The real difference between Vice President Biden and Senator Sanders in one Tweet

[Julian English]

Biden stood in front of a row of American flags when he addressed the country. B*rnie stood in front of a row of B*rnie signs.

Link to tweet

ETA: I can't understand why women just don't like Sanders. I thought Democratic women absolutely adored male politicians who love to plaster their name on everyting.

[TwilightZone]

1. In fairness, there is one flag.

That being said, this wasn't really the time for a campaign plug. That's his staff's fault.

[guillaumeb]

2. Many Trump supporters fly a different flag.

And apparently live in a parallel universe.

[gristy]

4. My thought too.

His staff should have been all over that and they should have been pulled down.

[elleng]

8. Right, in difficult circumstances;

obviously not well planned.

[showblue22]

38. He hired that staff. nt

[sheshe2]

3. + a Billion!

[NurseJackie]

5. Joe Biden looked more presidential. Confident and self-assured.

Bernie looked a bit exhausted. He sounded hoarse. He was leaning on the podium. Not a good look.

Joe Biden inspires confidence and courage.

[StarfishSaver]

18. Biden looked like a president. Sanders looked like a candidate

[elleng]

6. That's silly.

[NurseJackie]

12. It's embarrassing... humiliating... that's what it is.

The people he's hired are making bad decisions, and that reflects badly on Bernie. Of course he didn't set the stage... he just showed up at the last minute to read some prepared remarks. --- But if the people he chooses to trust with such things are making these godawful decisions... that reflects poorly on his judgement as well.

I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is, Elleng. It's not silly. It's just sad.

[Cha]

15. What's "silly"?

[elleng]

17. to suggest these trivial views summarize

the differences between the 2.

[Cha]

20. I don't think it's "silly" at all. Biden is inerested

in helping with the coronavirus.. and BS is still campaigning for god's sake.

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[Julian English]

23. I disagree. Biden stands for the nation & party. Sanders stand foremost for the cult of Bernie.

Sanders could have built a coalition, assuming he had the skills to do so. However he has shown little evidence of having the skills to build a coalition and less evidence of being willing to work to gain the skills. He is a nag, not coalition builder. He acts if has perfect ideas--but he lacks any idea on how to makes "his" ideas reality.

Likewise, he could have joined the party and tried to move in in his direction. He, again, chose not to do so. (Again, he has shown little evidence of having either the skllls to change the party or the desire.)

What Sanders has shown a skill at and a desire to keep his name in the press. This photo illustrates that aspect of his shallow approach to politics.

[pampango]

69. Agreed. Republicans are quite good at waving the flag. And politicians love to stand in front of it.

There are many, many differences between Biden and Sanders. How many flags they stand in front of is not one of them.

[Cha]

70. Biden made a reality based address to the Nation on

the coronavirus crisis and yes there were flags. BS was campaigning.

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[pampango]

79. I agree about the quality of his address. To focus on flags is misguided. n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

7. The press is treating Biden as if he is already president

When Trump failed to quell our fears about coronavirus, the press turned to Biden act presidential.

[Aquaria]

14. And he delivered.

The moment sometimes finds the man.

[redstateblues]

9. Joe looked Presidential, Bernie looked like

a guy running a campaign

[NurseJackie]

10. Priorities, eh?

Not my priorities. He's out of sync with me.

[StarfishSaver]

19. I said almost the same thing before I read your post

GMTA

[George II]

11. Biden was upright, erect, and forceful. Sander was slumped over the podium, leaning on it.

[NurseJackie]

13. One looked confident and assured... the other looked tired and worn-out.

[Cha]

16. With campaign signs in the Background.. Biden

said in his speech that the "corona virus had no political affiliation"

[MineralMan]

21. This! Thank you!

[Cha]

22. You're Welcome, MM.. Thank you!

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[R B Garr]

50. The way Sanders slumps on the podium

is very distracting. It’s gotten worse.

[BigmanPigman]

24. Exactly as I was reading this post and looking at the photos

Chris Hayes showed them on TV. On a larger screen the contrast is even more clear.

[Cha]

25. Wow.. that doesn't seem like

something Chris Hayes would be contrasting.

Thanks BP

[BigmanPigman]

26. No, Chris was just showing them and their speeches.

I, as a very visual person, could see the clear contrast of the stage/setting/atmosphere. Bernie's looked less professional and "presidential", he looked more amateur overall.

[Cha]

27. Aha.. Thank you.. wonder if Hayes got

it at all?

[BigmanPigman]

28. Doubt it, at least not yet.

[zackymilly]

29. Bernie staff: Hey! Who left that flag up! It's blocking some of the Bernie signs! n/t

[SCantiGOP]

30. This is ridiculous

Why does the guy put an asterisk in Sanders first name?
Now we’re supporting candidates because they put flags on the stage? Does that give Trump an edge because he comes out and dry humps the flag?

[mountain grammy]

42. Thank you

This is a troll post. Get real people.

[sammythecat]

47. I'll go ahead and call it

a worthless bullshit post.

[mountain grammy]

54. Yep

[redqueen]

52. Thank you.

The OP is the kind of criticism I expect from rabid right wingers. Sad to see it here.

[Julian English]

62. I'm left of BS but he was never viable. It's time for him to work for unity & not for BS.

BS is reliving 2016. He's doing no one any good at this point but BS.

Time for BS to try to put the nation first.

[Cha]

71. Forget the flags.. Biden addressed the Nation

on the coronavirus.. BS was campaigning.

And, forget fucking trump.. he has nothing to do with Biden's calming talk to our Country.

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[William769]

31. Kick & recommended.

[C Moon]

32. It was for those who didn't know who he was.

[dalton99a]

33. +1

[Snoopy 7]

34. Flags really

The real difference between both candidates is Bernie has been a progressive and pushed his progressive views since he’s been in office. Biden has been trying to pretend to be progressive since he started running for president. Biden votes for war while Bernie votes against war, Biden votes to give billionaires tax cuts while Bernie votes against it, I could keep going...

[showblue22]

39. When did Biden vote to give billionaires tax cuts?

Put up or shut up. Also, Bernie has voted for war. Biden was real progressive legislation accomplished. Bernie does not. Climate Change, Joe was the first in history to pass climate legislation in 1986. Gun control, Violence against women act, building support for Obama care in congress, and so much more.

[LakeArenal]

41. Yes please keep going.

[Cha]

74. Biden is Winning.. The Voters have

rejected BS' agenda.

Biden gave an address to the nation on what we can do to help with the coronavirus... BS was campaigning with his posters.

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[rickyhall]

35. So it's not the message but the presentation.

[Happy Hoosier]

78. Presentation can matter.

Do you think how Trump chooses to present his “message” doesn’t matter? Biden looked and sounded like a President should in a time of crisis. Tha kind of presentation calms and instills confidence.

[Rabrrrrrr]

36. I'm supporting Biden, but I think that's a pretty irrelevant thing to point out.

Sheesh.

[Gore1FL]

37. 1 We don't need division and the premise this thread is that.

2> Not all of us masturbate to the flag.

If we have to post divisive rather than unifying threads, can we at least keep the criticism to something higher than nit-picking?

[showblue22]

40. It looks like he is more into himself than the well being of the nation.

Optics matter. It's his staff's fault but he hired them.

[TwilightZone]

55. It's not the flag, it's the Bernie signs plastered in the background.

There are flags in both frames. Biden doesn't have his campaign logo plastered all over the background.

It's a statement on a pandemic, not a stump speech or a campaign ad.

[mountain grammy]

44. Well trump dry humps the flag

Is that what you’re going for here? What an absolutely ridiculous post.

[NurseJackie]

73. No, it's not ridiculous. The OP is very clear about the distinction being made.

One of these two men is addressing a problem and speaking to the nation about the problem. The other is reverting to "stump speech" talking points and is flanked with a background of campaign signs... thus making it about himself, rather than the nation and the problem at hand.

This is a very reasonable observation to make and it reveals much about the different styles and different priorities of each man and the philosophies of their campaign staff.

Now I know it's OBVIOUS that NEITHER Biden or Sanders was personally responsible for "set design" and how the flags/props were arranged. Obviously, those things were handled by their staffs. But this does give a clear insight as to the inner workings and mindset (and priorities) of the staff... and it also provides a big clue to the priorities of both candidates too.

After all, each candidate (presumably) had a hand in hiring or approving the hires and each candidate is only going to hire top staff who has similar priorities and values and ethics, right? In addition, over time, those staff members begin to learn what their boss likes/dislikes and what the boss expects/accepts/rejects. So it's very fair for the observer to look at these two "stage sets" ... contrast and compare... and come to some different conclusions that draw stark differences between the two men.

[Cha]

77. Well said, Jackie.. thank you.

how did Biden's excellent address to the Nation on the coronavirus warrant bringing "trump's dry humping the flags" into it?

[Cha]

75. This isn't about the "flags" so

you really don't need to bring "trump's dry humping" into this.

This is about Biden giving a serious address to the Nation on the coronavirus and BS is campaigning with posters.

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[lins the liberal]

45. Senior citizen and female

I and several of my friends like, respect, and admire Bernie. There are more "silvers for Sanders" than many might suspect.

I won't say more because I do not like being ridiculed and insulted. And if you think I am a newbie because of my low post count, I have been here since 2001. If Biden is the nominee, of course, I will vote for him.

[aikoaiko]

46. More flags equals better American.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

48. Biden from minute one...but this is actually ridiculously stupid.

[sarge43]

53. So, Sanders isn't as patriotic as Biden?

Biden is better qualified to be president because he has more flags behind him?

This is the same bull shit that the Repugs trot out. Remember when they went ballistic because President Obama one time didn't wear that meaningless lapel flag.

This is nothing more than flag fetish.

[TwilightZone]

56. It's not the flags, it's the Bernie signs plastered in the background.

This isn't complicated. It's a speech on a pandemic, not a stump speech or a campaign ad.

Perhaps they shouldn't, but optics matter to voters. Someone in his campaign should have figured this out.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. Like I said ridiculous...does not matter one iota what

someone's backdrop is. To make this sound like this trivia has deep meaning is ridiculous

[Cha]

72. No.. that's not it at all. Biden gave an address

to the Nation on the coronavirus and BS was campaigning. Did you see his campaign posters?

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[NellieStarbuck]

49. I'm leaning heavily toward Joe, but

I am really, really disinclined to adopt the right-wing habit of picking my candidate based upon how much flag-festooning they engage in.

[sarge43]

57. Exactly.

We should leave that shabby trick to the Repugs.

[Julian English]

63. I'm tired of candidates who are cult of personality.

BS & DJT seem that way. They and their followers claim both insist they are the one true answer.

EW and JB do not.

BS staying in the race only helps DJT and BS. It does nothing for the US.

[Cha]

76. Well lucky you.. no one is choosing Biden over

the flags.

He gave a calming address to the Nation on the coronavirus and BS was campaigning with his posters in the background.

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[juxtaposed]

51. What has Joe done for organized labor.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. Lived in that world?

[juxtaposed]

60. So not a thing, since he has been in office?

[juxtaposed]

61. What world are u talking about????

[Cha]

64. : "Joe has been very supportive of the labor movement for the last 40 years. He stands for working..

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[Cha]

65. Fire Fighters for Biden

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[Tarheel_Dem]

66. Ding! Ding! Ding!

[TheFarseer]

67. I'm sure

Biden has been photographed in front of a bunch of Biden signs before and Bernie has had his picture taken by an American flag. Frankly, this is the kind of silliness Republicans come up with. I accept Joe has won the primary, but I don’t accept the silly my guy’s a patriot and your guy isn’t stuff.

[Duppers]

68. I don't understand your comment...

"thought Democratic women absolutely adored male politicians who love to plaster their name on everyting."

Your reference escapes me.

Thx in advance for clarifying.

[donheld]

80. Lame. Very very lame.

If that's the best you have you should sit down.

[ProfessorPlum]

81. oh ffs

[Bluepinky]

82. Means nothing. Trump hugs the flag on stage,

that doesn’t mean he loves our country more than someone who doesn’t hug the flag.

[rockfordfile]

83. No