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What a Democratic team player! (Original Post) George II Mar 2020 OP
I think AOC may want the whole House to vote as well n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #1
I don't think AOC's desires are a factor in Pelosi's comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #9
I hope not n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #11
I think she's using this as a threat against Republics ChiTownDenny Mar 2020 #15
Can he do that from Vermont? left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
Political showmanship and self-promotion that, in the end, accomplishes nothing. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #3
I'm the least likely fan of Bernie but ChiTownDenny Mar 2020 #19
Except he's not doing that. It's all just for show. Just like Rand Paul's antics. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #22
Then Why Didn't He Vote? Me. Mar 2020 #26
I don't think there's been a vote yet. ChiTownDenny Mar 2020 #32
There Was A Process Vote Me. Mar 2020 #44
Why wasn't he involved with the process? mcar Mar 2020 #4
He was doing an online "round table" on the virus with three non-medical Reps and a rock band. George II Mar 2020 #8
Oh, right, his coronavirus roundtable mcar Mar 2020 #10
Was it the band "The Strokes" again? Not a good band name for someone with health problems. nt zackymilly Mar 2020 #12
In Fact, She Was A Major Contributor Me. Mar 2020 #29
Yes, Schumer was quite complimentary. mcar Mar 2020 #31
Is he back in Washington? comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #5
Where's Waldo? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #13
No words NCProgressive Mar 2020 #6
More on this: "This is not the bill I would have written"? It's a bill he couldn't have written... George II Mar 2020 #7
Not a Sanders fan in any respect, but I'm not sure this is bad. Appears some Hoyt Mar 2020 #14
That's what I read, too. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #16
Granted I am a Sanders supporter, but I cannot fathom anyone seriously describing this as AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #17
It's grandstanding because... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #23
Well, by all means, roll out the welcome mat then. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #24
Why didn't Sanders show up to help write the bill. Blue_true Mar 2020 #33
That doesn't stop republicans from injecting bullshit into the bill. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #36
Sanders could have been in Washington fighting for what he wanted. Blue_true Mar 2020 #38
The correct thing to do would've been to have kept his ass in Washington when it was being debated. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #34
It's almost like we're not watching the same game/sport play out. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #37
Possibly, but the majority of people live and operate in a world Blue_true Mar 2020 #40
Some of us are listening to someone's words, whereas others of us are watching their actions. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #43
Representing the interest of working Americans and acting as a check on corporate bailouts. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #18
It's a self-created issue. The republican leadership won't let their Senators do that, so... George II Mar 2020 #20
Once Again Ruining Things For Everyone Else Me. Mar 2020 #27
The Senate should pass this package without delay. It includes: William769 Mar 2020 #21
"Democrats stayed at the table..." dchill Mar 2020 #28
... William769 Mar 2020 #30
It tells me that if he WERE there he would vote bluestarone Mar 2020 #25
He is doing what he has almost always done. Blue_true Mar 2020 #35
The most hated man in America. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #39
Wellllll, I respectfully disagree. Maybe second behind trump. George II Mar 2020 #41
Of course you're right... BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #42
George ya dun got me started again. I was blissfully ignoorant BootinUp Mar 2020 #45
Turns out this was all for headlines. George II Mar 2020 #46
 

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,795 posts)
1. I think AOC may want the whole House to vote as well n/t
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
9. I don't think AOC's desires are a factor in Pelosi's
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

decisions.

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ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
15. I think she's using this as a threat against Republics
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

if there isn't enough support for the legislation.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. Can he do that from Vermont?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
3. Political showmanship and self-promotion that, in the end, accomplishes nothing.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

He's basically becoming the left's Rand Paul.

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ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
19. I'm the least likely fan of Bernie but
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:27 PM
Mar 2020

I appreciate that he's playing hardball with the Republicans' threat to weaken the bill.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
22. Except he's not doing that. It's all just for show. Just like Rand Paul's antics.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. Then Why Didn't He Vote?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020
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ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
32. I don't think there's been a vote yet.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:15 PM
Mar 2020

I think they were hoping to vote this evening.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
44. There Was A Process Vote
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

If he wants a say why doesn't he show up

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mcar

(42,278 posts)
4. Why wasn't he involved with the process?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:14 PM
Mar 2020

Warren was.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. He was doing an online "round table" on the virus with three non-medical Reps and a rock band.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,278 posts)
10. Oh, right, his coronavirus roundtable
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

with musical guests - but no medical professionals.

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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
12. Was it the band "The Strokes" again? Not a good band name for someone with health problems. nt
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
29. In Fact, She Was A Major Contributor
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020

according to Schumer

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mcar

(42,278 posts)
31. Yes, Schumer was quite complimentary.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
6. No words
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020

Opportunistic grandstanding when people's livelihoods are at stake and there is no time to lose.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. More on this: "This is not the bill I would have written"? It's a bill he couldn't have written...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020

It was written over the weekend and changes negotiated in late-hour sessions.


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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Not a Sanders fan in any respect, but I'm not sure this is bad. Appears some
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020

GOPers are trying to hold up stimulus package over something minor. Sanders is saying, do it and I’ll screw you.

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Turin_C3PO

(13,909 posts)
16. That's what I read, too.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

Sounds like the GOP is more the villain here than Sanders.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. Granted I am a Sanders supporter, but I cannot fathom anyone seriously describing this as
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

grandstanding.

If this were pre-South Carolina Primary, and Biden did the same, I wouldn't call it grandstanding. This is actually really important. The Republicans are trying to steal, yet again, from the working class while enriching corporations. This should not come as a shock.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
23. It's grandstanding because...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:41 PM
Mar 2020

...he, as a single senator, can't do a damn thing. If these last couple of weeks are anything to go by, "putting a hold" on a bill literally delays the actual vote by hours. Just a few hours -- maybe one actual legislative day in Senate time.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
24. Well, by all means, roll out the welcome mat then.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:54 PM
Mar 2020

I get that you might not like Sanders right now, but that was absolutely the correct thing to do.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. Why didn't Sanders show up to help write the bill.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:24 PM
Mar 2020

It is way too easy to throw turds from the grandstand. Senator Sanders could have been in Washington going eyeball to eyeball with republican negotiators, instead he stayed in Vermont the whole time.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
36. That doesn't stop republicans from injecting bullshit into the bill.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:49 PM
Mar 2020

The point where Sanders is objecting, is where you start to work out those issues.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. Sanders could have been in Washington fighting for what he wanted.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:25 PM
Mar 2020

Instead

"Other democratic Senators fought for a good bill while Senator Sanders watched"

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
34. The correct thing to do would've been to have kept his ass in Washington when it was being debated.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020

And now, if there are any hiccups, work within the Democratic caucus to ensure that those issues are appropriately resolved rather than flying in after most of the hard work is done and then proclaim that he, alone, is doing something about it. Bullshit. It's grandstanding, plain and simple. He alone can't do a goddamn thing about it. If he wants something done about it, he should get his ass off Twitter, get his ass off the internet, and consult with his Senate colleagues. Of course, if he were to do that, he'd probably find out that they were already working to address the problem(s) while he was out self-promoting.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
37. It's almost like we're not watching the same game/sport play out.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Possibly, but the majority of people live and operate in a world
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020

where a person has to put in sweat for a desired result.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
43. Some of us are listening to someone's words, whereas others of us are watching their actions.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:57 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
18. Representing the interest of working Americans and acting as a check on corporate bailouts.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:26 PM
Mar 2020

That's what Sanders wants and I think he'll get it too. Good for him.

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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. It's a self-created issue. The republican leadership won't let their Senators do that, so...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:30 PM
Mar 2020

...it moot, and as noted here grandstanding and grasping for headlines.

Watch what Schumer said this morning about the bill. I suspect he knows more about what's going on than Sanders.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Once Again Ruining Things For Everyone Else
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

so amoral

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William769

(55,144 posts)
21. The Senate should pass this package without delay. It includes:
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:36 PM
Mar 2020
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dchill

(38,442 posts)
28. "Democrats stayed at the table..."
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020

There's your sign!

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bluestarone

(16,859 posts)
25. It tells me that if he WERE there he would vote
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020

NO!

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. He is doing what he has almost always done.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:32 PM
Mar 2020

Watch while the difficult job of crafting legistlation that can pass is done. Criticize the legistlation as being inadequate and make threats. If the legistlation is very popular he votes for it, but he laid down his marker in case any part of it goes wrong, he can criticize democrats who helped write it.

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
39. The most hated man in America.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

Keep it up Bernie, you’re on a roll.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Wellllll, I respectfully disagree. Maybe second behind trump.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
42. Of course you're right...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:37 PM
Mar 2020

But if he uses an archaic Senatorial point of privilege to stop a vote on the financial package before congress - all those hard workin’ folks waiting to find out if they will have a check to keep roof over their head and food on the table may call it a dead heat.

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BootinUp

(47,083 posts)
45. George ya dun got me started again. I was blissfully ignoorant
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020

b4 your thread title hooked me in.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
46. Turns out this was all for headlines.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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