, they are a PAC

[RandySF]

2. Nobody knows who they are outside of left wing circles.

[LizBeth]

4. Sara Blazevic and Varshini Prakash

It is looking like a connection to Russia but I do not do well getting into the research of it. I am hearing the "wrong kind of green deal". If anyone wants this info. I am seeing these two as the people getting it going. I could be wrong.

[showblue22]

5. Thank you.

Someone needs to dig into them more.

[Cha]

6. AFAIC rhey are.

[Hav]

7. Their cause seems to be rather a pretense to attack Dems

and cause resentment against them. If they'd care about their cause, they'd try to get their message out and work together with the Dems to achieve what they want. If they believe they can achieve their goals by hurting Dems and getting Repubs elected, then they are either incredibly stupid or simply not serious about their cause.

[Recursion]

8. Their activities seem limited to unseating Democratic incumbents in purple districts

It's an odd flex that that is so popular among "activists" right now.

[Paka]

9. They are a wonderful group of young activists,

that are concerned with and focus on climate change. No Russian conections, no other concerns than their own future on the planet.

Obviously, because they support Senator Sanders, they must be suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_Movement

[hlthe2b]

10. When any group diverts the attention FROM their cause to 24/7 general attacks on prominent Dems

I think they are worthy of scrutiny. That isn't bias. That is being smart, given the interjection of Russian (and RW) issues into our elections. If the leaders of this group MIGHT be merely dupes of a wider malign effort, it warrants a closer look.

[Demsrule86]

11. They hate Democrats and apparently support the GOP as well as Sanders.

They never go after the GOP....great polluters. Thus, they are frauds and liars. Time for some of their funding to pay for things like bail. I would like to know who pays them.

[George II]

12. They've got the same underlying group of people as " Brand New Congress", Justice Democrats, et.al.

Saikat Chakrabarti, Kyle Kuluski, even AOC have their fingers in the operation. They've done little except organize sit- ins.

What's "wonderful" about them?

[Drunken Irishman]

14. Yes. Any group who gives Biden an F- on climate change should be deemed suspect.

Any reasonable person would question them.

[zackymilly]

18. Will they remember to vote? nt

[LanternWaste]

19. You realize their attacks on Democrats breeds suspicion, yes?

I get that you want them to fit into the martyred, ignoble, righteous-fist-in-the-air narrative, but realize you do that for your comfort only.

We can, and do plainly see their own actions brought this reaction.

[nolabear]

21. I read it. I don't understand what they do other than protesting.

I don’t begrudge their support for the Green New Deal or Sanders but it’s didn’t explain why they’re targeting Democrats, ignoring the GOP and disrupting specifically Joe’s rallies.

They were horrific last night. They didn’t even respond to Symone Sanders’ repeated offer to talk to them, even after she got knocked to the floor in the midst of their disruption. They were treated with respect and they acted like jerks.

They are doing their cause great harm and no good that I can see. There has to be something beyond outrage.

[Demsrule86]

25. Like the badly named 'Green' party they hurt the climate cause as these idiots help elect

Republicans.

[HarlanPepper]

26. They're a bunch of cranks.

[NurseJackie]

13. Yes... it's bad form to protest and disrupt one's allies.

Yes... it's bad form to protest and disrupt one's allies. In the same way that it's bad form and ill-advised for a candidate to denigrate and demean and insult the party that he (or she) may want to someday lead... it makes zero sense for groups like this to protest and be disruptive at the event of their allies.

This is the kind of thing that would be far more appropriate if it took place at a GOP event.

I'm afraid that their naivete and lack of sophistication come shining through when they attack their friends rather than enemies. It shows an erratic "plan" and true lack of focus and zero discipline. They just want to lash out at someone... anyone.. even if mean alienating friends and others who are actually receptive and sympathetic and are already working to help the cause.

It's just foolish.

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Sunshine Movement logo and Justice Democrats logo... Coincidence?

[comradebillyboy]

32. Neither The Sunrise Movement nor Justice Democrats are allies of

the Democratic Party.

[mcar]

15. Any group like that who protests Democrats,

instead of Republicans, has no credibility.

[Blue_Tires]

16. They're just a Sanders front group

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zero credibility and in a few months they'll vanish into thin air.

Link to tweet

[loyalsister]

17. Or more importantly

have entitled elders ruined the air and left them with a world where in the midwestern states will be dealing with Florida refugees? And ANYONE who has voted for oil subsidies deserves an F.

[showblue22]

20. Biden has real legislation accomplished in this area. Bernie has talk. Nothing more.

[dalton99a]

22. It's another bullshit pretentious sounding subunit of the Bernie machine

whose sole purpose of existence is to attack Democrats

[frazzled]

23. An awful lot of hoo ha for a resolution that will change nothing

If the Green New Deal is really the reason behind their existence, the question is: why all the dramatics?

This is not a piece of legislation. It's merely a "resolution," meaning it's a statement of principles, a wish list, a position paper. It has no force of law, and so nothing will change even if every member of Congress votes for it. Individual climate change regulations will need to be drafted, go through committee, and be voted on.

It's like Miss America standing at the microphone saying "I want world peace." Nice, but it's fairly meaningless. So why are they being so aggressive? There must be another reason.

[showblue22]

28. They must be a front to something else.

One day we will know what that is. They may be where Roger Stone is now when we finally do learn.

[dalton99a]

30. +1. Who is financing them?

[Midnight Writer]

33. Exactly. I guarantee there is a Sugar Daddy behind them.

They are not financed by five buck grass roots donations.

[oasis]

31. Annoying bunch of covert anti-Dem Party clowns. nt