Kos: Bernie wanted to break Biden, the way Warren broke Bloomberg. Not even close to happening.

[highplainsdem]

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Bernie wanted to break Biden, the way Warren broke Bloomberg. Not even close to happening. Biden has been sharp.

[Happyhippychick]

1. Wasn't he a Bernie supporter?

[comradebillyboy]

3. Certainly not in 2016...

[Claustrum]

4. In 2020, Kos supported Warren until she dropped out and then he has been criticizing Bernie after

[still_one]

6. I defer to you. I am probably thinking about 2016

[Claustrum]

11. Here are a few of his posts on daily kos after Warren drop out

Title: Bernie's revolution fizzled on first contact with actual voters. It didn't have to be that way

[link:https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/3/5/1924386/-Bernie-s-revolution-fizzled-on-first-contact-with-actual-voters-It-didn-t-have-to-be-that-way|

Title: Bernie's grievance politics consolidated the left to a 30% losing minority

[link:https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/3/5/1924709/-Bernie-s-grievance-politics-consolidated-the-left-to-a-30-losing-minority|

[still_one]

12. +++

[still_one]

2. and this is coming from the DailyKos which favors Sanders

[Turin_C3PO]

5. I don't know about that.

When Warren was in the race, it seemed most supported her. Now, to me, it seems evenly divided between Sanders and Biden supporters. Or maybe you’re right and I’m reading the wrong threads.

[Cha]

7. How about the Opposite of what's

Happening?

Mahalo, hpd & Kos!

[sop]

8. If Sanders was counting on Biden appearing weak and confused this evening, he miscalculated.

Biden looks confident, energized and completely in control.

[brush]

9. Many seem to have forgotten how Joe dismantled Ryan in the 2012 VP debate. I never...

doubted he would handle himself well. He bested Sanders and will destroy trump 1-on-1.

[oasis]

10. Bernie singing his same ol' tune. No surprise there. nt

[Cha]

13. the one that didn't work.

[thesquanderer]

14. I disagree with the premise. I don't think he wanted to do to Biden what Warren did to Bloomberg.

Because Sanders knows that Biden is very likely to be the nominee, and he smartly doesn't want to totally kneecap our nominee as Warren did to Bloomberg. What he mostly wants is to push his agenda. Making it easier for Trump to win in November is NOT something Sanders wants to do.

[Jedi Guy]

15. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders personally.

I think hanging in the race when it's virtually certain he won't win isn't the smartest move. It reeks of desperation and ego more than principle, from where I'm standing. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

But despite my personal dislike of him, I agree. I don't think he's deliberately trying to cripple Biden for the general election. I don't think he's spitefully doing this to help Trump. He probably is hoping to drag Biden to the left and have a shot at getting some of his ideas injected into the platform.

The issue is that while he may not intend to help Trump, he's doing so regardless. Any attempt to damage Biden in the primary is just writing ad copy for the Trump campaign in the general. Bernie's surrogates are out there pushing the "cognitive decline" narrative as hard as they can, and you can get Trump will gleefully latch onto that.

I can understand hanging in the race until Biden hits the magic number. Biden's campaign was written off as hopeless mere weeks ago, and now here we are. But the moment Biden hits the magic number, Bernie needs to bow out. If he doesn't, he's helping Trump, good intentions be damned.

[showblue22]

17. Ummm.. He's mathematically eliminated

Yet running very negative ads.

[Jedi Guy]

18. Are you certain that's true? That he's mathematically eliminated, I mean?

Of a total 3,979 delegates, 1,770 have been allocated thus far, leaving 2,209 remaining. Bernie's down by 154 delegates right now, and the momentum is all going Biden's way. Polls indicate that future primaries are likely to be a bloodbath for Bernie, but polls aren't perfect predictors of how things will go. And not all that long ago, Bernie had the momentum. So no, I don't think Bernie is mathematically eliminated, not yet.

As a practical matter, Bernie's almost certainly done. Like I said, I can respect hanging in until Biden hits the magic number. Hanging in a moment longer than that, though, is just being foolishly stubborn. Do I think what Bernie's doing is great? No. Do I think he's deliberately helping Trump out of spite? Also no.

[showblue22]

16. I would not give him the benefit of doubt