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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:41 PM Mar 2020

Keeping my Pledge: Losing Michigan, Sanders should drop Out.

Last week, I stated that who ever lost the Michigan Primary should drop out since winning the industrial Mid-West was vital to defeating Trump.

It is clear tonight that Joe Biden will win Michigan and hence is our best bet to win back those Blue Wall states that Trump grabbed in 2016. This is a key step to victory in the General Election.


I pledged last week that I would support the winner of Michigan going forward and ask the loser to drop out of the primary race.

So, it's time for Bernie Sanders to drop out of the race and allow the party to coalesce behind our future nominee, Joe Biden, as soon as possible.

Congratulations to all the long time Biden supporters.

Along with you, I am wishing Joe the best and will be looking forward to him being our next President.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Keeping my Pledge: Losing Michigan, Sanders should drop Out. (Original Post) bluewater Mar 2020 OP
i agree that would be the optimal scenario right now. barbtries Mar 2020 #1
He may surprise us. llmart Mar 2020 #2
I suspect he will be. Warren too. TDale313 Mar 2020 #5
I sure hope so. llmart Mar 2020 #8
yes. I hope he does. barbtries Mar 2020 #18
I'm truly proud of Michigan today. llmart Mar 2020 #30
Sanders flew home to Vermont, will not speak tonight TDale313 Mar 2020 #3
Showing a hard united front against trump would be the right thing to do. MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #10
Especially if James48 Mar 2020 #4
Hehe Zeus69 Mar 2020 #6
I honestly don't think Bernie Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #9
I hope Biden finds a role for him, but doubtful it'll be VP TDale313 Mar 2020 #12
I don't think it would be the VP spot on the ticket, two NE old white guys... MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #14
Only 2 problems here Lordyamika Mar 2020 #25
Sanders would never accept the VP position. He has far more power in the Senate. ehrnst Mar 2020 #29
You are very gracious PatSeg Mar 2020 #7
Thank you bluewater Mar 2020 #13
We have some extraordinary Democrats PatSeg Mar 2020 #21
+1 grantcart Mar 2020 #22
Props for keeping your word squirecam Mar 2020 #11
I will wait for Sanders to make that decision still_one Mar 2020 #15
Hats off to you. I know what an ardent supporter you've been. femmedem Mar 2020 #16
You're very kind bluewater Mar 2020 #17
I am ok with Sanders deciding that. Blue_true Mar 2020 #19
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2020 #20
Welcome to the Biden Bunch, bluewater! calimary Mar 2020 #23
Welcome aboard! herding cats Mar 2020 #24
Thank you so much, bluewater. I knew you had it in you. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #26
Thank you for this Bluewater...you are a class act. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #27
Should but won't. A huge clue to Sanders' ideology and intent is his claim Hortensis Mar 2020 #28
 

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
1. i agree that would be the optimal scenario right now.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie could be really instrumental in gathering support for Biden. I don't see him doing so though I hope I'm selling him short by saying that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

llmart

(15,532 posts)
2. He may surprise us.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:46 PM
Mar 2020

He must know there's no way forward for him and maybe he cares a bit about his legacy.

He could actually be a huge force behind the Dems walloping Trump in November if he chooses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. I suspect he will be. Warren too.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020

I think essentially the primaries wrapped up tonight.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

llmart

(15,532 posts)
8. I sure hope so.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020

I'm not worried about Warren. She's a class act. It's Bernie I'm unsure of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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barbtries

(28,769 posts)
18. yes. I hope he does.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:20 PM
Mar 2020

we're facing an existential threat to the existence of democracy in the USA. I hope he does this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

llmart

(15,532 posts)
30. I'm truly proud of Michigan today.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:53 AM
Mar 2020

The sheer numbers of people who got out and voted, who registered yesterday, who stood in line long after the polls closed, who came together for Biden - I'm full of gratitude for them. In 2018 we showed what a blue wave could do. We elected Dems across the board including in the important positions of Attorney General, Governor, Secretary of State - all women. That is how it's done. I hope we carry it through to November and there are no GOP shenanigans that we can't overcome.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. Sanders flew home to Vermont, will not speak tonight
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:48 PM
Mar 2020

And it’s being rumored he will drop out tomorrow. Essentially, Biden’s the presumptive nominee at this point. Voting Blue. Trump has to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MerryBlooms

(11,757 posts)
10. Showing a hard united front against trump would be the right thing to do.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:53 PM
Mar 2020

All our candidates putting their voices and resources into attacking trump and republicans. Campaigning for down-ticket Dems... So much needs to be done. If we end the primary early, we can concentrate our efforts and deliver a Blue Tsunami!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

James48

(4,427 posts)
4. Especially if
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:48 PM
Mar 2020

Biden chooses Bernie for VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,909 posts)
9. I honestly don't think Bernie
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mar 2020

would accept an offer of VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
12. I hope Biden finds a role for him, but doubtful it'll be VP
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

A pushing 80 white male president is unlikely to pick another pushing 80 white male VP. I doubt he’ll pick Warren (my primary preference) either. Guessing someone younger, probably a woman, maybe a POC. May be totally wrong, but don’t think so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MerryBlooms

(11,757 posts)
14. I don't think it would be the VP spot on the ticket, two NE old white guys...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

But, Bernie would be a wonderful asset to any administration. Head of HHS for starters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lordyamika

(4 posts)
25. Only 2 problems here
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:06 AM
Mar 2020

It opens a Senate seat which is filled by a special election in Vermont a state we usaly win well quite handily but 1 problem could be Phil Scoot the popular republican govonor of Vermont could run . And then there's the fact theree bolth old white guys

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
29. Sanders would never accept the VP position. He has far more power in the Senate.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:49 AM
Mar 2020

I do think he's itching to be asked, though, so he could turn it down and tell everyone he did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
7. You are very gracious
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020

This has been an exhausting primary. Hopefully, we can all finally unite to beat Donald Trump!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
13. Thank you
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

It's been a real battle of ideas, but the voters are making their choice quite clear.

As a progressive, Warren and Sanders were my 1st and 2nd choices, but all the candidates are vastly superior to Trump.

It's time to unite the party behind our next nominee and to stop the carping and any sniping from this point on.








If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
21. We have some extraordinary Democrats
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:53 PM
Mar 2020

When I think of the line up republican candidates in the last few primaries, it was pathetic. We should be very proud.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
11. Props for keeping your word
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,061 posts)
15. I will wait for Sanders to make that decision
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmedem

(8,196 posts)
16. Hats off to you. I know what an ardent supporter you've been.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mar 2020

It isn't easy when it becomes clear your candidate can't win. I was there myself with Buttigieg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
17. You're very kind
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

Warren dropping out, even though towards the end it seemed inevitable, was very hard.

But as that old political concession speech goes:

"The voters have spoken. Damn them."


It's time for all of us as Democrats to unite behind our next nominee, and that's going to be Joe Biden.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I am ok with Sanders deciding that.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:38 PM
Mar 2020

With the uncertainty of COVID-19 and it having been present at a large gathering, the big rallies that Senator Sanders use as the cornerstone of his campaign are just hazardous.

Let Trump have rallies if he wants to, I just hope MAGATS are at least wise enough to stay away from such a petri-dish of infection.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calimary

(81,110 posts)
23. Welcome to the Biden Bunch, bluewater!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:12 AM
Mar 2020

Mighty glad to have your support. It’ll make a difference!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
24. Welcome aboard!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:49 AM
Mar 2020

We have plenty of room in our boat.

On a personal level, I'm more than fine with Sanders giving it until after next Tuesday. His supporters need to come to grips and that's never easy. They're dealing with some pretty hard blows tonight. Let's respect them while our candidates pivot.

I'm not calling for him to rub salt in their already raw wounds. That's just cruel, and it's not who I want to be as a fellow human and Democrat. I've been in their shoes before and I know how painful it can be. Let's give some respect and a tiny bit of time to them, ok? No harm will be had by doing either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
26. Thank you so much, bluewater. I knew you had it in you. nt
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:32 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
27. Thank you for this Bluewater...you are a class act.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:38 AM
Mar 2020


PS...you and a few others convinced me that Warren should be my second choice. I would happily have voted for her in the General. Stay healthy.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Should but won't. A huge clue to Sanders' ideology and intent is his claim
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:53 AM
Mar 2020

at virtually every appearance at least once that Democrats are really mostly the same as Republicans. We are not an alternative to them.

America hasn't given proper attention to what kind of person could believe such a thing, but it's looking as if the people may have become concerned anyway.

As for what's ahead, Sanders 2016 role, abetted by Russia, helped turn the nation over to Republicans who promised to eliminate liberalism and progressivism from government. He doesn't say he believes Republican destruction of our democracy would create a path to power for him, but many of his followers believe and have said just that.

So, on to the convention. because I just realized that Sanders delegates, selected once again for aggression, may not have a convention hall to act out in. They were likely already realizing how hard it will be for small numbers to disrupt, and hopefully that real possibility is an additional sad for them tonight.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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