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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:15 AM Mar 2020

To me, this is the reason why Bernie keeps running but may stop

When asked how the candidates are protecting themselves from covid, this what he said:

Bernie: I love doing rallies and we bring many thousands of people out to our rallies. I enjoy it very much.

I think without the energy of the crowd, he just isn't as motivated. I'm not sure he wants to run, I think he just loves to campaign. If governing was so important to him, he wouldn't have such a dismal voting record. It's dismal because he is always campaigning!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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To me, this is the reason why Bernie keeps running but may stop (Original Post) Happyhippychick Mar 2020 OP
That's a bit too much like you-know-who for my comfort level. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
Exactly my thought Rebl2 Mar 2020 #16
I concur. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #45
I'm going with Biden has not got the delegate counts yet mikeysnot Mar 2020 #2
All the other candidates could have made that argument but they didn't. honest.abe Mar 2020 #8
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #11
All the other candidates didn't the delegate count that Bernie has mikeysnot Mar 2020 #12
Doesnt matter. Losing by 1000 or by 100 its still hopeless. honest.abe Mar 2020 #19
And you know this how? mikeysnot Mar 2020 #22
Common sense.. honest.abe Mar 2020 #23
Here's your chance to make your case! Show us where sanders is going to win and win big Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #36
a 40 year track record nt msongs Mar 2020 #37
Well, Bernie will get clobbered tomorrow. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #43
Except That Bernie Wants To Cancel Elections... TomCADem Mar 2020 #20
Sanders has lost...he should get out and stop wasting time, wasting money and risking people's lives Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #39
The comparison to you know who is frightening. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #3
That was my first reaction as well PatSeg Mar 2020 #21
sander's ego is similar to the fool in the whitehouse. Its always about his soapbox beachbumbob Mar 2020 #4
Sanders ego? mikeysnot Mar 2020 #13
I would be to, as it is what it is and can't be defended. beachbumbob Mar 2020 #17
Me, two! hangaleft Mar 2020 #44
Welcome to DU, hangaleft! I like your moniker. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #46
Thank you, smartypants! hangaleft Mar 2020 #47
Incredible mikeysnot Mar 2020 #48
I caught that too. He loves the adoration, Dream Girl Mar 2020 #5
He's missed over 300 Senate votes since June of last year. George II Mar 2020 #6
How many of those weren't confirming Federalist Society judges? House of Roberts Mar 2020 #14
At Least One of Them Was Going MIA On Russian Sanctions in 2018 TomCADem Mar 2020 #18
He still collected his $15,000 / month salary. He was on the Senate floor ONE WEEK of the last 37. George II Mar 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #7
I guess its a big ego trip to have thousands of adoring fans cheering at his every statement. honest.abe Mar 2020 #9
Expect a victory tour, and the first reelection campaign rally shortly after inauguration dalton99a Mar 2020 #10
At the debate his "whoop-whoop" applause lines from his worn out stump speech... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #15
Bernie's running to show Americans there's an alternative way of thinking jalan48 Mar 2020 #24
Perhaps, but the majority even of Democrats aren't buying it. MineralMan Mar 2020 #26
That's OK. I think Americans are in for a big surprise after the 2020 election. There's no going jalan48 Mar 2020 #28
Well, someone will be in for a big surprise, no doubt. MineralMan Mar 2020 #31
Yes-it will all be normal again. No worries. Now go back to sleep. jalan48 Mar 2020 #32
Yeah, we should have let the banks go bankrupt because that would have helped the people Hav Mar 2020 #27
If you believe our current system of profit driven unlimited growth is the answer to the jalan48 Mar 2020 #30
Nah, I'm with you on the illusion of unlimited growth Hav Mar 2020 #34
I don't disagree but long term I don't see the bailouts working. It's a short term fix to a bigger jalan48 Mar 2020 #35
Such ideas have no practical use...now is not the time to solve income Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #42
One runs and wins or loses...he could stand on a soap box and harangue people about his Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #40
Seeking confirmation is what he's doing. MineralMan Mar 2020 #25
I think the lack of adulating fans cheering for him last night was devastating to him Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #29
Those cheering crowds are some strong juju.. ehrnst Mar 2020 #38
I would never buy his book...I would never take it out of the library...I would avert my eyes...I Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #41
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,520 posts)
1. That's a bit too much like you-know-who for my comfort level.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:17 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
2. I'm going with Biden has not got the delegate counts yet
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:18 AM
Mar 2020

and there is still more states to vote...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,600 posts)
8. All the other candidates could have made that argument but they didn't.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

Instead they dropped out realizing that Biden is clearly going to win the nomination and it would be pointless and in fact damaging to the party to continue campaigning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to honest.abe (Reply #8)

 

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
12. All the other candidates didn't the delegate count that Bernie has
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:30 AM
Mar 2020

you do realize that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,600 posts)
19. Doesnt matter. Losing by 1000 or by 100 its still hopeless.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

Once its clear a particular candidate is going to win, the other candidates drop out. That's how its done when the main priority is supporting the party and defeating the other party's nominee. Apparently that is not Sanders priority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
22. And you know this how?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020

....?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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honest.abe

(8,600 posts)
23. Common sense..
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

and a bit of basic math knowledge.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)
36. Here's your chance to make your case! Show us where sanders is going to win and win big
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:25 PM
Mar 2020

To catch Biden in delegate count

Please...I’m asking

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,335 posts)
37. a 40 year track record nt
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,188 posts)
43. Well, Bernie will get clobbered tomorrow.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:14 AM
Mar 2020

If he keeps on after that, it’s pure selfish vanity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
20. Except That Bernie Wants To Cancel Elections...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:37 AM
Mar 2020

...and just go into June with a contested convention, because he will know he will get creamed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
39. Sanders has lost...he should get out and stop wasting time, wasting money and risking people's lives
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:43 AM
Mar 2020

He needs to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. The comparison to you know who is frightening.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:18 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
21. That was my first reaction as well
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. sander's ego is similar to the fool in the whitehouse. Its always about his soapbox
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
13. Sanders ego?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:31 AM
Mar 2020

I'm so sick of this .....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
17. I would be to, as it is what it is and can't be defended.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

always been his ego. He never misses his soapbox opportunity EVER

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

littlemissmartypants

(22,513 posts)
46. Welcome to DU, hangaleft! I like your moniker. nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:39 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
48. Incredible
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

his ego, really.

Man what people believe....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
5. I caught that too. He loves the adoration,
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. He's missed over 300 Senate votes since June of last year.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

House of Roberts

(5,154 posts)
14. How many of those weren't confirming Federalist Society judges?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

Not many, I bet. With McConnell in charge, nothing comes up worth showing up for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
18. At Least One of Them Was Going MIA On Russian Sanctions in 2018
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

The close vote to prevent Trump from lifting sanctions on certain Russian oligarchs. Bernie is one of the few Senators to ditch that vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. He still collected his $15,000 / month salary. He was on the Senate floor ONE WEEK of the last 37.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Happyhippychick (Original post)

 

honest.abe

(8,600 posts)
9. I guess its a big ego trip to have thousands of adoring fans cheering at his every statement.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020

Hopefully he comes to his senses and shuts it down before he does anymore damage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,371 posts)
10. Expect a victory tour, and the first reelection campaign rally shortly after inauguration
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:27 AM
Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. At the debate his "whoop-whoop" applause lines from his worn out stump speech...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

At the debate his "whoop-whoop" applause lines from his worn out stump speech ended up falling flat without a studio audience there to prop him up.

If governing was so important to him, he wouldn't have such a dismal voting record.
In fact, the often repeated line that "Bernie votes with the Democrats 99.9% of the time" is a complete myth. It's closer to 80% if you round-up.

And don't get me started on his lack of legislative accomplishments. He'd probably have been able to do more and get more cooperation from his colleagues if he wasn't always lying and attacking the Democratic party by calling us "corrupt" and "feeble" and "ideologically bankrupt". That's no way to win friends and build coalitions.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
24. Bernie's running to show Americans there's an alternative way of thinking
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:45 AM
Mar 2020

about dealing with our failing corporate state, other than propping it up with taxpayer dollars. You know, too big to fail and all that. Corporatists of both parties, post corona virus crisis, will be telling Americans if we just pump enough money into our economy we can get back to the "normal" days of yore. Sorry, that horse has left the barn, time to start thinking outside the box.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
26. Perhaps, but the majority even of Democrats aren't buying it.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:48 AM
Mar 2020

That's why Bernie lost in 2016 and why he's losing in 2020. His appeal has a ceiling. He has reached that ceiling, and it's impenetrable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
28. That's OK. I think Americans are in for a big surprise after the 2020 election. There's no going
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

back to a mythical normal or make America great again no matter how comforting the words may make us feel today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
31. Well, someone will be in for a big surprise, no doubt.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020

Check your mirror.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
32. Yes-it will all be normal again. No worries. Now go back to sleep.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
27. Yeah, we should have let the banks go bankrupt because that would have helped the people
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

and we should now not help the economy get back up on its feet because revolution! Let's think outside the box, we'll somehow come up with something revolutionary while the world burns.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
30. If you believe our current system of profit driven unlimited growth is the answer to the
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:00 PM
Mar 2020

emerging crises we are facing go with it, and good luck.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
34. Nah, I'm with you on the illusion of unlimited growth
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:14 PM
Mar 2020

at the cost of everything else, including the future of the planet.
But I believe sometimes measures are necessary to bail out those who would show no solidarity to you or me because it affects not just them but all of us. A bailout won't just be for the giants like Amazon but also all those who provide the essentials and also the jobs. I already see it with my mother company who is discussing switching to part time because they already feel the effects of more business customers having problems to pay their bills.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
35. I don't disagree but long term I don't see the bailouts working. It's a short term fix to a bigger
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

problem that needs to be dealt with. If we think the coronavirus crisis is bad what's in store for our kids and grandkids when the disastrous effects of climate change happen to them?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
42. Such ideas have no practical use...now is not the time to solve income
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:53 AM
Mar 2020

inequality but the time to save lives...and this is why Sanders should not be our nominee...he can't tell the difference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
40. One runs and wins or loses...he could stand on a soap box and harangue people about his
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

revolution without screwing up an election to take down the worst president of anyone's lifetime. All I want from Sanders is for him to concede and go away...he can have a podcast or something like his hero Joe Rogan.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
25. Seeking confirmation is what he's doing.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:47 AM
Mar 2020

Those rallies of adorning supporters give him that, so of course he loves them.

We all like it when our beliefs and ideas get acclamation from a crowd. That's only human. However, when you continue doing things that lead to nowhere, just to obtain affirmation, you move into a different sphere, really.

All politicians have big egos. It's a requirement for the job, really. Some, however, are politicians primarily to get strokes from the crowd. That's dangerous to society, as we've seen from Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
29. I think the lack of adulating fans cheering for him last night was devastating to him
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

Not very admirable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. Those cheering crowds are some strong juju..
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:54 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe there is the perception that they will buy his books, even if they don't vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
41. I would never buy his book...I would never take it out of the library...I would avert my eyes...I
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:50 AM
Mar 2020

read cereal boxes if I have nothing else to read...I would read a damn cereal box before his book.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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