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we can do it

(12,166 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:11 AM Mar 2020

BS is wasting as much time thinking about his campaign as drump did on COVID19.

Delays that put us in more danger than necessary. Enough ego driven destruction FFS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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BS is wasting as much time thinking about his campaign as drump did on COVID19. (Original Post) we can do it Mar 2020 OP
KR!! TY! Cha Mar 2020 #1
I thought the Bern was singlehandedly solving the Trump Virus crisis? DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #2
This is all a campaign stunt. He doesn't have the authority. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #3
Why isn't he in DC doing his job? He's supposed to be so effective. we can do it Mar 2020 #4
Missed a key 47-47 procedural vote empedocles Mar 2020 #5
I understand the frustration, but I've got to say, Bernie's risk factors are extreme, given hlthe2b Mar 2020 #6
Durbin True Blue American Mar 2020 #8
One more reason he needs to drop out now. we can do it Mar 2020 #11
There are many older and sicker people than Sanders...he could do his job if wanted to. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #20
Bullshit. I'm not defending Bernie, but I am defending Public Health-CDC restrictions hlthe2b Mar 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #7
You said it! True Blue American Mar 2020 #10
He SHOULD be scared and he should be home. No, he's not going to be President and hlthe2b Mar 2020 #12
If Sanders were to withdraw now, Obama could endorse Biden TODAY and we could... George II Mar 2020 #17
I don't deny that, but I do not support the reckless suggestions made by at least one earlier-- hlthe2b Mar 2020 #18
What about the other Senators...Some who have cancer...Feinstein is older than Sanders... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #21
This isn't about Sanders, it is about stopping spread. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #23
He can show up and protect himself easily NCProgressive Mar 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #15
No! I, my sister and my colleagues need that PPE--as do the HCWs in Vermont. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #19
Just move ahead without Sanders! This is not 2016. delisen Mar 2020 #13
Agree..... HOWEVER - Bernie needs to concede NOW so his supporters have time ..... groundloop Mar 2020 #16
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. I thought the Bern was singlehandedly solving the Trump Virus crisis?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:13 AM
Mar 2020

Wasn't that why he was testy with CNN's Manu Raju, disappeared to Vermont, and failed to vote in the Senate yesterday?

Perhaps he was just feeling Berned-out? I know I am!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. This is all a campaign stunt. He doesn't have the authority.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:33 AM
Mar 2020

This is all a campaign stunt. He doesn't have the authority. I guess I'd compare it to fantasy role-playing... dungeons and dragons, with Bernie playing the role of "game master" with a handful of multi sided dice.

Meanwhile, in the real world... Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and others have spent the weekend trying to hammer out a deal with McCarthy and McConnell. Instead of being in DC, he's up in Vermont trying concoct his OWN deal. It's important to remember that he's not our party's Minority Leader. He has no position of authority to come up with such a deal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to we can do it (Original post)

 

we can do it

(12,166 posts)
4. Why isn't he in DC doing his job? He's supposed to be so effective.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:17 AM
Mar 2020

The only thing he seems to be effective at is throwing elections to drump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. Missed a key 47-47 procedural vote
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:20 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
6. I understand the frustration, but I've got to say, Bernie's risk factors are extreme, given
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:25 AM
Mar 2020

his recent heart attack and undoubtedly residual poor ventricular function. Anyone else, we'd demand he stay at home. Now, obviously, that does bring to question how physically fit he is for the Presidency, but for his own well-being, I understand.

Frustration aside, I don't want harm to come to him period and especially while he still votes with Democrats in the Senate. Just sayin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
8. Durbin
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:33 AM
Mar 2020

Is asking for remote voting just during the crisis.

Mitch had refused because it would affect the reputation of the Senate. As if he single handedly has not done that for 12 years now. Neither the Senate or Supreme Court has any reputation left starting with the Bush/ Gore decision, unlimited money in Politics. They are a joke.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

we can do it

(12,166 posts)
11. One more reason he needs to drop out now.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:37 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
20. There are many older and sicker people than Sanders...he could do his job if wanted to.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
22. Bullshit. I'm not defending Bernie, but I am defending Public Health-CDC restrictions
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
Mar 2020

that are there for a reason. It is disgraceful that Congress has not enacted distance voting procedures.

I most certainly do NOT support the reckless suggestions made by at least one earlier--
that he should just "suit up" in PPE and be there. No, I, my sister and my colleagues need that PPE--as do the HCWs in Vermont. Next week when I return full time I will throttle anybody saying such things. There are now 8 doctors and three ER nurses at Emory-associated hospitals in the Atlanta area confirmed and hospitalized with COVID-19 (one on a ventilator) while my ER nurse sister and other colleagues continue to reuse PPE. As am I. I will gladly tell anyone who is suggesting diverting MORE to those whose risks make it absolutely untenable to be out, period--PPE or no, to go straight to hell.

There are CDC guidelines for a reason. I don't support Sanders, but neither do I want him to put himself or others at risk.

There should be emergency legislation passed to allow COngress a short term secure means of voting and participating offsite

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

 

hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
12. He SHOULD be scared and he should be home. No, he's not going to be President and
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:43 AM
Mar 2020

he is avoiding the inevitable. But, again, there is no one with BS' health risk factors that I would not demand stay home. Yes, that says a lot about his unfitness to continue his campaign. But, I don't want him putting his life at risk to try to prove otherwise.

And, I want Biden to take every precaution he can, as frustrated as I am that his message is getting buried.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. If Sanders were to withdraw now, Obama could endorse Biden TODAY and we could...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:12 AM - Edit history (1)

get on to the business of defeating trump.

Nancy Pelosi could endorse Biden.

Chuck Schumer could endorse Biden.

The DNC could begin fundraising for Biden.

All these things could happen TODAY.

Instead they're waiting while Sanders sulks in Vermont, "assessing".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
18. I don't deny that, but I do not support the reckless suggestions made by at least one earlier--
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:53 AM
Mar 2020

that he should just "suit up" in PPE and be there. No, I, my sister and my colleagues need that PPE--as do the HCWs in Vermont. Next week when I return full time I will throttle anybody saying such things.

There are CDC guidelines for a reason. I don't support Sanders, but neither do I want him to put himself or others at risk.

There should be emergency legislation passed to allow COngress a short term secure means of voting and participating offsite

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
21. What about the other Senators...Some who have cancer...Feinstein is older than Sanders...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry, I have nothing left for Sanders...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
23. This isn't about Sanders, it is about stopping spread.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020

I do not support the reckless suggestions made by at least one earlier--
that he should just "suit up" in PPE and be there. No, I, my sister and my colleagues need that PPE--as do the HCWs in Vermont. Next week when I return full time I will throttle anybody saying such things. There are now 8 doctors and three ER nurses at Emory-associated hospitals in the Atlanta area confirmed and hospitalized with COVID-19 (one on a ventilator) while my ER nurse sister and other colleagues continue to reuse PPE. As am I. I will gladly tell anyone who is suggesting diverting MORE to those whose risks make it absolutely untenable to be out, period--PPE or no, to go straight to hell.

There are CDC guidelines for a reason. I don't support Sanders, but neither do I want him to put himself or others at risk.


There should be emergency legislation passed to allow COngress a short term secure means of voting and participating offsite

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
14. He can show up and protect himself easily
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:06 AM
Mar 2020

He can show up in a Biosafety Tyvek coveralls over his regular suit with mask, eyeglasses and gloves. Then at his desk, he can remove the gear and start working. Senate benches are already 6' apart. Then, while leaving, he can get dressed in the gear again and depart to his mansion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
19. No! I, my sister and my colleagues need that PPE--as do the HCWs in Vermont.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020

Next week when I return full time I will throttle anybody saying such things. There are now 8 doctors and three ER nurses at Emory-associated hospitals in the Atlanta area confirmed and hospitalized with COVID-19 (one on a ventilator) while my ER nurse sister and other colleagues continue to reuse PPE. As am I. I will gladly tell anyone who is suggesting diverting MORE to those whose risks make it absolutely untenable to be out, period--PPE or no, to go straight to hell.


There are CDC guidelines for a reason. I don't support Sanders, but neither do I want him to put himself or others at risk.

There should be emergency legislation passed to allow COngress a short term secure means of voting and participating offsite

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,042 posts)
13. Just move ahead without Sanders! This is not 2016.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:43 AM
Mar 2020

We are in an entirely new environment. We may not even have an in-person convention. Biden can go ahead now and show leadership as can supporters.

If people are unable to seize this moment it bodes poorly for November

The fact is we have what we need to advance now so let' s focus on that now and not Sander

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

groundloop

(11,510 posts)
16. Agree..... HOWEVER - Bernie needs to concede NOW so his supporters have time .....
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020

to decompress and think about the consequences of not voting. He certainly shouldn't try to hold the Democratic Party hostage in an attempt to influence the platform as he did 4 years ago.

Furthermore, if the goal is to convince Biden that he should include more progressive agenda in his campaign and administration I believe Elizabeth Warren is better equipped to do that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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