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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:18 PM Mar 2020

Does Bernie still honestly believe he will be our party's nominee?

Does Bernie still honestly believe he will be our party's nominee?

It's a fair question. People deserve to know if the person who hopes to lead our party and our nation (and the world) is capable of looking at the data and accepting the reality of the political landscape.


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Yes. (He honestly believes that he WILL BE the nominee.)
0 (0%)
Maybe. (He believes there's still a POSSIBILITY he'll be the nominee.)
2 (12%)
No. (He knows better. He does not expect to be the nominee.)
15 (88%)
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
1. Bernie said he wanted Joe
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:23 PM
Mar 2020

To answer his questions. Maybe Joe will ask him a few.

Do you think Joe will tell Bernie he is,uh,er?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
2. Sounds like he wants Biden to adopt leftist policies
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:27 PM
Mar 2020

Not sure this is the time for a revolution, maybe it will happen anyway. But in the meantime I'm ridin with Biden because I'd like a return to sanity first.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
3. The Numbers aren't there for Bernie to be making demands
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stevegberg

(80 posts)
12. Unfortunately Sanders has allowed himself to become beholden to the "Bernie or Bust" cultists
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

Sad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. He knows better. He ain't stupid. I think he feels he owes his supporters one more debate and
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020

day of primaries. After that he is out and the vast majority of his supporters will understand that, while he has made many of his policies popular and possible in the long run, he has been defeated by the voters. That's how democracy works. His ideas will live on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
5. I mean this in a sincere, non-snarky way
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020

What makes Bernie think that his ideas are popular when he has been defeated by the voters? Does he think it's all voter suppression/mainstream media and not him?

I really don't understand this and I've read it so many times on line, why does Bernie think that anyone outside of his supporters are supportive of his ideas?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pampango

(24,692 posts)
6. National polls show the popularity of his ideas, but not of him. n/t
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
8. I guess I am in that crowd
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

I like the ideas he has but I don't think they are realistic and I think there are other things that are bigger issues that I think are realistic.

Such as free college. I like the idea, I don't love it for a lot of reasons (I think the quality will plummet) and I think it's not nearly as big of an issue as gun control. So while I like his stance, sorta, on college, I hate his position with guns.

But I do appreciate the answer, thank you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. That's where I stand.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

His platform is crippled by the fact that he’s the messenger and by the toxic coterie with which he surrounds himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
7. re: "What makes Bernie think that his ideas are popular when he has been defeated by the voters?"
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

Because exit polls show that his ideas are popular with a majority, even though many of them are votingf for Biden. Implying that there are a bunch of Biden voters who prefer Bernie's positions, but are voting for Biden for other reasons (e.g. believing he has a better chance against Trump, believing he'd be a stronger leader, etc.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
9. It's also possible to believe #3 and #2 at the same time.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:02 PM
Mar 2020

That is, it is also possible that (#3) he does not expect to be the nominee, but also that he believes (#2) there is still some small possibility.

And it is always possible that there is some unforeseen/unforeseeable implosion of the Biden campaign. So you can't rule it out. But realistically, he has very little chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stevegberg

(80 posts)
10. No, and he should drop out for everyone's sake
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020

His supporters are not going to benefit from any more false hope. Not to mention the damage his campaign is doing to Democratic unity against 45.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
11. I'm not sure how to answer this one.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
14. He has to Bern the village in order to save it. nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. I've heard that description/comparison/analogy before. It seems quite apt.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. I believe you're correct.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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