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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:51 PM Mar 2020

And now the threats come ...

Already seeing the sore losers whining about how much we need them and making subtle threats.

I have three things to say to that:

1 - If someone's going to threaten you with sitting it out, then let them do it. I didn't respond to that kind of blackmail in 2016 and I certainly won't now. All the friends that told me, “the Berners will sit this out while the other candidates supporters won't so you're forced to vote for Bernie” heard me reply that I'd vote for Trump before I'd ever be blackmailed and, since I would never vote for Trump, the blackmail has even less of a chance of convincing me.

2 - If certain Berners don't care enough about children in cages and the rights of marginalized people being eroded by the horrible people Trump is stacking the judicial branch with that they'd put their cult-like obsession with Bernie aside to do the right thing, no amount of smiles or policy tweaks or VP picks from Joe Biden is going to make any difference at all.

3 - So few of these young Bernie voters even turned out to vote. These people that only participate in the electoral process when it's Bernie weren't ever going to be ours to begin with and if anything is going to motivate them to do the right thing, well, see item #2.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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And now the threats come ... (Original Post) nolawarlock Mar 2020 OP
Not helpful IMO nt SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #1
The threats or my reply? nolawarlock Mar 2020 #3
I get what you are SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #5
Venting is one thing. nolawarlock Mar 2020 #10
Leave it alone. DUers vote for the Democratic nominee. Keep Twitter at Twitter. hedda_foil Mar 2020 #11
I,would say the OP has a right to vent as well. boston bean Mar 2020 #17
When someone is venting.. SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #12
And again ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #13
Lol SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #16
Hey I'm not *trying* to a bitch ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #18
We got our fill of the "venting" years ago. We have to beat trump NOW, venting be damned. George II Mar 2020 #14
Let people vent. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #2
yes handmade34 Mar 2020 #6
I just tell people like that Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #4
nothing wrong with OP statement dweller Mar 2020 #7
Perhaps a little less gloating Bettie Mar 2020 #8
Decency? Gloating? nolawarlock Mar 2020 #9
It'll be fine Todd79 Mar 2020 #15
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
3. The threats or my reply?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

What do you suggest we do? Let them overrun us with that crap?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
5. I get what you are
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

Trying to say, the timing is off IMO. We should allow some venting now. He was and is their favorite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
10. Venting is one thing.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:09 PM
Mar 2020

Threats are another and these threats have been happening the entire time. This isn't something that just happened today.

The bottom line is this: If someone isn't going to do the right thing because there are children in cages and rights being eroded on the daily, they aren't going to do it because we give them a hug. To think otherwise is very naive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
11. Leave it alone. DUers vote for the Democratic nominee. Keep Twitter at Twitter.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
17. I,would say the OP has a right to vent as well.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
12. When someone is venting..
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:18 PM
Mar 2020

They may say something they don’t mean. Do I believe there will be some who won’t vote at all? Likely, especially considering what happened last time. The General Election is still a little less than 8 months away. That is plenty of time for ALL voters to be reminded over and over the stark contrast between Biden and Trump. I believe the number that will sit out this time because Bernie didn’t win will be very small. The stakes are way too high.

I just think the timing of this OP, is a little off. They are grieving their candidate not doing so well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
13. And again ...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

this is a message I've seen for weeks. This isn't something from today.

And quite honestly, I don't care what you think of my timing. To quote Nene Leakes, I said what I said.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
16. Lol
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:24 PM
Mar 2020

Now you made me laugh, in a good way. “I said what I said”. Me too I’m just not ready to throw flames. Now if it continues in the next few months, I will be right there with you all the way

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
18. Hey I'm not *trying* to a bitch ...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:23 PM
Mar 2020

… but this has been ridiculous. These people should have learned in 2016 what they're "sit it out" means. This isn't 2016. We actually have the hindsight of nearly four years of this monster of a president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. We got our fill of the "venting" years ago. We have to beat trump NOW, venting be damned.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
2. Let people vent.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

It’s hard when your favorite loses. I’ve been there a few times, it’s not fun. People will go through the stages of grief and most will come around and support the nominee. Hurt feelings need time to heal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
6. yes
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie's supporters have strong passion that I appreciate and we do need them... the dreams don't die and they need to know that all the ideas they are passionate about are the same things we want...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
4. I just tell people like that
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

"I've never made a vote based on a threat".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dweller

(23,628 posts)
7. nothing wrong with OP statement
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

this is DU

it's our voice to share

✌🏼

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bettie

(16,090 posts)
8. Perhaps a little less gloating
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:05 PM
Mar 2020

would help. Or a bit of human decency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
9. Decency? Gloating?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:08 PM
Mar 2020

There's nothing gloating or indecent about my post. I've already seen threats on another thread here that I replied to and they are coming fast and furious on social media. None of us owes anybody a thing. If the Bernie or Busters don't care enough about kids in cages to do the right thing, do you really think some warm and friendly smiles from you are gonna help? I don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Todd79

(166 posts)
15. It'll be fine
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:20 PM
Mar 2020

If things don’t turn upside down or he actually did start to show signs of age, it will be fine. Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary (note: I didn’t say better). Any losses in the Bernie category probably didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 anyway. Biden will be much stronger among “the poor and uneducated” that Trump loves so much. By the time she was the nominee, the anti-Hillary moderates didn’t want to vote for her. Throw in Comey and Benghazi and she was fatally wounded on Election Day. A large part of the GOP will vote for Trump no matter what, but there won’t be the pure hatred driving them to the polls that there was 4 years ago when they were faced with the prospect of the greatest villian (to the GOP) in modern political history. It sucked because she would’ve made a great president and we would’ve avoided the catastrophic Trump WH, but they won’t be able to drive up the hatred for Biden that way and the Hunter bullshit won’t carry weight the way that Benghazi pizzagate theories did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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